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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 18 2013 17:46 GMT
#30961
You chose two generation old parts for CPU and motherboard. The current stuff is with "88" or "85" in the chipset name, LGA1150 socket, and the CPU name i5-4xxx instead of i5-2xxx or i5-3xxx. Do you get that CPU and board particularly cheap, or why did you go that route?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 18 2013 18:34 GMT
#30962
On June 19 2013 02:29 BorealisD wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I put up a post earlier looking for a computer build but I think it got buried - I've put together a list of parts I think will be good for starcraft 2 gaming and perhaps future gaming.

Motherboard
MSI H61M-P31 (W8) LGA1155/ Intel H61 (B3)/ DDR3/ A&GbE/ MicroATX Motherboard
Processor
Intel Core i5 Processor i5-2320 3.0GHz 5.0GT/s 6MB LGA 1155 CPU, Retail
Heatsink & Fan
Intel Aluminum Base Fan for LGA1155
RAM
Crucial DDR3-1600 8GB/1Gx64 CL11 Memory
Graphics Card
Asus NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 1GB GDDR5 VGA/2DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Video Card
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200RPM SATA3/SATA 6.0 GB/s 64MB Hard Drive (3.5 inch)
Case/Chassis
Raidmax Altas ATX-295WB No Power Supply ATX Mid Tower Case (Black)
Power Supply
Solid Gear SDGR-650E 650W PS2 ATX12V v2.3 & EPS12V v2.91 Power Supply (Black)
Optical Drive
Asus DRW-24B1STA 24X Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black), Bulk (New Item!)
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit(1-Pack), OEM
Wireless Adapter
Airlink101 AWLH5085 Wireless N 150 PCI Adapter

Total Cost $857.47

What do you think?

Thanks in advance for any help, I'm a noob with building computers.


You mentioned you lived near a Microcenter so you should be able to pick up a core i5 4570 for $160 along with a H87 or B85 motherboard from Newegg for ~$70.

You do not need a 650w power supply and Solid Gear is unknown so the unit is probably junk. A Corsair CX430 is more than adequate for this.

A GTX 650 is okay for your low resolution but it isn't particularly a strong card so if you have any plans to upgrade to 1080p soon, I'd suggest a better card.

You picked a PCI wireless card yet your motherboard has no PCI slot.
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 18:41:46
June 18 2013 18:37 GMT
#30963
On June 19 2013 02:20 Ropid wrote:
There's also an SG10. It seems to be the exact same case as SG09, but with a different look for the front panel, a lot less ugly in my opinion.

Another thing to keep in mind could be, you'll perhaps have to battle a lot with the PSU cables in the SG09/10. The SG05 won't have that problem, I'd hope, as it comes with its own PSU with very short and less cables. The cheaper modded SG05 you think of will be hell, I bet. When I do a Google Image search of your PSU, there's one picture where the bundle of cables is looking like it is at least half the volume of the PSU itself.



Lmao on the sg05 with old psu, you are right.

Do you know where I can get more info on the PSU that is in there? Im trying to see if its worth buying a psu on the side if it gives me things like modular.
Edit: is it the SILVERSTONE ST45SF 450W, wouldnt make sense cause you can purchase the 2 separately @ 60 psu + 35 case?

I also did think about the SG10 but probably wont be worth the extra $ for me, but thats something i will consider later once iv decided on the SG9/10.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 19:06:21
June 18 2013 19:06 GMT
#30964
Hey guys, I've been looking to upgrade for a while and I put this build together - looking for ideas/suggestions. I'm buying this 100% for gaming, so didn't feel like 4770k was warranted. My budget is £1500, and I still need a keyboard and a mouse. I'll be transferring my 2x1tb over so I only need an SSD. Thanks.


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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 18 2013 19:18 GMT
#30965
A 650w unit is unnecessary unless you plan on doing CrossfireX.

UD3H may be a bit over the top for a novice. The Z87X-D3H is like £30 less and is probably still overkill.

You'll want an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking.

You may want to get a better case (some suggested ones are Fractal Design Arc Midi R2, Define R4, Corsair Carbide) with this kind of budget unless you're happy with the Three Hundred Two.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
June 18 2013 19:19 GMT
#30966
the graphics card and silvstone cooler are in his picture, but not the list.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 19:25:24
June 18 2013 19:21 GMT
#30967
On June 19 2013 04:06 greggy wrote:
Hey guys, I've been looking to upgrade for a while and I put this build together - looking for ideas/suggestions. I'm buying this 100% for gaming, so didn't feel like 4770k was warranted. My budget is £1500, and I still need a keyboard and a mouse. I'll be transferring my 2x1tb over so I only need an SSD. Thanks.


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Good, but need a heatsink for the CPU if you are overclocking (edit: didn't notice you had one, Cyro knows all about UK hsf, so he will probably chime in). If you aren't then dont get 'k' processor. Also at that budget might be worth getting an 840 pro for abit more speed. PSU is also overkill unless you are going to add a 2nd gpu at some point.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
June 18 2013 19:27 GMT
#30968
On June 19 2013 04:21 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 04:06 greggy wrote:
Hey guys, I've been looking to upgrade for a while and I put this build together - looking for ideas/suggestions. I'm buying this 100% for gaming, so didn't feel like 4770k was warranted. My budget is £1500, and I still need a keyboard and a mouse. I'll be transferring my 2x1tb over so I only need an SSD. Thanks.


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Good, but need a heatsink for the CPU if you are overclocking. If you aren't then dont get 'k' processor. Also at that budget might be worth getting an 840 pro for abit more speed. PSU is also overkill unless you are going to add a 2nd gpu at some point.


there's a heatsink in the picture;
is there much difference between basic and pro?;
regarding PSU, I should scale down to what, 550W?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 18 2013 19:42 GMT
#30969
Samsung 840 Pro has two additional years of warranty and is significantly better in sequential writes while also being slightly better in every other aspect.

Yes you should get a lower wattage power supply, something like the Seasonic G 450 or Superflower Golden Green 450 will be better at the same or lower price as the TX650.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 18 2013 19:44 GMT
#30970
Tigerdirect Canada has 4670k for $210, ends June 23rd: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8037045&CatId=8740

Can pricematch at Memory Express to get it for ~$195: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45429
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
June 18 2013 19:54 GMT
#30971
On June 19 2013 04:42 skyR wrote:
Samsung 840 Pro has two additional years of warranty and is significantly better in sequential writes while also being slightly better in every other aspect.

Yes you should get a lower wattage power supply, something like the Seasonic G 450 or Superflower Golden Green 450 will be better at the same or lower price as the TX650.


It's also £65 more expensive. Moreover, in my opinion I won't get much use of the warranty past the three years of cover provided by the basic. I get that I'm under budget but it just doesn't seem like a good deal when I can throw in another £50 and get a second one instead.

I reckon I could size down to this 500W corsair.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 18 2013 20:01 GMT
#30972
I'm not the one who suggested upgrading to a Pro, I'm just telling you the differences. I suggested getting a better case for ~£20 more.

The XFX Core Edition 550 is better for a similar price.
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 20:39:46
June 18 2013 20:24 GMT
#30973
I think I'm gonna go with the SG05.


Given the N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II and Sliverline Mushkin RAM, will everything here fit in the case?

--Silverstone NT06-PRO 6 Heatpipe CPU Heatsink Cooler LGA775/1155/1156/1366/2011 AM2/AM3/FM1/FM2 $50.39

--Gigabyte Z77N-WIFI mITX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 1PCI-E16 HDMI SATA3 USB3.0 DVI HDMI Motherboard $121.75

--Silverstone SG05BB-LITE Dtx mITX SFF Case White 1X3.5INT 1X2.5INT 2XUSB3.0 No PSU $35.83

--Silverstone SFX Series 450W 12V 80PLUS Gold Power Supply 80mm Fan $89.25

Any red flags in terms of psu cord lengths or usb 3.0 front panel connection issues and etc?

Any recommendation on the specific parts (watercooling perhaps)?

Any reason to go for the SG06 for $10 more? i
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
June 18 2013 20:37 GMT
#30974
On June 19 2013 05:01 skyR wrote:
I'm not the one who suggested upgrading to a Pro, I'm just telling you the differences. I suggested getting a better case for ~£20 more.

The XFX Core Edition 550 is better for a similar price.


well because of my setup fractals aren't viable (pc stand attached to desk and no space to insert USB on the top) and carbide is big. neither really floats my boat, if I'm honest though.

I didn't realise they rebranded seasonic to xfx. I'll pick that one up instead, thanks.
BorealisD
Profile Joined June 2011
32 Posts
June 18 2013 21:15 GMT
#30975
On June 19 2013 02:46 Ropid wrote:
You chose two generation old parts for CPU and motherboard. The current stuff is with "88" or "85" in the chipset name, LGA1150 socket, and the CPU name i5-4xxx instead of i5-2xxx or i5-3xxx. Do you get that CPU and board particularly cheap, or why did you go that route?


I went that route 'cuz I have no idea what I'm doing : )

I'll look into those!
BorealisD
Profile Joined June 2011
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 21:17:32
June 18 2013 21:17 GMT
#30976
On June 19 2013 03:34 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 02:29 BorealisD wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I put up a post earlier looking for a computer build but I think it got buried - I've put together a list of parts I think will be good for starcraft 2 gaming and perhaps future gaming.

Motherboard
MSI H61M-P31 (W8) LGA1155/ Intel H61 (B3)/ DDR3/ A&GbE/ MicroATX Motherboard
Processor
Intel Core i5 Processor i5-2320 3.0GHz 5.0GT/s 6MB LGA 1155 CPU, Retail
Heatsink & Fan
Intel Aluminum Base Fan for LGA1155
RAM
Crucial DDR3-1600 8GB/1Gx64 CL11 Memory
Graphics Card
Asus NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 1GB GDDR5 VGA/2DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Video Card
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200RPM SATA3/SATA 6.0 GB/s 64MB Hard Drive (3.5 inch)
Case/Chassis
Raidmax Altas ATX-295WB No Power Supply ATX Mid Tower Case (Black)
Power Supply
Solid Gear SDGR-650E 650W PS2 ATX12V v2.3 & EPS12V v2.91 Power Supply (Black)
Optical Drive
Asus DRW-24B1STA 24X Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black), Bulk (New Item!)
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit(1-Pack), OEM
Wireless Adapter
Airlink101 AWLH5085 Wireless N 150 PCI Adapter

Total Cost $857.47

What do you think?

Thanks in advance for any help, I'm a noob with building computers.


You mentioned you lived near a Microcenter so you should be able to pick up a core i5 4570 for $160 along with a H87 or B85 motherboard from Newegg for ~$70.

You do not need a 650w power supply and Solid Gear is unknown so the unit is probably junk. A Corsair CX430 is more than adequate for this.

A GTX 650 is okay for your low resolution but it isn't particularly a strong card so if you have any plans to upgrade to 1080p soon, I'd suggest a better card.

You picked a PCI wireless card yet your motherboard has no PCI slot.


Okay, I'll see what I can do about the processor and the motherboard - the gfx card is mostly limited by budget, I'll see what I can do.

According to this: http://www.amazon.com/MSI-MicroATX-Motherboard-H61M-P31-W8/dp/B0097WLXW6

This motherboard has Slots: 1x PCI-Express 3.0 x16 Slot, 1x PCI-Express 2.0 x1 Slot
S3ph
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany76 Posts
June 18 2013 21:30 GMT
#30977
On June 18 2013 19:42 Shauni wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 18 2013 18:53 S3ph wrote:
Hey again. Im sorry for the late post - been on vacation.
So I'll put all stuff together.

CPU: i5-4670k --> 217,34 € boxed with stock cooler
GFX: Gigabyte 7950 --> 278,24 €
MoBo: Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 --> 105,98 € (shippment over 7 days!) ... thats why Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H --> 145,72 €
PSU: Super Flower Golden Green PRO SF-450P14XE --> 65,44 €
HSF: Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A CPU cooler --> 36,05 €
RAM: 2x4 Kit Corsair Vengeance --> 61,48 €
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl --> 92,89 €
SSD: Samsung 840 pro 128 GB --> 116,99 €
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 3 --> 62,16 €
Soft: Windows 7 Home Edition OEM --> 81,74 (notebooksektor)

Peripherials:
Monitors: 2 x BenQ gw2450hm --> 169,00 € each (shippment - 7++ days ...damnit)
Keyboard: CM Storm Quickfire TK Cherry MX-Brown --> 79,90 (alternate.de)
Mouse: G400 --> 32,60 (shippment - 7++ days ...WTF hardwareversand.de?!)

All the prices are not up to date anymore, but the whole system should be worth 1650,00-ish
Unfortunately there is no black Friday here in Germany. Some 10% off would be great.

What do you think, guys?


Looks very good. I wouldn't get Corsair Vengeance, dunno if they block the cooler but low profile is better. Plus Corsair has the highest RMA on memory by far.


If not Corsair, then maybe Crucial? Maybe this:
http://www.alternate.de/Crucial/Crucial DIMM_8_GB_DDR3-1600_Kit,_Arbeitsspeicher/html/product/1008044/?


On June 18 2013 20:42 Cyro wrote:
S3ph, my adjustments would probably be: No windows, you can download it or borrow a friends copy (legit) and crack the key or reuse his (not really legit, but easy) I was not able to use my windows copy twice because i had a new motherboard, it took me probably about 90 seconds with a web browser to have a validated windows copy (didn't want to mess around with phone calls etc to validate on new mobo (same case, same "pc", same user etc) even though i hear you can) so there's proof of how easy it is. Up to you if you want to do this, though i'l probably get shot or banned if i keep suggesting it

The mouse - Isn't the g400s superior to the g400? Personally, i'd get another model - but that's up to preferences. I think it's also great to throw 10-25 euro on a great mousepad - something like a qck+ (grippy black cloth) or a puretrak talent (slidy/glidy, lighter color) depending on preferences, and how the specific mouse sensor works with the pads. It'd probably be great on either, but there's a few exceptions with a lot better sensor performance on 1 pad with some mice i hear. It's mostly a comfort thing, though it absolutely helps for higher level mouse control.

And RAM - I'l get a bench during the next few hours i hope of 2400 cas11 - but RAM returns seemed significant in SC2, i'd reccomend if you're going to overclocked CPU budget with a decent graphics card to throw in some nice RAM without hesitation especially if it doesn't cost too much. Something like 2133-2400+, cas 12 or lower preferably. See this: http://i.imgur.com/t5zm2Km.png - Il try to get 2400 numbers soon (:


Cyro, do you mean I need already an overclocked one or should I try to OC a regular 1666er with your benches all by myself? In the first case - i cant find a overclocked one. In later - what RAM should I get then? Already mentioned Crucial?
http://www.alternate.de/Crucial/Crucial DIMM_8_GB_DDR3-1600_Kit,_Arbeitsspeicher/html/product/1008044/?

Considering mouse - please mention your choice. I need all the possible mice being used by other users. Then I could build my opinion. Mouse pad is a good suggestion as well. I would buy a good one, yeah.
Dura lex, sed lex!
BorealisD
Profile Joined June 2011
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 21:52:21
June 18 2013 21:50 GMT
#30978
Taking into consideration my own research and the helpful comments here, I've modified my build:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/17QtB


CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS8900 Quiet CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ NCIX US) 49.99 at Microcenter
Motherboard:MSI B85M-E33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Purchased For $90.00)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.13 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $70.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N53 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (Purchased For $45.00)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (32-bit) (Purchased For $100.00)
Total: $867.07

All prices are from MicroCenter (it's very close to me)

Does that look any better?
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 22:01:29
June 18 2013 21:58 GMT
#30979
If you want to spend $60+ on ram just get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-231-666 2400mhz g.skill ram. I believe Cyro showed a 5-10% gain over 1600mhz RAM. otherwise you can grab 8gb of 1600 for 50$ or so somewhere on Newegg.

You could probably drop the CPU cooler and get a better case like the Arc Midi R2, or something smaller like the Arc mini, Temjin TJ08-E, or something like the Fractal design define r4 as well. Or just keep the cooler and upgrade the case if you have the money. Although I don't know how good that cooler is, somebody else will have to comment.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
June 18 2013 22:00 GMT
#30980
Got home and figured out the problem with the front USB port. It's not that I plugged it in the wrong place - it's that I forgot to plug it in at all. I went ahead and put it into the one up by ram anyway, but I doubt it would have made a difference.
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