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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 20:22:19
June 01 2013 20:20 GMT
#30221
Haswell is sort of disappointing. Even so, I guess this is a good time to buy a new computer with one of those. It's not like I was planning on a huge overclock anyway and the lower power consumption will definitely be useful in the long run. (Though if the newest Ivybridge chips are significantly better overlockers those could be worth it?)

This computer is looking to cost around 1000 euros, hopefully it will last for over 5 years.
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 01 2013 20:21 GMT
#30222
I've also read somewhere those alternative BCLK straps are all not available on the normal CPUs, only 100 MHz, so no serious overclocking without the "k" CPUs.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 20:29:25
June 01 2013 20:26 GMT
#30223
On June 02 2013 05:08 skyR wrote:
If no one has noticed... they increased the pricing on the K suffix processors once again.


So yeah, no VT-d / TXT / vPro (as before), no TSX, no GT3e or even GT3 graphics on the K suffix versions.

Any news on the amount of wiggling around possible with clock speeds without K? If you can get say 110 MHz BCLK on some boards with non-K, that's up to a 4.40-4.62 GHz overclock possible on a plain i5-4670 if it's +4 multiplier bins allowed.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 21:37:25
June 01 2013 21:36 GMT
#30224
On June 02 2013 05:26 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:08 skyR wrote:
If no one has noticed... they increased the pricing on the K suffix processors once again.


So yeah, no VT-d / TXT / vPro (as before), no TSX, no GT3e or even GT3 graphics on the K suffix versions.

Any news on the amount of wiggling around possible with clock speeds without K? If you can get say 110 MHz BCLK on some boards with non-K, that's up to a 4.40-4.62 GHz overclock possible on a plain i5-4670 if it's +4 multiplier bins allowed.


I think toms and Anandtech stated that you still can't change BCLK on the non K processors, so meh. Haha.

ULV Haswell is launching on the first day of Computex, isn't it?
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Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 22:13:36
June 01 2013 22:00 GMT
#30225
Hey guys, planning on building my own computer over the course of a month or so, could use your help one what parts to buy and imput on everything, as Im not a genius with this stuff


What is your budget?
No real budget but aiming for 800$ or so.

What is your resolution?
1600x900, Subject to change though as I want to eventually buy a newer monitor


What are you using it for?
Moderate Gaming (guild wars 2, Starcraft 2 mainly), photoshop mostly, with eventually a lot of photoshop


What is your upgrade cycle?
probably 3-4 years

When do you plan on building it?
As soon as possible? I'll be buying parts in waves as i'll never be able to afford them all at once.

Do you plan on overclocking?
If need be

Do you need an Operating System?
yes.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
If needed or recommended.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg.ca or Tigerdirect.ca


Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 01 2013 22:16 GMT
#30226
Is there a particular reason why you want to buy from Newegg or Tigerdirect as opposed to a Canadian retailer? Both of these retailers don't offer pricematching and Newegg is going to be expensive if you are purchasing in batches since its American.

Pricing constantly change so to purchase your parts over time, you sort of need knowledge of parts. What is a good purchase now may not be a good purchase tomorrow.
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
June 01 2013 22:26 GMT
#30227
On June 02 2013 07:16 skyR wrote:
Is there a particular reason why you want to buy from Newegg or Tigerdirect as opposed to a Canadian retailer? Both of these retailers don't offer pricematching and Newegg is going to be expensive if you are purchasing in batches since its American.

Pricing constantly change so to purchase your parts over time, you sort of need knowledge of parts. What is a good purchase now may not be a good purchase tomorrow.

Only areas I know of that I can purchase things, I live in London ontario so Idk any good retailers aside from overly priced bestbuy and futureshop. Price is not really an issue for anything and It's only going to be over the span of this month, so half in 1 week other half in 3 weeks or so. I'm sitting on a not so great computer now, so an upgrade is needed even if its not 100% all top of the line or whatever. Just something to get me through for a couple of years as this one probably won't last much longer.
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
June 01 2013 22:28 GMT
#30228
NCIX?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 01 2013 23:20 GMT
#30229
There's NCIX, Memory Express, Canada Computers, etc.

NCIX has sales every week that start / end on Wednesday so if you're not buying until next week then ask again next week. Nothing great on sale right now anyways.
zSoloo
Profile Joined May 2010
50 Posts
June 02 2013 00:23 GMT
#30230
So whats the verdict on this new CPU, For somene like me i just want to spend like 800ish +/- to stream and play..

I dont need to overclock or anything, i dont think...
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 02 2013 00:37 GMT
#30231
It still depends on motherboard pricing and how much retailers will jack up the price.

relevant for anyone looking to purchase Haswell: http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/campaigns/intel/haswell/prelaunch.asp?cm_re=Homepage-_-Spot 01d-_-CatId_promo_intelHaswell_1days
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
June 02 2013 01:29 GMT
#30232
Oh cool, thanks. Is it reasonable to expect the revealed (or most of them) motherboards to be available on day 1 as well? I keep seeing them launching "this week" but not necessarily on the same day. Are they going to launch after?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 02 2013 01:47 GMT
#30233
Yes, lots of motherboards are typically available on day one which apparently is tomorrow.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
June 02 2013 02:13 GMT
#30234
On June 02 2013 10:47 skyR wrote:
Yes, lots of motherboards are typically available on day one which apparently is tomorrow.

Ya wth happened with the 3rd?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 02 2013 02:42 GMT
#30235
Core i7 4770k, $350: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901
Core i5 4670k, $250: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899
Core i5 4670, $230: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116898
Core i5 4570, $210: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116896
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
June 02 2013 02:44 GMT
#30236
On June 02 2013 11:42 skyR wrote:
Core i7 4770k, $350: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901
Core i5 4670k, $250: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899
Core i5 4670, $230: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116898
Core i5 4570, $210: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116896

Ouch I think im am going to stick with the microcent 3570k deal unless they have something similar for the 4670k tomorrow
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 02 2013 02:46 GMT
#30237
There's also the motherboards. They'll be super pricey, I bet.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 02 2013 02:47 GMT
#30238
They are. MSI G43 is $120, ASUS A is $140 I think and C is $150 or was it the other way around? Asrock Extreme3 is $140.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 02 2013 03:01 GMT
#30239
i7-3770k and i5-3570k were $350 and $250 at launch too:
http://camelegg.com/product/N82E16819116501?locale=US
http://camelegg.com/product/N82E16819116504?locale=US

MSI G41 looks much less anemic this time, and that's $110.

I wonder about voltage and other settings on these cheap boards, as it's not like they've got to spend extra on a better controller or implement certain things to expose features the FIVR is capable of... right? Or things still locked down for product segmentation?
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 03:35:21
June 02 2013 03:17 GMT
#30240
Was thinking about the Gigabyte G1 Sniper M5 at 200$ and an i5-4670k, but it's just a tad more expensive than I was hoping. I'd probably push it as far as I can if I get a good chip, although I'd be happy with I think 4.7 if I can manage it. Is the sniper an okay choice?

How important is the special audio codec in it? I'd like good sound quality, and I think it would definitely be worth it if I can avoid a sound card.

Other options would be Z87-MX-D3H at 125$ or the Extreme4 at 145$. Would this be good enough to possibly get what I was hoping for, or no? And it seems like the Creative core Sound3D Core or whatever it's called is used on their actual sound cards as well...
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