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On June 16 2011 01:10 clownzim wrote:
any mice with 400 dpi and usb plug can be "good"
I agree with most of what you have said, however I must say that 400 dpi just doesn't cut it anymore. The BW days of the LMO are over...games are no longer 640x480 resolution. To play on standard 1920x1080 you are going to have to jack up the sensitivity to the max and deal with terrible pixel accuracy.
That being said, new mouses get released every year and mouses such as the LMO have been replaced throughout the years by mx300, G1, G3, which ironically aren't really being sold anymore. There will be the zowie mico coming out which seems promising.
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On June 16 2011 04:23 Bambipwnsu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 01:10 clownzim wrote:
any mice with 400 dpi and usb plug can be "good"
I agree with most of what you have said, however I must say that 400 dpi just doesn't cut it anymore. The BW days of the LMO are over...games are no longer 640x480 resolution. To play on standard 1920x1080 you are going to have to jack up the sensitivity to the max and deal with terrible pixel accuracy. That being said, new mouses get released every year and mouses such as the LMO have been replaced throughout the years by mx300, G1, G3, which ironically aren't really being sold anymore. There will be the zowie mico coming out which seems promising.
I am actually still using M-BJ58 at 500Hz polling rate (very reliable optical sensor!). I simply down the graphics resolution (a lot of you might hate doing that) and up a bit the sensitivity setting to solve the issue insufficient dpi (400). The units on the screen IMO are generally large enough such that upping the sensitivity slightly wouldn't really cause inaccuracies of clicking on the units. I use mostly my arm movement to control the mouse, which is not optimal, but really, I don't want to screw up my wrist from using wrist based maneuver as I already suffered a bit from playing D2 too much back in college days.
I am currently top division ranked gold hoping to work my way up to platinum when the new season starts.
Regarding to G1 (1000 dpi ver.) . It is actually still widely available in Asia. If you don't mind ordering internationally from a PCHome web store in Taiwan (very reputable even overseas) you can get one with 30 + 10 USD international shipping.
http://global.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&func=exhibit&IT_NO=DCAH02-A53788593&SR_NO=DCAH02&ROWNO=10&tm=u
But I guess it would only makes sens for those who are hardcore about the G1/G3/MX300.
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I recently got a Logitech G400 (the successor to the mx518) and I love it. I used a deathadder before this one, and I think my control is much better with the G400. Problem is they weren't in stores when I bought mine, and was only purchasable through the Logitech website. They're supposed to be releasing them to Best Buys like..around this time I believe. They're not SUPER expensive either, $40-50 ish.
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if youre just entering the 'gaming mouse' market for the first time, most people would probably recommend the logitech 518 as well as the razer deathadder. these two mice have the largest support in terms of mass positive feedback and itll give you a very good feel on whether or not you like the mice or what you might like better in the future.
me personally my first gaming mouse was a razer diamondback 3g followed by a razer abyssus mouse. i regret neither purchases.
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for me anything like old G3 mouse would be ideal, i use G3 and its GREAT
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On July 19 2011 02:58 JiYan wrote:
if youre just entering the 'gaming mouse' market for the first time, most people would probably recommend the logitech 518 as well as the razer deathadder. these two mice have the largest support in terms of mass positive feedback and itll give you a very good feel on whether or not you like the mice or what you might like better in the future.
me personally my first gaming mouse was a razer diamondback 3g followed by a razer abyssus mouse. i regret neither purchases.
I bought a razer abyssus. It's astonishingly good.
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I bought the intellimouse 3.0 5 months back (or so) but have been experiencing some sensor(?) issues lately so am contemplating upgrading to the deathadder. I hear they share a similar design. That or a razer abyssus.
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The deathadder seems like an intelligent transition from an intellimouse
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I used the G5 for 5 Years, a few months ago i bought the Steelseries Xai. I think the steelseries mice are the best you can get, my Xai is just so comfortable :D
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is Xai good for palm grippers?
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oh and for the curious, i love my abyssus and i am a palm grip user.
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I owuldn't say that a specific mouse is suited better for gaming in overall. I believe that every person has their own preferations when it comes to mouses therefore rendering it impossible for anyone to say a mouse that everyone would like and would play better with.
One that is comfortable and feels good is the one that i stick with.
I currently switcheng between Logitech MX518 and the Razer Deathadder Respawn since i have 1 of them both.
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Fingertip grip with the standard Gx9 precision grip. Very good mouse for RTS. Although I would like to use my Ikari (most comfortable mouse ever, not suited for RTS though) for daily activities, after getting used to high dpi settings, using a lower dpi mouse is just pain in the ass since you have to move your wrist so much.
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So my Steelseries Xai passed away today after a bit more than one year... cant use the left mouse button any more , which ofc isnt that great for starcraft. I didnt even smash it or anything, it just stopped working.
I read through this thread a bit now, and i think im gonna buy a cheap one from microsoft or logitech now, for like 10-25 €.
Lesson learned.
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Abyssus owner here, have owned 5 or so gaming mice in my lifetime but this one is the best(IMO of course) for RTS.
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the one that fits for you, and that's all!
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Of all the mouses I use:
-Logitech G5 (Blue, 2000DPI)
-Razer Deathadder (Mac edition, 1800DPI)
-Microsoft Sidewinder (unknown, it was my cousins)
-Razer Salmosa (1800DPI)
-Steelseries Kinzu (3200DPI)
-Steelseries Xai (5000DPI)
-Razer Mamba (5600DPI)
-Razer Abyssus (3500DPI)
The razer abyssus is my current mouse of choice. I first started off with some random wireless logitech mouse, then moved to a gaming mouse the blue G5. After a while, I caved in and bought the deathadder (fucking sexy feel) and it was THE best thing I used. I heard small mouses are great for RTS so I tried the salmosa, it became the best thing for me honestly. I love my deathadder but the thing was, it wasn't light. I don't mind large/medium size mouses if they aren't heavy. The kinzu was almost perfect but it had a built-in acceleration (which I refuse to condone). I manage to score a xai and used that thing. It's a fantastic mouse, there's no doubt about it but the weight was pulling me down. Then the abyssus came. btw, the sidewinder felt like shit and the mamba is hella legit.
Since using a new monitor at 1080p resolution, 1800dpi on my salmosa (which was my main mouse) doesn't cut it. Since the abyssus is basically an upgraded salmosa, I've made the switch and now that's my new main mouse.
TLDRl; So, I'd recommened the Deathadder, Mamba, Abyssus (or salmosa) or the Xai.
btw I'm using a steelseries qck mousepad on every mouse I used.
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Generally there are only 2 major factors you need to consider when getting a mouse:
1. has sufficient DPI for it's uses. This is a combination of sensitivity preference and operating resolution.
2. Suits your mouse grip. Some people might be prefer mice to be more ergonomic or larger, while others might want a small ambidextrous type.
If you're playing only SC1, diablo 2 (or other 10+ year old games at 640x480 resolution) I could see using an 800DPI mouse, but otherwise I would highly recommend a mouse with higher than 800 DPI.
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