EPTSo what do I start to check to see the culprit? I get a high number of pagefaults because of Security Essentials at the moment but not sure if thats the only thing causing me freezing or not.
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ZeromuS
Canada13395 Posts
So what do I start to check to see the culprit? I get a high number of pagefaults because of Security Essentials at the moment but not sure if thats the only thing causing me freezing or not. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
Those page faults are nothing worrying. That's related to how programs and the OS manage files and memory nowadays, not just RAM size and the page file like in the past. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
My benchmark for example, it's less than a minute long but i have to run it on average like 4 or 5 times to get a run that doesn't have a 0.5-2second stutter in it, just cause it's a thing that happens in sc2 every few game minutes | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
 gonna try some more but it just looks bad T_T | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Just stuff like LLC. I already said btw, use turbo or second highest LLC setting as a baseline. When people quote voltages they do so assuming you are using a moderate LLC level | ||
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ZeromuS
Canada13395 Posts
On June 17 2013 03:45 Cyro wrote: What games? Sc2 is known to stutter like a bitch especially if you have not already ran through all of the models/animations/sounds etc, but even then some if you have. My benchmark for example, it's less than a minute long but i have to run it on average like 4 or 5 times to get a run that doesn't have a 0.5-2second stutter in it, just cause it's a thing that happens in sc2 every few game minutes SC2, league, skyrim you name it I get the odd hiccup. Ill run another memtest while im out for the night and come back tomorrow to trouble shoot based on the tips here I guess. Oh well, as long as I can sort it out eventually  | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
did there are screenshots of llc setting from my testing so far llc doesnt do shit for me and gone back to 4,2 currently as its stable without whea etc and heat in ibt is pretty okay, 72c with 1.28 vc, gonna try to lower voltage tomorrow again, wanna play some games now but a couple of days ago testing without llc on (it is on now) 1.28vc was the lowest stable 4.2ghz for my setup and if i wanna go to 4.3 i need to go to 1.365 to make it p95 stable but whea error...so well not so stable ^^ | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Why do people overclock with Turbo ratio's instead of setting CPU multiplier? Just for using offset volts? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ygFsCn1.jpg) | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
nice system, top exhaust or intake? is it worth it? still debating if i put a fan in that top space, have one lying around but temps currently doesnt seem worth it. how noisy is your rig? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On June 17 2013 04:58 Cyro wrote: LLC off to LLC turbo/extreme will cut the vcore you need by ~0.05-0.1v in terms of what you set in bios Why do people overclock with Turbo ratio's instead of setting CPU multiplier? Just for using offset volts? Those settings in the screenshots are like that because I started out by copying the settings from my previous ASRock board. Simply setting 46 multiplier and disabling turbo multipliers, it seems to be very similar. The CPU still slows down to 1600 MHz. VID also still goes up and down depending on what's running, so offset still works just like with turbo multiplier. I was imagining seeing more in-between speeds like 2.5 GHz showing up in CPU-Z when turbo multipliers were used. I want Windows to have all possible power savings stuff available to work with, so that's why I don't want to disable turbo multipliers without knowing for sure it's the same. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
nice system, top exhaust or intake? is it worth it? still debating if i put a fan in that top space, have one lying around but temps currently doesnt seem worth it. how noisy is your rig? It's exhaust, and it's kinda important to have good airflow. For me this means 1-2 front intakes, bottom intake, top 170mm exhaust and probably 120mm back exhaust (though i might throttle them a bit from max speed for more positive pressure etcetc) It's really quiet actually, GPU under max load or HDD spinning up are both several times louder than all of the CPU and case fans put together flying at max RPM | ||
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Catch]22
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Vearo
Canada168 Posts
The Questions + Show Spoiler + My budget is ~$1450 with tax/shipping (credit card limit). If something would be a worthwhile upgrade I would have to buy it maybe a week later. My computer resolution is 1920x1080, with a second monitor at 1280x1024. I plan on waiting for the 760 before purchasing my graphics card, so please skip graphics card for this build. I'm going to be using the computer for gaming, and I would like the potential to stream games. The games I play are Planetside 2 (CPU Heavy), Starcraft 2, Borderlands 2 My upgrade cycle will almost assuredly be an entire new build 2+ years later. I can purchase the parts immediately, assuming everything fits within the aforementioned budget of ~$1450. I plan of doing some overclocking, but nothing too major. I figure a decent aftermarket air-based heatsink should be good enough for my needs. I will need an operating system. I do not plan to SLI or Crossfire for this build. There are no reasonably-priced local stores where I live (FUTURESHOP LOL), so everything will have to be purchased online. Notes on storage: -I would like to shoot for at least 8GB of RAM (I think that's standard nowadays anyway) as my current computer of 4GB actually starts maxing out when I play Planetside 2. -I will be keeping my current Hard drive of 1TB -My sister will want a 500GB hard drive -I will want a SSD around 128 GB -My sister wants a SSD around 64 GB Thank you very much! | ||
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Craton
United States17276 Posts
On June 17 2013 06:08 Cyro wrote: It's exhaust, and it's kinda important to have good airflow. For me this means 1-2 front intakes, bottom intake, top 170mm exhaust and probably 120mm back exhaust (though i might throttle them a bit from max speed for more positive pressure etcetc) It's really quiet actually, GPU under max load or HDD spinning up are both several times louder than all of the CPU and case fans put together flying at max RPM What's always amused me to a degree is the loudest thing I've had in the past several years has been this one craptastic 300GB HDD, not any kind of high RPM fan. | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On June 17 2013 06:08 Cyro wrote: It's exhaust, and it's kinda important to have good airflow. For me this means 1-2 front intakes, bottom intake, top 170mm exhaust and probably 120mm back exhaust (though i might throttle them a bit from max speed for more positive pressure etcetc) It's really quiet actually, GPU under max load or HDD spinning up are both several times louder than all of the CPU and case fans put together flying at max RPM Are you going for positive pressure because of the kind of graphics card you have? I read somewhere that when you don't have a blower card, but rather one that simply sends air around the interior case, that it's better to have negative pressure. Can anyone back that up or refute it? | ||
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Craton
United States17276 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 17 2013 07:09 Vearo wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I'm building an entire new computer, with my sister buying my old one. I will need an entire new build and she needs some data storage for herself. The Questions + Show Spoiler + My budget is ~$1450 with tax/shipping (credit card limit). If something would be a worthwhile upgrade I would have to buy it maybe a week later. My computer resolution is 1920x1080, with a second monitor at 1280x1024. I plan on waiting for the 760 before purchasing my graphics card, so please skip graphics card for this build. I'm going to be using the computer for gaming, and I would like the potential to stream games. The games I play are Planetside 2 (CPU Heavy), Starcraft 2, Borderlands 2 My upgrade cycle will almost assuredly be an entire new build 2+ years later. I can purchase the parts immediately, assuming everything fits within the aforementioned budget of ~$1450. I plan of doing some overclocking, but nothing too major. I figure a decent aftermarket air-based heatsink should be good enough for my needs. I will need an operating system. I do not plan to SLI or Crossfire for this build. There are no reasonably-priced local stores where I live (FUTURESHOP LOL), so everything will have to be purchased online. Notes on storage: -I would like to shoot for at least 8GB of RAM (I think that's standard nowadays anyway) as my current computer of 4GB actually starts maxing out when I play Planetside 2. -I will be keeping my current Hard drive of 1TB -My sister will want a 500GB hard drive -I will want a SSD around 128 GB -My sister wants a SSD around 64 GB Thank you very much! Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 @ $70 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=78227&promoid=1283 Corsair Vengeance LP 2x4gb @ $62.49 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186 ) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35113 Intel Core i5 4670k & Gigabyte Z87X-D3H @ $398 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1325501 Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $70 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO @ $27.49 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099 ) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36377 Western Digital Blue 1TB @ $ 63.74 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339 ) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX40551 Samsung 840 120gb x2 @ $94.62 x2 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/246495/Samsung_Memory___Storage/MZ_7TD120BW/ ) , $189.24 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43340 DVD Burner @ $15.40 if you need it (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/245882/Samsung/SH_224DB_BEBE/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76258 Totals to ~$896 before taxes and shipping.
If you want to spend remainder of your budget, here are some options:
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
And another budget option: Faster RAM. It gives surprisingly big and easy returns for CPU bound stuff, sc2, ps2, live encoding for streaming UK, but for example: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-002-AR Random pick. £20 (~$30) more than the cheapest ddr3 8gb 1600mhz but 2400cas10 - and you have something like a 10-15% minimum fps increase vs 1600 in sc2 pretty damn easily. It seems harder to get good RAM in the US, which is a shame, but it's still a powerful option | ||
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