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Craton

United States17262 Posts

May 31 2013 19:32 GMT

#30181

Closed loop = you can't add to / remove from it (it's closed as in you can't open it). Custom loop = you can customize it however you want.

I dunno; it's always made sense to me.

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

May 31 2013 19:44 GMT

#30182

Uh, I guess you all can safely ignore the below.

Yeah, but custom, piecemeal systems are closed while running. Usually the description of a system is based on the mode and theory of operation, not the mechanics of assembly. I mean, that's what's of more interest... or wait. People often don't care as much about things on a conceptual level, and the details of assembly and maintenance are certainly important to people using them.

By closed loop, I think of feedback loops first, anyhow. Maybe I'd just prefer calling them self contained.

Osh

United States48 Posts

May 31 2013 20:09 GMT

#30183

As I'm preparing for a recommend build I have been wondering if I would be able to transfer over my HDD Seagate- Barracuda 7200.10 Sata 3.0 Gb/s 750 GB and my plds dvd+-RW dh-16a6s.

I've been using these in my current system for five years and would love to transfer these over as it would save me some money to put into other parts. But the other part of me questions how much longer they can or will last. I haven't had a problem with them yet.

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

May 31 2013 20:16 GMT

#30184

Yeah, you can use both. An older hard drive like that may be a little slower and noisier than something these days, not to mention maybe a little more likely to fail (than a new product past the initial period), but it's okay as long as you know what you're dealing with. As always, if you have important data, or just in general, keep backups. DVD burners are like $15 anyway, but that's $15 saved. Good.

Craton

United States17262 Posts

May 31 2013 23:40 GMT

#30185

HDDs on average last quite a number of years.

zSoloo

50 Posts

June 01 2013 00:13 GMT

#30186

I'm wanting to buy my computer pretty soon, should i wait for the new Core i5 4670 or just get the 3570

Craton

United States17262 Posts

June 01 2013 00:17 GMT

#30187

Well they come out in a week.

zSoloo

50 Posts

June 01 2013 00:27 GMT

#30188

Is there any benefit to me waiting to buy, only ask because im pressed for buying time, the sooner the better

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

June 01 2013 00:30 GMT

#30189

Well Haswell is coming out on Monday so... and companies don't even ship on weekends so...

zSoloo

50 Posts

June 01 2013 00:39 GMT

#30190

Ha - Well when you put it like that - Thanks for the answers <3

Cyro

United Kingdom20319 Posts

June 01 2013 01:16 GMT

#30191

Yea man it's saturday and it releases monday (how early can we order these things? I know Aria displayed them for a short period of time; can we 00:01 these things, or do we have to wait until later in the day, or even a day or two after? I have no idea)

I was never going to delid, but i find myself asking where to find a vice, not if it's a good idea >.>

If a h220 can keep a delidded 1.42v ivy at ~72c max then i wanna get some o'dat

iTzSnypah

United States1738 Posts

June 01 2013 01:21 GMT

#30192

I know I'm very late to the party but why the hell would you use 38mm Fans on a 25mm radiator when you can use a 38mm radiator (RX series $5 premium over RS series) and 25mm fans and have more cooling power in the same amount of space. That review was written by an asshat.

Also GL getting your haswells. When ivy came out they were out of stock for like a month and a half...

Cyro

United Kingdom20319 Posts

June 01 2013 01:26 GMT

#30193

Also GL getting your haswells. When ivy came out they were out of stock for like a month and a half...

Well hopefully they are shit enough that nobody wants them. We have no idea until NDA lifts, i thought we'd have some idea of the worth of these CPU's before they literally released and were shipped

Several sources showing unbelievably awful results, several showing unbelievably great ones and several saying all of the sources are wrong and wait for NDA to lift, which is grimfully hilarious

Alryk

United States2718 Posts

June 01 2013 01:28 GMT

#30194

Are they going on sale Sunday or Monday? I think I've heard June 2nd more often but I saw june 3rd at least once... well hopefully it had to do with 22nm problems, and we won't have it this time haha.

Cyro

United Kingdom20319 Posts

June 01 2013 01:31 GMT

#30195

June 3'rd official date, people thought 2'nd before

Craton

United States17262 Posts

June 01 2013 02:25 GMT

#30196

On June 01 2013 09:27 zSoloo wrote:
Is there any benefit to me waiting to buy, only ask because im pressed for buying time, the sooner the better

If you get next gen, basically you get ~10% more performance plus or minus a bit.

If they put big sales on the likes of 3570k/3770k you might consider picking it up since those are both still really good, but I don't think anything beyond minor price decreases are expected.

Alryk

United States2718 Posts

June 01 2013 02:39 GMT

#30197

Man, I wish the NDA would lift on Saturday or at least Sunday. I'll be right by a microcenter until then. If Haswell sucked, I could just get a nice and cheap 3570k. Ah well. Maybe I can still get a best buy or fry's to price match. Anybody have your own personal guesses as to how well it will do? Does intel normally land above/below the rumors or is there no general pattern?

Craton

United States17262 Posts

June 01 2013 03:21 GMT

#30198

Best Buy won't price match (do they even carry 3570k's?). Fry's might, but I seem to recall hearing that they won't for that.

The limited info that has come out has put the thing at like 7-13% better than current and I seem to recall hearing that the overclocking wasn't much better than IB but I don't remember.