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On July 26 2010 12:12 IntoTheWow wrote:
CPU + mobo = good.
HDD -> try to get a WD Black (not blue) or Samsung Spinpoint F3.
I've seen a lot of you recommending the Spinpoint, but I've also read really good reviews on the Seagate Barracuda 7200.12,
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/seagate_barracuda_720012_1tb
With the prices as such (for 1TB)
Spinpoint ............520 HKD
Barracuda ..........481 HKD
which would you pick?
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I would take the Barracuda if 40HKD is a significant amount, but if it isn't, I would take the Spinpoint.
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32MB cache really isn't going to do much for your performance. It isn't worth the extra $13. The more you access your drive, logically the more useful the cache is, and generally you don't access your drive enough to make it significant.
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They both run off the same platter sizes but the F3 performs just slightly better, and they usually cost the same so ppl recommend the F3
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BFG was known for making reliable PSUs and their lifetime warranties on GPUs. However, BFG has pretty much gone under recently after killing both their GPU and PSU branches. I don't think you'll have a problem with that PSU though.
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I currently use a Core 2 Quad Q9450 overclocked to 3.30GHz would I see any improvement in gaming if I were to switch to an i7?
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Virtually none whatsoever.
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this processor is serving me quite well then =)
thanks for the response
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@doublezee, you may want to check out memoryexpress as they offer pricematching and is having a free shipping promotion atm.
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On July 26 2010 12:21 FragKrag wrote:
I would take the Barracuda if 40HKD is a significant amount, but if it isn't, I would take the Spinpoint.
40 HKD is about 5 USD......
so.... Spinpoint it is!
Edit: Also, for a CPU, P55, does it make sense to go for a Xeon chip?
In the previous computer thread, someone mentionend that the Xeon X 3440 is the same as an i7 860.
Previously I was just going to go for a i5 750, (or 760, since the price difference is small) but does anyone know anything about this?
the Xeon chip goes for about 1780 HKD,
i7 860 goes for about 2220 HKD.
i5 costs 1539 HKD for the 750
and 1599 HKD for the 760.
Xeon is clocked lower though......
(for conversion to USD use google or a rough conversion is divide by 8)
Kinda confused which one offers the best value.....
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On July 26 2010 13:26 skyR wrote:
@doublezee, you may want to check out memoryexpress as they offer pricematching and is having a free shipping promotion atm.
Thanks, I'll check that out. I pricematched a couple things on NCIX and saved $15 bucks. I'll let you know if memoryexpress offers a better deal. 
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On July 26 2010 16:13 johanngrunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2010 12:21 FragKrag wrote:
I would take the Barracuda if 40HKD is a significant amount, but if it isn't, I would take the Spinpoint. 40 HKD is about 5 USD...... so.... Spinpoint it is! Edit: Also, for a CPU, P55, does it make sense to go for a Xeon chip? In the previous computer thread, someone mentionend that the Xeon X 3440 is the same as an i7 860. Previously I was just going to go for a i5 750, (or 760, since the price difference is small) but does anyone know anything about this? the Xeon chip goes for about 1780 HKD, i7 860 goes for about 2220 HKD. i5 costs 1539 HKD for the 750 and 1599 HKD for the 760. Xeon is clocked lower though...... (for conversion to USD use google or a rough conversion is divide by 8) Kinda confused which one offers the best value.....
Most Xeons don't work on desktop boards you'll need a workstation board meant for xeons, most xeons don't oc well due to using very selective ram compatibility that tends to be slower because specialty memory.
They may be speced similarly but like a Quarto vs a regular Geforce (nvidia)they aren't exactly the same.
Xeons are meant for folding or running a server, they can game but not as well. Although it may cost less to buy the processor, i bet if you looked up a motherboard that would fit it and ram it would cost a ways bit more, esp the ram.
For gaming a I5-760/750 will do fine
If you want a do streaming while playing they will still do fine but a 860 will do a tiny bit better just a tiny bit.
If you want to record using fraps then encode it for youtube or w.e the 860 does a ton better in encoding using the right programs.
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If you're uploading on youtube, chances are you're going to be using XviD or something, in which case the i7 860 doesn't help that much.
I would go with the i5 750.
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On July 27 2010 04:23 FragKrag wrote:
If you're uploading on youtube, chances are you're going to be using XviD or something, in which case the i7 860 doesn't help that much.
I would go with the i5 750.
I use MeGUI and other i know use handbrake which use properly threaded x264 builds, you can even run x64 x264 builds if you want. The difference is nice enough to notice, ionno the diff scales the same once both are oced though. Using MPEG4-ASP instead of AVC is lame.
But personally i'd probably still be too cheap to shell out for a 860 over a 760
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On July 27 2010 10:19 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2010 04:23 FragKrag wrote:
If you're uploading on youtube, chances are you're going to be using XviD or something, in which case the i7 860 doesn't help that much.
I would go with the i5 750. I use MeGUI and other i know use handbrake which use properly threaded x264 builds, you can even run x64 x264 builds if you want. The difference is nice enough to notice, ionno the diff scales the same once both are oced though. Using MPEG4-ASP instead of AVC is lame. But personally i'd probably still be too cheap to shell out for a 860 over a 760
I've been doing quite a bit of transcoding from Xvid to x264 using Handbrake, but I agree that the 860 is just so expensive......
I'm probably going to get the 760 because the price is not much more than that of the 750, but I don't know if it will be better binned and better for overclocking. Will it be the same as the i7 920 to 930?
Will it just be a toss up and all down to luck whether I get a good piece of silicon?
And for a monitor, I've decided to go with a Benq G2420 HD.... sigh, not 16:10 but... oh well.
any opinions? it costs about 1390 HKD, which is 178 USD.
EDIT: OMG!!!!! It's the 27th!!!! YAY!!!!
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Quick question!
I need a cheap ass mobo for this setup:
AMD Athlon II X3 440 3.0 GHz
Sapphire RADEON HD 5670 - - Radeon HD 5670 - 512 MB
Kingston ValueRAM minne - 2 GB - DIMM 240-pin - DDR3
Any recommendations?
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On July 26 2010 16:13 johanngrunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2010 12:21 FragKrag wrote:
I would take the Barracuda if 40HKD is a significant amount, but if it isn't, I would take the Spinpoint. 40 HKD is about 5 USD...... so.... Spinpoint it is! Edit: Also, for a CPU, P55, does it make sense to go for a Xeon chip? In the previous computer thread, someone mentionend that the Xeon X 3440 is the same as an i7 860. Previously I was just going to go for a i5 750, (or 760, since the price difference is small) but does anyone know anything about this? the Xeon chip goes for about 1780 HKD, i7 860 goes for about 2220 HKD. i5 costs 1539 HKD for the 750 and 1599 HKD for the 760. Xeon is clocked lower though...... (for conversion to USD use google or a rough conversion is divide by 8) Kinda confused which one offers the best value.....
A 2.66Ghz Xeon will have the exact same benchmarks for gaming as a 2.66Ghz i7. Most higher-end Gigabyte motherboards support Xeon CPUs as they are not significantly different than the desktop equivalents. Check the CPU support list on Gigabyte's webpage for whatever motherboard you are thinking about getting.
Also, if it does not say it is supported, trying googing your board and Xeon. Most will just work out of the box.
Technically, Xeons should have a lower VID at the same clock speed, (binned higher), so you should be able to overclock better with a Xeon that is comprable to your desktop i7. Again, this is with the same GHz CPUs. If you end up with one with only a 16x multipler, it obviously will be hard to get above 3.2GHz. 200-210 BLCK is normally the max on most P55/X58 boards.
For example, a quick google shows that the P55A-UD3P works with Xeons (3440 on the page I found) of the proper socket despite the support page not showing it. You can use either UDIMMs or FBDIMMs. FBDIMMs are actually cheaper in some cases, especially when buying 4GB sticks.
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