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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:10 skyR wrote: 50c is normal. Anything up to 70c is deemed acceptable for most people. Sweet, for the most part it hovers around 40-45C, and hits 50C when it's really stressed. I'm guessing the thermal paste is okay for now. I'll read up on overclocking, and then see how the heat on the cores go. :D | ||
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:10 skyR wrote: 50c is normal. Anything up to 70c is deemed acceptable for most people. And anything up to 80/85 is perfectly safe (  ) | ||
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Medivac
United States15 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:04 skyR wrote: 7790 for $164 is overpriced, you can get a 7850 at that price point. The newer Caviar Greens are advertised as 7200 RPM because of IntelliPower. They're okay for storage drives but they're not really 7200 RPM drives like the Caviar Blue if you plan on running software off it. No reason to buy processor and motherboard separately from NCIX and Amazon when a Newegg bundle puts it at the same price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1325391 Not sure how strict your pricing is but the U2312HM is $209 rather than what is listed on PCPartPicker... I'm going to stick with the Caviar Green because I'm just using it for storage. I am getting the CPU and mobo both from newegg, it was just a mistake when generating the parts list. U2312HM is $198 on Newegg, so no issues there, unless someone can tell me why I should get a different monitor. Do I need a 500W PSU if I get a Radeon HD 7850? Gigabyte says that you do, but according to pcpartpicker this rig will only use 308W. Why would it say that? If I go with that Gigabyte HD Radeon 7850, this is what the build would be: CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.97 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($184.99 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (Purchased For $43.31) Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Amazon) Monitor: Dell U2312HM 23.0" Monitor ($198.00 @ Newegg) Total: $1037.21 There's a $10 mail-in rebate on that GPU that wasn't calculated in, so the total is really $1027.21. What do you think? I'm ready to buy | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On the flip side, a quality PSU will actually be able to supply more watts than what's printed on its box. If your hardware will use 300 W, looking at something over 400 W is correct. Something smaller might be bad as efficiency suffers if a PSU is used at 100 %, heat will increase and the fan will be noisy. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
6-700$ preferably. What is your resolution? Resolution for this monitor is 1280x1024 which isnt bad, resolution doesnt really matter to me anyways(unless its like 800x600 or something -_-) What are you using it for? Gaming mostly, SC2/BW/LoL Streaming : don't wanna stream super high def but it would be nice to be able to What is your upgrade cycle? Not often at all. When do you plan on building it? Within the next week or two. Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? Yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? Internet. I live in the USA and theres no decent places nearby to pick stuff up from | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
Here's my config so far : Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 31,80 € CPU: Processeur Intel Core i3 3220 (3.3 GHz) 108,89 € MB: Carte mère Asus P8B75-M LX 54,89 € Memory: Mémoire DDR3 TopAchat, 4 Go, PC3-10666 24,99 € SSD: SSD Samsung Série 840, 250 Go, SATA III 151,90 € HDD: Disque dur TopAchat, 640 Go 44,80 € RAM: Corsair CX430, 430 W 44,80 € OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, Licence et support 1 PC, 64 bits, OEM 95,90 € I took the graphics card out, I can just add one later. Will she be able to run the Sims smoothly with good graphics? I have a hard time realizing how good the integrated graphics are. I also took only one 4Gb chip of ram, planning to add another one down the road. I followed you advice and chose a 250gig SSD. Will this computer allow for some editing and encoding? What do you think about the case? I hesitated between that and a Cooler Master Elite 344. Many thanks. | ||
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Craton
United States17294 Posts
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
@kukaracha : http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_w_boi_sa_puis_ref_est_in10045808.html if you are not intending to get a gpu this one will be fine, and much smaller then what you have if you are intending to get a gpu later though you can only have low profile (i think that's what they're called) ones in this case, something liek this : http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_wgfx_pcie_puis_ref_est_in10058419.html dunno how graphic intensive the sims are, and for nothign too heavy or high end the i3 should be ok, if you take the gpu out though you could go up to an i5 oh and you would want a mini-ITX motherboard to get in this tower : http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_w_cm_1155_puis_ref_est_in10061723.html | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13408 Posts
Really looking forward to having a reliable machine for a few years ^^ | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On June 15 2013 07:12 Kukaracha wrote: Alright, I'm sorry skyR but I talked to my GF and she wants a tower... with the condition of it being able to fit in a hand-luggage so it can be carried abroad. So my question is : is there no problem with that, other than size? And considering this, I opted for a mini tower. Are there any major downsides for the average user? You should look into very small cases. The mini tower is still super large for travel, I feel. For examples of what I mean, look up Coolermaster Elite 100 if you don't want a graphics card, and Coolermaster Elite 120 if you want space for a future graphics card. Both should be less than 50 €. If you don't want a graphics card, you might want to look into AMD instead of Intel. There are those CPUs they call "APU" or "A-Series". Those CPUs have a Radeon GPU integrated. The GPU is a bit crippled because it has to use the normal RAM of the PC, but it should be still a lot better than Intel's integrated graphics. | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [specs] + CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD5H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Military Green) ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply: Rosewill Fortress 650W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
Don't worry about the added power consumption of overclocking your CPU. I remember experiments with an i7 Ivy Bridge showing the CPU using 50 W at 4 GHz, 100 W at 4.5 GHz, 150 W at 5 GHz. It's not that extreme for you as you probably won't be able to burn more than about 50 W extra by overclocking and still cool it with your air cooler. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
Also, the mini motherboard you posted goes with the Lian-Li case, right? If I keep a bigger case, I don't need something that small, do I? @Ropid: The limits I have in mind are therefore the limits applied to hand luggage, 56 x 45 x 25cm (22in x 18in x 10in). I don't want to pick too small of a case, because I want to be able tu upgrade it easily if she ever wants to play fancier games. I do plan on buying a GPU later, it's just too expensive for now, so I also need space for that. And I checked for the Sims specs and it should be just fine... minimum is GMA 3000 which is three generations earlier. Is there any other quick way to determine if a graphic card is better than another one other than checking the chronology of the models? | ||
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Craton
United States17294 Posts
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On June 15 2013 09:28 Antoine wrote: Hoping for some reassurance that my power supply will be enough for my build. Somebody told me it might not be enough and since I'm planning to overclock the CPU and GPU I'm a bit nervous. I put it into http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine best as I could and came up with 570 but since I'm new to this I'm not too sure about it + Show Spoiler [specs] + CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD5H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Military Green) ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply: Rosewill Fortress 650W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer I have a 520W and used to have crossfire 6850's that were oc'd with an oc'd 2500k. You'll be fine. Just got a gtx 770 myself, such a great card. | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
On June 15 2013 10:18 Kukaracha wrote: @Rachnar: so you didn't have any trouble getting your PC into a plane? Mind you, my GF is not going to carry it around, she just wants to take it with her if ever we move a couple of months abroad. Also, the mini motherboard you posted goes with the Lian-Li case, right? If I keep a bigger case, I don't need something that small, do I? @Ropid: The limits I have in mind are therefore the limits applied to hand luggage, 56 x 45 x 25cm (22in x 18in x 10in). I don't want to pick too small of a case, because I want to be able tu upgrade it easily if she ever wants to play fancier games. I do plan on buying a GPU later, it's just too expensive for now, so I also need space for that. And I checked for the Sims specs and it should be just fine... minimum is GMA 3000 which is three generations earlier. Is there any other quick way to determine if a graphic card is better than another one other than checking the chronology of the models? i unassembled mine because it even if it would've gone through as cary on, it would've been annoying (and good thing i didn't too, my connecting flight got canceled and ended up changing air ports in new york and spending the night at la guarda.... even though i did cross alive who was going home from wcs thanks to that lol) but normally it should be fine, you will want though to unscrew the heatsink and psu though as those can break off pretty easily, rest should be no problem | ||
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LFHaunt
United States102 Posts
Finally built my computer today! Heres my setup! http://pcpartpicker.com/p/14wig Im gunna start streaming. twitch.tv/LFHaunt On that note can someone tell me how I can get on the streaming list here on TL? nvm on the streaming thing I sent in a request | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13408 Posts
Steam is downloading a bunch of games at about 800kb/s while im listening to music and playing starcraft and sometimes the game will stutter and I'll hear the audio stutter as well. For about 1 second. I am not sure if this is related to the audio codec while playing sounds, or if its related to my hard drive or something else. Temperatures are all around 35 Celsius on average and the highest under load for 3 days while HWMonitor has been running is 48 celsius on the GPU and 51 on the CPU while under load. Is there anything I should be doing to isolate the cause of this stutter? On my laptop it meant my Hard drive was bad and I really hope this isn't the case here. Or maybe I just have too many things writing to the HDD at once? Im not sure but I did get a budget drive since I can't really afford anything fancy right now for storage. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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