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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13412 Posts
On June 18 2013 11:17 Cyro wrote: Im gonna drop from 320.18 too, and i also experienced hiccuping (unsure if driver, other stuff, or just sc2 being awful even with everything cached). Best not to use 320.18 anyway though. Ok awesome sounds good. I was looking for tips and this sounds like the most reasonable thing if others are also deciding not to use 320.18 I will try to driver sweep it and reinstall the previous one ^^ | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On June 18 2013 10:19 Cyro wrote: Hey guys, i think i can get some pretty crazy results with Haswell overclocking and RAM overclocking. It seemed really crazy to me before to attempt these kind of results, but it looks great so far. On this bench i have ~24fps (very reproducable) minimum on 3.6ghz CPU and 1600 RAM, but 35fps minimum on 4.5ghz CPU and 2000 RAM. I might be able to get 4.8ghz, 2400 RAM numbers soon. Loosened timings, but i don't think it matters. 46% higher minimums on moderate on 25% higher CPU frequency, 25% higher RAM frequency, lets see what happens if i make that 33% higher cpu frequency, 50% higher RAM frequency From these results also btw, i think it's a no brainer to pick up some 2000-2400mhz cas 9-12 RAM for sc2 and probably other stuff if it's not ridiculously expensive. If it adds $20-40 to an $800 build i'd say totally go for it if you are doing a moderate CPU OC. Here in the UK, you can aparantly get like 2200cas10 RAM for only ~£14 more than the cheapest ddr3 8gb listed on ocuk that i checked very easily, which makes it a pretty unquestionable buy i think, especially with haswell's better IMC Yeah, RAM is definitely #1 on my list of look-for deals this upcoming black friday (only 5 months away!). In other news, my computer booted on first try, good job me  Won't be playing with any overclocking until next weekend though. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
25 FX-8350's available for £139.99 ^It's kinda a shame, with haswell i7 at £275.99, but i guess it shows its place, if anyone wants budget multithreaded in the UK, gogo grab one In other news, my computer booted on first try, good job me Won't be playing with any overclocking until next weekend though. Awesome :D Mine did too, but i took like 4 hours building. I don't think that's typical for somebody who is supposed to know what they are doing | ||
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Elvedeta
Portugal395 Posts
(my post about the build was a few pages ago -> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137554¤tpage=1543#30843 ? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
http://www.pcdiga.com/2/9313/Kingston-HyperX-DDR3-2400Mhz-2x4GB-KHX24C11T2K2-8X ^That'll do 2400 cas11 on 1.65v (which is an ok voltage) It's another 10 euro more, but standard RAM for example would be 1600 cas9. The upgrade you linked, you'd gain 533mhz but lose -2 on timings, whereas the 2400 RAM, you'd gain 800mhz with the same timings as the 2133 kit, it's a much bigger gap 1600cas9 to 2133 cas11, not as big of a gap as 1600cas9 to 2400cas11, and i think if you're getting decent memory, it's better to go all the way. I mean, 20 euros between 1600cas9 and 2400cas11, go for it. I can probably get some 2400 vs 1600 benches up soon (I could do 1600cas9 vs 2400cas11 or 12 i think) if you wanna see the exact difference, but i think it's 100% worth with an OC-ing system if you want more performance in sc2 and many cpu/ram bound tasks | ||
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S3ph
Germany76 Posts
So I'll put all stuff together. CPU: i5-4670k --> 217,34 € boxed with stock cooler GFX: Gigabyte 7950 --> 278,24 € MoBo: Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 --> 105,98 € (shippment over 7 days!) ... thats why Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H --> 145,72 € PSU: Super Flower Golden Green PRO SF-450P14XE --> 65,44 € HSF: Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A CPU cooler --> 36,05 € RAM: G.Skill DIMM 8 GB DDR3-2400 Kit --> 71,90 € (alternate.de) Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl --> 92,89 € SSD: Samsung 840 pro 128 GB --> 116,99 € HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 3 --> 62,16 € Soft: Windows 7 Home Edition OEM --> 81,74 (notebooksektor) Peripherials: Monitors: 2 x BenQ gw2450hm --> 169,00 € each (shippment - 7++ days ...damnit) Keyboard: CM Storm Quickfire TK Cherry MX-Brown --> 79,90 (alternate.de) Mouse: G400 --> 32,60 (shippment - 7++ days ...WTF hardwareversand.de?!) All the prices are not up to date anymore, but the whole system should be worth 1650,00-ish Unfortunately there is no black Friday here in Germany. Some 10% off would be great. What do you think, guys? | ||
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Elvedeta
Portugal395 Posts
On June 18 2013 18:17 Cyro wrote: I'd look at something else, 2133 cas11 1.6v isn't that nice. Aparantly a lot of people can do 2400cas11 1.5v on the RAM i have, im doing some quick tests on it. http://www.pcdiga.com/2/9313/Kingston-HyperX-DDR3-2400Mhz-2x4GB-KHX24C11T2K2-8X ^That'll do 2400 cas11 on 1.65v (which is an ok voltage) It's another 10 euro more, but standard RAM for example would be 1600 cas9. The upgrade you linked, you'd gain 533mhz but lose -2 on timings, whereas the 2400 RAM, you'd gain 800mhz with the same timings as the 2133 kit, it's a much bigger gap 1600cas9 to 2133 cas11, not as big of a gap as 1600cas9 to 2400cas11, and i think if you're getting decent memory, it's better to go all the way. I mean, 20 euros between 1600cas9 and 2400cas11, go for it. I can probably get some 2400 vs 1600 benches up soon (I could do 1600cas9 vs 2400cas11 or 12 i think) if you wanna see the exact difference, but i think it's 100% worth with an OC-ing system if you want more performance in sc2 and many cpu/ram bound tasks Ahh I see, yea I will follow your advice thanks Cyro. I will probably start ordering today, tomorrow max, people didn't really comment on the build so I guess it is fine? -> PC Build | ||
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Shauni
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On June 18 2013 18:53 S3ph wrote: Hey again. Im sorry for the late post - been on vacation. So I'll put all stuff together. CPU: i5-4670k --> 217,34 € boxed with stock cooler GFX: Gigabyte 7950 --> 278,24 € MoBo: Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 --> 105,98 € (shippment over 7 days!) ... thats why Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H --> 145,72 € PSU: Super Flower Golden Green PRO SF-450P14XE --> 65,44 € HSF: Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A CPU cooler --> 36,05 € RAM: 2x4 Kit Corsair Vengeance --> 61,48 € Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl --> 92,89 € SSD: Samsung 840 pro 128 GB --> 116,99 € HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 3 --> 62,16 € Soft: Windows 7 Home Edition OEM --> 81,74 (notebooksektor) Peripherials: Monitors: 2 x BenQ gw2450hm --> 169,00 € each (shippment - 7++ days ...damnit) Keyboard: CM Storm Quickfire TK Cherry MX-Brown --> 79,90 (alternate.de) Mouse: G400 --> 32,60 (shippment - 7++ days ...WTF hardwareversand.de?!) All the prices are not up to date anymore, but the whole system should be worth 1650,00-ish Unfortunately there is no black Friday here in Germany. Some 10% off would be great. What do you think, guys? Looks very good. I wouldn't get Corsair Vengeance, dunno if they block the cooler but low profile is better. Plus Corsair has the highest RMA on memory by far. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/35nKmrA.jpg) Looking really good for 4.7 24/7 A little toasty under small fft (just like any lovely performance overclock) but sweet temps under everything else I can prime under 1.3v @ 4.7, but not with any kind of stability, Haswell seems weird in that way. I mean i passed 10x standard IBT first try at 1.28vcore, but 1.3 prime dropped a thread in 1 minute, another thread in 3 minutes, scaled up some and 1.33vcore dropped a prime thread after an hour and a half, so i should be good at 1.34, or something nearby with a bit of tuning. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ypQaHlz.png) My RAM seems ok at 2400mhz 11-11-11-28 1.5v, especially since i set cas write latency properly (i had a couple of fails over several hours before that, though i was able to clear superpi 32m np and cinebench etc), but i might try cas12 or 2200mhz to cut volts down a little, gonna read up a bit more on what these things can take. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
 The mouse - Isn't the g400s superior to the g400? Personally, i'd get another model - but that's up to preferences. I think it's also great to throw 10-25 euro on a great mousepad - something like a qck+ (grippy black cloth) or a puretrak talent (slidy/glidy, lighter color) depending on preferences, and how the specific mouse sensor works with the pads. It'd probably be great on either, but there's a few exceptions with a lot better sensor performance on 1 pad with some mice i hear. It's mostly a comfort thing, though it absolutely helps for higher level mouse control. And RAM - I'l get a bench during the next few hours i hope of 2400 cas11 - but RAM returns seemed significant in SC2, i'd reccomend if you're going to overclocked CPU budget with a decent graphics card to throw in some nice RAM without hesitation especially if it doesn't cost too much. Something like 2133-2400+, cas 12 or lower preferably. See this: http://i.imgur.com/t5zm2Km.png - Il try to get 2400 numbers soon (: | ||
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On June 18 2013 17:17 Cyro wrote: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-336-AM 25 FX-8350's available for £139.99 ^It's kinda a shame, with haswell i7 at £275.99, but i guess it shows its place, if anyone wants budget multithreaded in the UK, gogo grab one Awesome :D Mine did too, but i took like 4 hours building. I don't think that's typical for somebody who is supposed to know what they are doing Yeah it took me about 4 and a half hours before I did first boot, with the first hour or so going to making sure I put the CPU and cooler in right. The built-in cable management stuff in the c70 is a lifesaver. Only had to use two zip ties, pulling the supplementary CPU power around so it wasn't going across the open area on the backplate. The only thing I've had some trouble with is the front USB ports, but I think I might know what the issue is there. My ud4h has 2 USB3.0 header spots on it, one down by the front panels which came with a cover on it, and one up between the RAM slots and the SATA ports, which came uncovered. I plugged the front USB cable into the bottom one and moved the cover up and I'm not getting anything from the front USB, so hopefully switching it to the top one will fix that. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
Chipset: Up to 2 USB 3.0/2.0 ports (available through the internal USB header) Up to 6 USB 2.0/1.1 ports (available through the internal USB headers) Chipset + 2 Renesas® uPD720210 USB 3.0 Hubs: Up to 8 USB 3.0/2.0 ports (6 ports on the back panel, 2 ports available through the internal USB header) So I think the third-party stuff is actually what goes out the back. The block diagram also makes me think that's what's going on. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
So I have these components and looking to move into a smaller case: HAF 912 (230 x 480 x 496 mm) Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 (mATX) N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC (238 x 111 x 37mm) Hyper 212 plus (161mm tall) XFX Core Edition 450W (140mm x 86mm x 150mm) Also, I dont need a dvd drive, and i could use a 2.5inch HHD + SSD (if removing hdd 3.5 inch cage will make some case that i dont know about better for my needs.) Looking at the cases suggested as well as other, I have come to the possible solutions here: SG09 build @ $110: $85 for case, $25 for wificard (220 mm (W) x 295 mm (H) x 354 mm (D)) SG01 build @ $175: $100 for case, $25 for wificard, $35-50 for new cpu heatsink (263 mm (W) x 212 mm (H) x 393 mm (D)) SG05 build @ $290-90 : $115 for case, $100-125 for new mobo, $35-50 for new cpu heatsink - Salvage old mobo and psu (~$90) SG05 build - with modding @ $190-50: $35 for case, $100-125 for new mobo, $35-50 for new cpu heatsink - Salvage old mobo (~$50) (222 mm (W) x 176 mm (H) x 276 mm (D), 10.8 liters) Size comparison: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LNcK4TL.png) The suggested Node 304 is too big to justify a new mobo purchase and the TJ08E doesnt seem to be much smaller than the HAF912 Parts Iv looked at: Heatsink: Silverstone NT06-PRO 6 Mobo: Zotac Z68ITX-A-E Mini ITX Z68, Gigabyte Z77N-WIFI mITX Also, USB3.0 front panal is a nice little bonus with new motherboard. Thanks again for your input/help/suggestion/corrections. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
Another thing to keep in mind could be, you'll perhaps have to battle a lot with the PSU cables in the SG09/10. The SG05 won't have that problem, I'd hope, as it comes with its own PSU with very short and less cables. The cheaper modded SG05 you think of will be hell, I bet. When I do a Google Image search of your PSU, there's one picture where the bundle of cables is looking like it is at least half the volume of the PSU itself. | ||
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BorealisD
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Motherboard MSI H61M-P31 (W8) LGA1155/ Intel H61 (B3)/ DDR3/ A&GbE/ MicroATX Motherboard Processor Intel Core i5 Processor i5-2320 3.0GHz 5.0GT/s 6MB LGA 1155 CPU, Retail Heatsink & Fan Intel Aluminum Base Fan for LGA1155 RAM Crucial DDR3-1600 8GB/1Gx64 CL11 Memory Graphics Card Asus NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 1GB GDDR5 VGA/2DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Video Card Hard Drive Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200RPM SATA3/SATA 6.0 GB/s 64MB Hard Drive (3.5 inch) Case/Chassis Raidmax Altas ATX-295WB No Power Supply ATX Mid Tower Case (Black) Power Supply Solid Gear SDGR-650E 650W PS2 ATX12V v2.3 & EPS12V v2.91 Power Supply (Black) Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1STA 24X Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black), Bulk (New Item!) Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit(1-Pack), OEM Wireless Adapter Airlink101 AWLH5085 Wireless N 150 PCI Adapter Total Cost $857.47 What do you think? Thanks in advance for any help, I'm a noob with building computers. | ||
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