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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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nosk
United States21 Posts
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Womwomwom
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FinalForm
United States450 Posts
I'm using Afterburner and I have a simple question. How do you know when you've overclocked enough? What temp ranges are you supposed to back off at. Am I supposed to leave the fan at auto or am I supposed to adjust that too? Do I just run Unigen Heaven in the background and watch as the temps average somewhere, then keep overclocking till I start to enter the borderline unsafe zone? Of course I'm not going to do anything rash until my research is complete. The GPU is in a Asus P8P67-M PRO. The case is a LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62. I am very noob. Thank you! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
You've overclocked enough when you're happy with it. Not much else to say besides that =\ Best to stay under 80c and set the fans manually. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
I have dual monitor setup (1920x1080 twice) but I run the game on only one monitor. Case: Corsair Graphite Series 600T -- $130 DVD Drive: Samsung SH-S223C 22X DVD -- $16 Hard drive: Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 2TB SATA3 -- $78 SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 Extended Sandforce 120GB -- $185 Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Pro ATX P67 -- $181 CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked --$215 Cooler: Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H70 --$80 GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 -$330 (after $20 mir) RAM: G.SKILL F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL Ripjaws 8GB - $77 PSU: Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 80PLUS Gold Power Supply -$170 Total: $1552 I'm not sure about the hard drive (I've never had a Hitachi) as for the Vertex 2, I may get a Vertex 3 if it gets released soon enough. The CPU will be overclocked pretty high, hence the cooler. Also I might end up using SLI with the GPU if I ever need to. If you have any suggestions, let me know. Thanks. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Not sure where you're buying from or what you're paying but Western DIgital Caviar Green 2TB is less expensive if you are buying from any retailer that pricematches. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On April 03 2011 03:57 skyR wrote: @Djzapz Not sure where you're buying from or what you're paying but Western DIgital Caviar Green 2TB is less expensive if you are buying from any retailer that pricematches. I should check some reviews - those are both pretty slow hard drives... Since the SSD is only 120GB I'll have to put some games on the HD and I don't know if I want them on a slow hard drive. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
What's your idea of high CPU overclocks? Unless it's like 4.7 GHz or higher, I think you'd be okay on a mid-end air cooler. Are you going to need or want an extra 200 MHz overclock to play the latest games? 850W is a little overkill for SLI GTX 570. As long as you're not overclocking the GPUs too and then planning on running them on max load for extended amounts of time (read: games don't max out graphics cards, so you'd be fine gaming). you can go as low as a good 650W unit. 750W is more recommended. Good units for that wattage include XFX Core Pro, Corsair TX V2, Antec TruePower New, SilverStone Strider Plus (or Gold), NZXT Hale90, XFX Black Edition, Corsair HX, Seasonic X, Corsair AX. That's very roughly in increasing quality and price, going from great to amazing. There are many others not listed. Crucial RealSSD C300, Intel 320, Samsung 470, etc. should be good alternatives to the Vertex 2 if they're about the same price. These are all fairly similar in performance. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On April 03 2011 04:09 skyR wrote: If it's going to be your secondary drive for your programs and games, maybe you should consider a Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB for $44 or 1TB for $80 instead? Well, I'll also load up that thing with a bunch of movies and TV shows, I'll be needing the 2TB. What's your idea of high CPU overclocks? Unless it's like 4.7 GHz or higher, I think you'd be okay on a mid-end air cooler. Are you going to need or want an extra 200 MHz overclock to play the latest games? Yeah I intend to OC pretty high so I can definitely use that cooler. I allow myself to be slightly irrational on that one. =P 850W is a little overkill for SLI GTX 570. I'll research that and might pick up a 750W. I really value efficient PSUs too... Power bills have been kicking me in the face. Crucial RealSSD C300, Intel 320, Samsung 470, etc. should be good alternatives to the Vertex 2 if they're about the same price. These are all fairly similar in performance. Ok, yeah the Vertex 2 is very cheap at NCIX right now but I looked at the C300 mostly. If the sale runs out before I make a purchase maybe I'll pick up something else. Thanks for the heads up! If anybody still has something to add, feel free :D | ||
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dandan23
Malaysia101 Posts
motherboard : asus p67 sabertooth B3 cooler for cpu : corsair h70 / thermalright silver arrow (3x 140mm fans with 120mm mounting) -not sure which cooler is better.. which would u recommend? ram : 2x 4gb corsair p1333 gaming VGA : asus gtx 560 TOP x 2 (SLI) SDD : 2 x ocz vertex 3 120 GB Drive : LO Blu-ray rom Sound card : Asus xonar dx7.1 Case : Silverstone Raven 03 (planning on adding 7 x 120 mm ap121) or will noctua 120mm be better? power supply : Corsair AX Gold series 1200 W Software : ms win 7 home premium <OEM> 64 bit Was wondering is this comp good enough for maybe 3 years running at 1920x 1080p in max settings for all games? those computer parts like the Ram,Cooler,Case,Sound Card , power supply and SDD i want to know if this parts will still be good during my next upgrade in the next 3 years ? or will it be useless as computer parts are always updating.. reason why im trying to get really high end for those parts hoping i might make full use of it now and the next upgrade.. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
You could step down to the Corsair AX750 for $150 than you could put the $40 you saved into a 500gb Western Digital Black or equivalent drive and get a Caviar Green 2TB for storage. @dandan23 A Corsair AX850 or equivalent 850w power supply is more than capable of SLI and it'll last you for your next couple upgrades. You'll only need 1200W if you ever plan on doing quad SLI at some point in time. Very few games utilize more than 2 cores so there's no need to go with a 2600k over a 2500k for gaming purposes. Three years ago, a lot of people went with a Q6600 over a E6600 because they thought games would utilize quad cores in the future. Three years have passed and most games still only utilize 2 cores and the people with Q6600s are upgrading to Sandybridge or waiting for Bulldozer / Ivybridge. You'll be upgrading to a $200 native octo core that will blow the 2600k away in 3 years. Best to get a single flagship card such as the GTX 580 or 6970 and add another one in sometime in the future or upgrade to a newer flagship card. It's better to get SLI GTX 580 instead of RAID 0 Vertex 3 120gb... I don't think you know how expensive Vertex 3s are going to be. The 120GB Vertex 3s will probably retail for close to $350. Silverarrow is better. The only components that are really futureproof is the case and powersupply. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On April 03 2011 04:24 Djzapz wrote: I'll research that and might pick up a 750W. I really value efficient PSUs too... Power bills have been kicking me in the face. Well, you're probably looking at something like 600W full load for the whole system at stock with SLI GTX 570 and an i5-2500k. Keep in mind that average power consumption in games is a lot lower than that, particularly with SLI configurations, and that peak power consumption in games is usually lower than in synthetic benchmarks. Also, high-end power supplies tend to be rated for continuous operation at 50C at full load and can usually do a little bit more (not a recommended scenario, but it's within their capabilities). So I wouldn't worry about 750W, even with some good overclocks. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300_10.html#sect0 http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce-gtx-570_4.html#sect0 High-end 80+ Silver unit; Seasonic S12D 750W ($100): http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=58216&promoid=1306 Pretty much same internals as above but modular; XFX Black Edition 750W ($135 before $20 rebate): http://ncix.com/products/?sku=48568 Fully modular, 80+ Gold, 7 year warranty; Corsair AX750 ($150): http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=53717 Coincidentally, all the above are stock Seasonic-manufactured units. I didn't see any others that were competitive in price/performance with those at 750W and above. edt: I get the feeling like the RV03 will have sufficient cooling without adding any fans, based on the design and previous results of the RV01 and RV02. | ||
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Anduril
United States248 Posts
I wanted to know what I can do to fix this computer so that it will run the game better if it is possible. Thank you for your help. Also here are some of the specs: AMD Phenom™ II X4 820 Processor (2.8GHz, 6MB L2 cache)5 4GB DDR3 dual- channel memory integrated nvidia geforce 9200 220 watt power supply Any other information needed I will add. Also my goal was to play Sc2 so that it will not lag during big battle, I really don't care about the graphics more of the gameplay. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
You would need to upgrade your graphics card to improve gameplay but you'll also need a new power supply to support the graphics card. We'll be able to recommend something for you if you specify your budget and what resolution you play at. How hot is hot? Are you just basing this off the hot air that comes out of your case or are you monitoring the temperatures with software? You should monitor your temperatures with software such as HWMonitor. You can clean out the case of dust, add more fans, or take off the side panel to improve cooling. | ||
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Anduril
United States248 Posts
As for the graphics card upgrades the gateway support people sent me a list of compatible cards: NVIDIA® GeForce® 310 ,NVIDIA® GeForce® 315,NVIDIA® GeForce® 320, ATI Radeon HD 5450, ATI Radeon HD 5570. I forget the resolution i play at, but i believe it is the one at the top of the list. I play with the default settings. I can check if you'd like. As for the power supply, I have looked at pictures but I don't where to find one that will fit in my case. And I do not have a set budget, I usually just work harder if I want something. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Are the expansion card slots half-height or full size? You can probably just get a HD 5670 or HD 5570. They use the same GPU chip--the HD 5570 just has a lower clock speed and thus lower performance and power consumption. | ||
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Anduril
United States248 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102923 System "requirements" quoted for graphics cards are always way bogus. The power consumption of the HD 5670 itself is pretty low, around 40W. I would think a 220W PSU would be able to handle the extra 40W or so, but it's not guaranteed. The probability that it could handle a HD 5670 but not a HD 5570 is really low though. Get the HD 5570 if you want to be safe I suppose... | ||
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