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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
April 27 2012 01:52 GMT
#21161
That's pretty stupid, I've seen the same shit in other kinds of electronics and it's freaking annoying. Just wait a while and they won't even provide you with the relevant information to know which card you are buying, it will be a surprise! ;(
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 27 2012 01:53 GMT
#21162
The funny thing is that its the exact same name.

Not like 9800 GT, 9800GTX or 9800SE or whatever nvidia is doing with "ti" now. Its actually just the exact same name lol.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 01:59:35
April 27 2012 01:58 GMT
#21163
On April 27 2012 10:53 Medrea wrote:
The funny thing is that its the exact same name.

Not like 9800 GT, 9800GTX or 9800SE or whatever nvidia is doing with "ti" now. Its actually just the exact same name lol.


Yeah... imagine when people post specs from the control panel now. "Nvidia GT 600 series graphics..." "Which model is it?" "GT 640" "Well, your problem is undoubtedly your CPU, but buy a new graphics card or never post here again."

I suppose this is what GPU-z is for.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 27 2012 02:02 GMT
#21164
Well whatever. I get to chalk this up as another reason why someone should build there own computer. Or another one I mention on forums. Obviously they are doing this shit so they can pawn leftovers on people who dont know any better.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 02:26:32
April 27 2012 02:23 GMT
#21165
Different OEMs are willing to pay different amounts for a GT 640 model to replace previous GT 430, GT 440, GT 530, and GT 555 models. What's important to them is that the graphics card model number increases regularly, and it's also nice if the new model with a higher number has better performance.

There's maybe not enough supply or the cost is too high for 28nm (or volume shipment needs to be now or soon), so we get a recycled 40nm part. The 28nm DDR3 model has a lower TDP, so it is suitable for a slightly different class of system than the GDDR5 model.

edit: obviously naming doesn't make sense, but Nvidia is not marketing these at consumers. Consumers mostly won't need to deal with the confusion.

I also don't think it'd kill them to call them like GT 440 SE or use some other uniquely-identifying suffix or prefix. But oh well. The actual OEMs can always set the clock speeds slightly different, but it'd at least be nice to have one product name refer to a specific combination of GPU and memory type.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 27 2012 02:59 GMT
#21166
The confusion is enough where I wouldnt trust anyone in possession of the card to know exactly what they got, be it LAN center or otherwise. If it was just a suffix thing then yeah, but this shit is the exact same name.
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LocusCoeruleus
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway32 Posts
April 27 2012 09:23 GMT
#21167
Some advice for buying a laptop would be greatly appreciated. My budget is < $1000 and I want a computer that is compatible with ubuntu and can do programming stuff fairly efficiently (eclipse for example). It has to be around 15" and I would really like an SSD. Finding a computer under 1000 with an SSD has proven hard though. Anyone got any tips? I've never modified a laptop before, but would it be possible to buy something without an SSD and replace the hard drive?
Thanks!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
April 27 2012 09:38 GMT
#21168
Check out what medion offer, they usually have good priced laptops and often come with SSD's
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 19:34:22
April 27 2012 14:51 GMT
#21169
starting putting together my rig. I boot up my build and everthing spins but I get no picture when I plug in the gpu hdmi

Asrock p67 pro
2500k
His HD6870

Getting D6 error- no video input device detected

Tried my current video card that works and it got this error also
Is it the board?
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 27 2012 21:07 GMT
#21170
Possibly or you forgot both the 6pin PCI-E connectors or the 8pin motherboard connector.
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 21:55:15
April 27 2012 21:51 GMT
#21171
Both the 8 pin and 24 pin motherboard connectors are in and the card has both 6 pin pci-express connectors in
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 27 2012 22:03 GMT
#21172
Maybe it wants video drivers first? I know my PC occasionally does screwy shit using HDMI as an out, although never quite that.

Like when I run dual displays occasionally for big events, even though the HDMI is display 1, until I get into the OS, everything goes to the DVI slot.

Make sure you're on the right HDMI as well, if it has multiple inputs.
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 22:12:43
April 27 2012 22:09 GMT
#21173
On April 28 2012 07:03 JingleHell wrote:
Maybe it wants video drivers first? I know my PC occasionally does screwy shit using HDMI as an out, although never quite that.

Like when I run dual displays occasionally for big events, even though the HDMI is display 1, until I get into the OS, everything goes to the DVI slot.

Make sure you're on the right HDMI as well, if it has multiple inputs.


I tried every output, hdmi and dvi

How would I go about dowloading the drivers? I have only made the test build so far just to see if it reaches post so no hardrive etc

Actually I am not sure if that would help seeing as the mobo doeesnt even recognise the gpu is there
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 27 2012 22:21 GMT
#21174
On April 28 2012 07:09 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 07:03 JingleHell wrote:
Maybe it wants video drivers first? I know my PC occasionally does screwy shit using HDMI as an out, although never quite that.

Like when I run dual displays occasionally for big events, even though the HDMI is display 1, until I get into the OS, everything goes to the DVI slot.

Make sure you're on the right HDMI as well, if it has multiple inputs.


I tried every output, hdmi and dvi

How would I go about dowloading the drivers? I have only made the test build so far just to see if it reaches post so no hardrive etc

Actually I am not sure if that would help seeing as the mobo doeesnt even recognise the gpu is there


Well, if that's the case, then you either have a bad motherboard or a bad GPU, assuming everything is plugged in right. Do you have another PCIE slot, even a shitty one?
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
April 27 2012 22:24 GMT
#21175
I am going to try the gpu in my current computer. If it works in that I assume its the mobo. Is there any chance that it may be the processor? I checked it and none of the pins seem to be damaged or bent however if it comes to rma'ing then I would like to know I am sending back the correct thing.
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 27 2012 22:26 GMT
#21176
On April 28 2012 07:24 TheMooseHeed wrote:
I am going to try the gpu in my current computer. If it works in that I assume its the mobo. Is there any chance that it may be the processor? I checked it and none of the pins seem to be damaged or bent however if it comes to rma'ing then I would like to know I am sending back the correct thing.


At this stage, it's pretty trial and error and shit. You can swap stuff around and narrow it down pretty far though. Unfortunately, damn near anything CAN cause trouble, but play the odds. Always play the odds. Motherboard seems more prone to causing that trouble than CPU, so try it first if the GPU works.
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
April 27 2012 23:13 GMT
#21177
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2012 07:26 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 07:24 TheMooseHeed wrote:
I am going to try the gpu in my current computer. If it works in that I assume its the mobo. Is there any chance that it may be the processor? I checked it and none of the pins seem to be damaged or bent however if it comes to rma'ing then I would like to know I am sending back the correct thing.


At this stage, it's pretty trial and error and shit. You can swap stuff around and narrow it down pretty far though. Unfortunately, damn near anything CAN cause trouble, but play the odds. Always play the odds. Motherboard seems more prone to causing that trouble than CPU, so try it first if the GPU works.



Ok so I couldnt fit the gpu in case of my current rig and taking out everything is simply not possible. The fact that the 9800gt I use now didnt work in the new mobo either would point towards that being the fault no?
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 23:15:30
April 27 2012 23:15 GMT
#21178
On April 28 2012 08:13 TheMooseHeed wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2012 07:26 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 07:24 TheMooseHeed wrote:
I am going to try the gpu in my current computer. If it works in that I assume its the mobo. Is there any chance that it may be the processor? I checked it and none of the pins seem to be damaged or bent however if it comes to rma'ing then I would like to know I am sending back the correct thing.


At this stage, it's pretty trial and error and shit. You can swap stuff around and narrow it down pretty far though. Unfortunately, damn near anything CAN cause trouble, but play the odds. Always play the odds. Motherboard seems more prone to causing that trouble than CPU, so try it first if the GPU works.



Ok so I couldnt fit the gpu in case of my current rig and taking out everything is simply not possible. The fact that the 9800gt I use now didnt work in the new mobo either would point towards that being the fault no?


Typically, yes. Did your GPU come with molex-PCIE power adapters? You can try those just to make sure there isn't a broken wire in the PCIE power off your PSU. (That's an improbable thing, but you sounded like you'd prefer to verify as many things as possible before RMAs.)
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
April 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#21179
Yeah I thought that may be an issue so I used the adapters and the card powered (fan spinning) up but still wasnt detected
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 23:24:31
April 27 2012 23:23 GMT
#21180
On April 28 2012 08:18 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Yeah I thought that may be an issue so I used the adapters and the card powered (fan spinning) up but still wasnt detected


I like you, have computer problems more often. That probably sounds confusing.

Anyways, yeah, you can pretty safely accuse the GPU of being a bad sample.

The first line, by way of explanation, is just because you seem so levelheaded about troubleshooting. Far too rare.
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