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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
June 15 2013 17:22 GMT
#30841
Yes this is a good time. Haswell just came out, and it seems to be much better than people originally thought for over clocking if you do it right. I know Cyro has had some good results, I'm currently testing 4.5Ghz on mine.
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
June 15 2013 17:47 GMT
#30842
i always shed tears when u guys speak bout successfull overclocks
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Elvedeta
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal395 Posts
June 15 2013 17:58 GMT
#30843
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2013 08:05 Elvedeta wrote:
I’m going to build my pc in the next days so wanted your opinions and help on the parts. I won’t be able to get any parts from my old PC because it will be for my brother so I will need to buy everything from scratch.
Thanks for any help in advance.

What is your budget?

1000€ - 1100€
The lower the better but I can also go a bit higher if it would make a big difference, performance wise.

What is your resolution?

1920x1080
At first I will only use one monitor but will buy the second monitor shortly.

What are you using it for?

It will be for mostly gaming, games like Starcraft 2, Battlefield 3, Bioshock Infinite, etc. and also browsing and some times when I need to work from home I will be using software like Visual Studio, Photoshop for example.

What is your upgrade cycle?
It will be around 3-4 years.

When do you plan on building it?
I wanted to start ordering and getting all the parts this week or at maximum next week.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes I do.

Do you need an Operating System?

No don’t need it.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No, don’t have plans to do that for now.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I will be buying from stores in Portugal
PCDiga (http://www.pcdiga.com/)
ChipTec (http://www.chiptec.net/)
Or Pixmania. (http://www.pixmania.com/pt/pt/home.html
If there is a store in Europe that has cheaper parts and will delivery it in Portugal, ofc I will be up for it.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This was the build I was thinking, but ofc I’m not an expert so any advice you give me, I will gladly take it.
The prices are from the three website I posted before, I looked where I could buy the cheapest part in all three.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K (235€)
MotherBoard: Motherboard Asus Z87-A (139.9€)
Heatsink: NOCTUA NH-D14 (69.9€)
GPU: Asus GTX660 2GB DirectCU II (204.11€)
RAM: KINGSTON HyperX blu RED Series 2 x 4 GB DDR3-1600 (58.9€)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Titanium Grey (96.05€)
PSU: XFX Core Edition PSU PRO 550W (59.9€)
SSD: Samsung 128GB 840 Pro Series (127.9€)
HD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB (58.5€)
Optical Driver: Samsung DVD-RW 24x Sata Preto Bulk (17.9€)

Total: 1093.05 € (1069.06 + 24.99 -> The 25€ are from Pixmania delivery rate, mostly because of the case)
------------------------------------------
I have a few Questions/Observations:

-> The room I’m going to have the computer does not have AC and Portugal gets really hot in Summer time(30ºC – 40ºC almost every day is considered normal here) and the room is going to have two computers. I do normally have a fan in the room most of the time but still, I was wondering if getting that heatsink would be a safe choice in my case,( also because I will be overcloking) or should I go for something else, even if a bit more expensive.

-> I will be doing a light-mid overcloking, so nothing super high, and was wondering if that motherboard would be ok for that, if I should get a better one or even get a cheaper one?

-> I have seen some people say that you can go with the 450W PSU, but I choose the 550W mostly because I want to “play safe” and because I will be overcloking. Is it a waste of money and should I get the 450W one?

-> Still about the PSU, I’m not sure if this PSU is compatible with the new Z87 Boards. If possible I would like a modular or semi-modular PSU, so I can have a better air flow in my case. Do you think it is worth it or not? And If yes, what PSU should I get in terms of the modular stuff?

Once more thanks in advance for any help, I really appreciate.


I posted about two pages ago but I guess the post just gone unnoticed. I didn't want to repost but I wanted to start ordering the fastest I can. Sorry for bothering this much.
nichan
Profile Joined December 2010
United States158 Posts
June 15 2013 18:13 GMT
#30844
I need help i just finished my new build and right now i'm trying to install windows 8 on my computer but i keep getting this "No signed device drivers were found. Make sure that the installation media contains the correct drivers, and then click ok

can any one help mi with this please
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
June 15 2013 18:31 GMT
#30845
Have an offer of a near-new H100i for 60 euro off a friend, I am about to order a few things as an upgrade, a CPU cooler too. I was planning on a high end air cooler, and it was the Dark Rock Pro 2 I was looking at it. The best price I got for that was 56 pounds delivered. So the H100i is a bit cheaper...

I looked up a few reviews it seems the DRP2 edges out the water cooler in performance. Which would you recommend? According to reviews the Dark Rock Pro 2 is a nice bit quieter.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 15 2013 19:22 GMT
#30846
On June 16 2013 00:44 ZeromuS wrote:
Actually, guys. Ive been using the PC a lot in the last two days and I've noticed a stuttering.

Steam is downloading a bunch of games at about 800kb/s while im listening to music and playing starcraft and sometimes the game will stutter and I'll hear the audio stutter as well. For about 1 second.

I am not sure if this is related to the audio codec while playing sounds, or if its related to my hard drive or something else. Temperatures are all around 35 Celsius on average and the highest under load for 3 days while HWMonitor has been running is 48 celsius on the GPU and 51 on the CPU while under load.

Is there anything I should be doing to isolate the cause of this stutter? On my laptop it meant my Hard drive was bad and I really hope this isn't the case here.

Or maybe I just have too many things writing to the HDD at once? Im not sure but I did get a budget drive since I can't really afford anything fancy right now for storage.


To isolate the cause, do you still experience this while not downloading?
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13405 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-15 20:30:40
June 15 2013 19:25 GMT
#30847
On June 16 2013 04:22 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 00:44 ZeromuS wrote:
Actually, guys. Ive been using the PC a lot in the last two days and I've noticed a stuttering.

Steam is downloading a bunch of games at about 800kb/s while im listening to music and playing starcraft and sometimes the game will stutter and I'll hear the audio stutter as well. For about 1 second.

I am not sure if this is related to the audio codec while playing sounds, or if its related to my hard drive or something else. Temperatures are all around 35 Celsius on average and the highest under load for 3 days while HWMonitor has been running is 48 celsius on the GPU and 51 on the CPU while under load.

Is there anything I should be doing to isolate the cause of this stutter? On my laptop it meant my Hard drive was bad and I really hope this isn't the case here.

Or maybe I just have too many things writing to the HDD at once? Im not sure but I did get a budget drive since I can't really afford anything fancy right now for storage.


To isolate the cause, do you still experience this while not downloading?


A little yes. So far I've been able to gather that I have DPC latency and the culprit drivers are ataport.sys and iusb3xhc.sys so far both with thousands of milliseconds of duration time instead of tenths of thousandths.

Apparently Ataport is the worst of them, according to latency mon I have had pretty long hard pagefault resolutions, and also ndis.sys is causing latency too.

And there are spikes alongside \when these processes seem to be activating/hanging


EDIT: Discovery!

Its my wireless network card.

It causes NDIS.sys to hang and then i get stutter whether I am connected to the internet or not. The problem is, I can't run an ethernet cable to my PC so what do i do now -_-
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-15 20:30:34
June 15 2013 20:29 GMT
#30848
On June 16 2013 02:00 Sufficiency wrote:
Hi I am planning to get a new rig with maybe a 1500-2000 dollar budget (so I can probably get all the "new stuff"). I haven't followed the computer hardware scene in a while though... is this a good time to get my rig or should I wait for what's-that-company's-name to release their new lineup?

It's already out. You're good to go.

Your budget is very high. You can get pretty much top end components all around.
twitch.tv/cratonz
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 15 2013 20:50 GMT
#30849
On June 16 2013 04:25 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 04:22 skyR wrote:
On June 16 2013 00:44 ZeromuS wrote:
Actually, guys. Ive been using the PC a lot in the last two days and I've noticed a stuttering.

Steam is downloading a bunch of games at about 800kb/s while im listening to music and playing starcraft and sometimes the game will stutter and I'll hear the audio stutter as well. For about 1 second.

I am not sure if this is related to the audio codec while playing sounds, or if its related to my hard drive or something else. Temperatures are all around 35 Celsius on average and the highest under load for 3 days while HWMonitor has been running is 48 celsius on the GPU and 51 on the CPU while under load.

Is there anything I should be doing to isolate the cause of this stutter? On my laptop it meant my Hard drive was bad and I really hope this isn't the case here.

Or maybe I just have too many things writing to the HDD at once? Im not sure but I did get a budget drive since I can't really afford anything fancy right now for storage.


To isolate the cause, do you still experience this while not downloading?


A little yes. So far I've been able to gather that I have DPC latency and the culprit drivers are ataport.sys and iusb3xhc.sys so far both with thousands of milliseconds of duration time instead of tenths of thousandths.

Apparently Ataport is the worst of them, according to latency mon I have had pretty long hard pagefault resolutions, and also ndis.sys is causing latency too.

And there are spikes alongside \when these processes seem to be activating/hanging


EDIT: Discovery!

Its my wireless network card.

It causes NDIS.sys to hang and then i get stutter whether I am connected to the internet or not. The problem is, I can't run an ethernet cable to my PC so what do i do now -_-


Try a different wireless card or usb dongle or try powerline?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 15 2013 22:48 GMT
#30850
On June 16 2013 02:22 Alryk wrote:
Yes this is a good time. Haswell just came out, and it seems to be much better than people originally thought for over clocking if you do it right. I know Cyro has had some good results, I'm currently testing 4.5Ghz on mine.


Thanks! I'll do some more homework on this thing.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-15 23:19:25
June 15 2013 23:08 GMT
#30851
If you're building a new configuration or basically anyone wanting a SSD and have a CC near you, you can pick up a Samsung 840 250gb for $150 today.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
June 15 2013 23:48 GMT
#30852
CC?
twitch.tv/cratonz
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 15 2013 23:48 GMT
#30853
Canada Computers.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13405 Posts
June 16 2013 01:00 GMT
#30854
On June 16 2013 05:50 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 04:25 ZeromuS wrote:
On June 16 2013 04:22 skyR wrote:
On June 16 2013 00:44 ZeromuS wrote:
Actually, guys. Ive been using the PC a lot in the last two days and I've noticed a stuttering.

Steam is downloading a bunch of games at about 800kb/s while im listening to music and playing starcraft and sometimes the game will stutter and I'll hear the audio stutter as well. For about 1 second.

I am not sure if this is related to the audio codec while playing sounds, or if its related to my hard drive or something else. Temperatures are all around 35 Celsius on average and the highest under load for 3 days while HWMonitor has been running is 48 celsius on the GPU and 51 on the CPU while under load.

Is there anything I should be doing to isolate the cause of this stutter? On my laptop it meant my Hard drive was bad and I really hope this isn't the case here.

Or maybe I just have too many things writing to the HDD at once? Im not sure but I did get a budget drive since I can't really afford anything fancy right now for storage.


To isolate the cause, do you still experience this while not downloading?


A little yes. So far I've been able to gather that I have DPC latency and the culprit drivers are ataport.sys and iusb3xhc.sys so far both with thousands of milliseconds of duration time instead of tenths of thousandths.

Apparently Ataport is the worst of them, according to latency mon I have had pretty long hard pagefault resolutions, and also ndis.sys is causing latency too.

And there are spikes alongside \when these processes seem to be activating/hanging


EDIT: Discovery!

Its my wireless network card.

It causes NDIS.sys to hang and then i get stutter whether I am connected to the internet or not. The problem is, I can't run an ethernet cable to my PC so what do i do now -_-


Try a different wireless card or usb dongle or try powerline?


The solution I ended up going with was a range extender that has an Ethernet out. It doesn't work on my 5Ghz band but thats ok at least I can listen to music properly and I dont need to rely on a super weak signal from a USB WiFi Dongle. Bonus points for adding extra range to the backyard now.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
June 16 2013 01:08 GMT
#30855
On June 16 2013 03:31 Gumbi wrote:
Have an offer of a near-new H100i for 60 euro off a friend, I am about to order a few things as an upgrade, a CPU cooler too. I was planning on a high end air cooler, and it was the Dark Rock Pro 2 I was looking at it. The best price I got for that was 56 pounds delivered. So the H100i is a bit cheaper...

I looked up a few reviews it seems the DRP2 edges out the water cooler in performance. Which would you recommend? According to reviews the Dark Rock Pro 2 is a nice bit quieter.

Any comments?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 01:37:27
June 16 2013 01:34 GMT
#30856
I'd recommend Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev. A instead. Cheaper, much more quiet and very good performance.

I don't think Dark Rock Pro 2 is good at all in price-performance, not sure why it'd be your choice. Price-performance specifically, if you just want performance it does the job really well of course.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
-RusH
Profile Joined June 2012
United States240 Posts
June 16 2013 02:32 GMT
#30857
Hi guys, just here to say thanks for the help for helping me ugprade my computer. It's all up and running fine. On my previous computer I used to run EVGA's Precision to monitor my GPU temperatures, which program do you recommend to monitor CPU temperatures as well? Thanks.
Life..
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 16 2013 02:44 GMT
#30858
HW Monitor
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
June 16 2013 03:38 GMT
#30859
We decided to do the drilling tonight to run the cable from the router (which is in the next room over) to my room, only to discover what I believe is a fire wall between the drywall layers. I suspect this isn't going to be easily dealt with so I need to look seriously at wireless solutions. I don't want to pay too much in case it's an easier fix than I'm worried about, but I don't want to sacrifice too much performance. My motherboard does not have built-in wireless and neither do any of the alternatives I was considering, so I've ruled that out. What are the main differences in performance between USB, PCI-Ex, PCI, and so on? I could pick up http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833168077 for $15 at Micro Center if it's adequate.
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Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
June 16 2013 03:47 GMT
#30860
On June 16 2013 12:38 Antoine wrote:
We decided to do the drilling tonight to run the cable from the router (which is in the next room over) to my room, only to discover what I believe is a fire wall between the drywall layers. I suspect this isn't going to be easily dealt with so I need to look seriously at wireless solutions. I don't want to pay too much in case it's an easier fix than I'm worried about, but I don't want to sacrifice too much performance. My motherboard does not have built-in wireless and neither do any of the alternatives I was considering, so I've ruled that out. What are the main differences in performance between USB, PCI-Ex, PCI, and so on? I could pick up http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833168077 for $15 at Micro Center if it's adequate.


Was on wireless for about 10 years. There's almost no difference. It's worse than wired but the difference between different wireless devices and where they plug in at is not noticeable. It's mostly just settings and what types of settings they accept. Like b/n/etc.
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