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Yoricko
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore22 Posts
June 01 2010 07:02 GMT
#1021
Starcraft 2 is unplayable on a Polycarbonate Macbook with Intel X3100 GMA.

lololol
I AM ZERGLING RAWRAWRAWR
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
June 01 2010 07:23 GMT
#1022
Currently running Q6600 @ 3.4GHz, 4GB RAM, 9800GX2 @ STOCK Clocks

I wouldn't recommend the 9800GX2 as a card for people needing an upgrade to play the game. Many of the advertised 1GB versions of the card are actually 2x512MB (512 for each GPU), which means you can only set textures to High instead of Ultra... Additionally this card needs VERY good ventilation to run at USABLE temperatures -and good airflow usually means fast dust buildup -it's a hard system to maintain. I currently go as high as 115C after long periods of gaming -this causes the card to throttle and lag the game like crazy.
6581
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 07:43:30
June 01 2010 07:42 GMT
#1023
lol ofc you wouldn't recommend it that's like what year 2 year old card, you can put textures on ultra but you have to do split frame style sli instead of alternative frame rendering.
Koof
Profile Joined June 2008
United States66 Posts
June 01 2010 07:43 GMT
#1024
i'm looking into some laptops, and I think i've narrowed it down to two choices. which would be stronger for running sc2, all other things being equal (the processors being the bigger issue)

2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T9600
& ATI HD4650 (possibly 4670)

1.6GHz Intel Core i7-720QM
& Nvidia GT 240M

I've read that A: Quad Cores would be best for SC2 but also B: that clock speed makes a big difference. Between these two choices there's an obvious trade off: one has a relatively high clock speed, the other is a quad core.

Thanks.
gedassan
Profile Joined March 2010
Lithuania83 Posts
June 01 2010 11:23 GMT
#1025
On June 01 2010 16:43 Koof wrote:
i'm looking into some laptops, and I think i've narrowed it down to two choices. which would be stronger for running sc2, all other things being equal (the processors being the bigger issue)

2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T9600
& ATI HD4650 (possibly 4670)

1.6GHz Intel Core i7-720QM
& Nvidia GT 240M

I've read that A: Quad Cores would be best for SC2 but also B: that clock speed makes a big difference. Between these two choices there's an obvious trade off: one has a relatively high clock speed, the other is a quad core.

Thanks.


You have probably read this review:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/blizzard-entertainment-starcraft-ii-benchmark,2611-9.html

It says that clock speed means much more than the number of cores (as long as you have at least 2 cores).
The way is made clear when viewed from above.
gedassan
Profile Joined March 2010
Lithuania83 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 10:50:00
June 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#1026
On May 26 2010 10:42 hydroxx wrote:
AMD 64 4000+
2 GB OCZ Dual Channel RAM
Geforce 7900GSOC
250+80 GB HDD's


1920x1200 32 bit color


everything else as low as possible

get about 30-40 FPS drops to 10-20 when I'm looking at a good amount of units


Looks like I've finally gotta get a new computer


My desktop:

MB: ECS KN1 LITE
AMD 64 3000+ (1,8 ghz)
2 GB DualChannel RAM
Geforce 9600 512 MB
1024x768
SC2: medium settings

I have good FPS, but sometimes the game just stops for 10-15 seconds and then continues again. This is perhaps only playable in singleplayer, as in multiplayer such pauses are detrimental.
This problem does not go away by decreasing settings to low. The bottleneck is the processor.
Edit: yeah it is a socket 939. Almost impossible to find a 4800+ processor for it now. Can always try tho

My laptop:

Lenovo 3000 n200
Intel Core 2 Duo T5450
3 GB RAM
128 MB dedicated memory GeForce 7300 (+128 MB from main memory)
1280x800
SC2: low settings

Good FPS at low setting. Playable multiplayer, although since patch 13 I have been getting the warning that my computer was slowing down the game. The bottleneck is the graphics subsystem, but also the processor is at 1,7 ghz, so it is below recommended specs.

Edit conclusion:

Blizzard did a good job of making it playable on my laptop. I will not upgrade either of my systems in a big way at the moment (maybe get an Athlon 64 x2 4400-4800 for the desktop).

It is also funny how WoW is much more graphics-reliant than SC2, because WoW runs great on the desktop, but is not a fun experience on the laptop at all.
The way is made clear when viewed from above.
hydroxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States46 Posts
June 01 2010 12:04 GMT
#1027
yeah you should definitely try to step up that processor, i'm assuming that 3000+ is s939, if its 754 or whatever the socket before 939 is you're pretty much screwed, but if you go on ebay you can find a 64x2 like 4400+ for reasonable prices, somewhere around 50 bucks



damn 939 mobos, wish i would have waited for ol am2
you might sleep, but you'll never dream
Myst-
Profile Joined May 2009
United States96 Posts
June 01 2010 15:28 GMT
#1028
On June 01 2010 14:54 StarMasterX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 23:40 DrSmoke wrote:@Star, In most cases Dell PSUs are 350-375w sometimes with the xps series they have ~450w PSUs. Either way most Dell PCs will need a new psu to run any decent graphics card.

I would suggest the 600 or 750w psu from corsair. I have one of their 750s and it is excellent.


See this is where I get confused. Most people say the Dell comps have anywhere from 350-450w psus, yet they have offerings of some power hungry cards in those same comps. How is that possible?


I'm pretty sure Dell underrates their PSU's quite a bit.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
June 01 2010 20:10 GMT
#1029
On June 02 2010 00:28 Myst- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 14:54 StarMasterX wrote:
On May 29 2010 23:40 DrSmoke wrote:@Star, In most cases Dell PSUs are 350-375w sometimes with the xps series they have ~450w PSUs. Either way most Dell PCs will need a new psu to run any decent graphics card.

I would suggest the 600 or 750w psu from corsair. I have one of their 750s and it is excellent.


See this is where I get confused. Most people say the Dell comps have anywhere from 350-450w psus, yet they have offerings of some power hungry cards in those same comps. How is that possible?


I'm pretty sure Dell underrates their PSU's quite a bit.

No the avg dell set up uses as little power for a psu as possible, when you put in a 5870 or like a 5850 thy step up the psu to like a 500w max, dell saves money this way by putting the bare minimum.
Lite.wasalreadytaken
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada42 Posts
June 02 2010 05:25 GMT
#1030
core i7 920 overclocked to 3.8 ghz
bfg gtx285 ocx
6gb @ 2000 of dominator gt
24" dell monitor

I play everything on ultra
"A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
June 03 2010 06:44 GMT
#1031
On June 01 2010 16:43 Koof wrote:
i'm looking into some laptops, and I think i've narrowed it down to two choices. which would be stronger for running sc2, all other things being equal (the processors being the bigger issue)

2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T9600
& ATI HD4650 (possibly 4670)

1.6GHz Intel Core i7-720QM
& Nvidia GT 240M

I've read that A: Quad Cores would be best for SC2 but also B: that clock speed makes a big difference. Between these two choices there's an obvious trade off: one has a relatively high clock speed, the other is a quad core.

Thanks.


I would actually go for the quad core. The i7 720QM is a quad core processor which can turboboost itself up to 2.4ghz as a dual core which should be more than enough for SC2.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
June 03 2010 07:04 GMT
#1032
depends on the gpu although it may be listed at 4650 or 240m there is a big diff between, the gddr2 version and gddr3 version etc, which has been a common kick to the crotch to the unknowing consumer for years in the laptop market.
Kaboo
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden125 Posts
June 03 2010 07:40 GMT
#1033
Im looking for input on this list below. Im trying to get the most value for money at this time I can get.

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3,4GHz Socket AM3 125W Box
MOBO: Asus M4A79XTD EVO
RAM: Corsair XMS3 DDR3 PC12800/1600MHz CL9 2x2GB DDR3
GFX: XFX Radeon HD5770 DDR5 HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 1GB
HD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 HD103SJ 32MB 1TB 3,5 tums S-ATA
POWER: Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W

Things I wonder:
Is the mobo is the best for this setup?
Is the hd is too slow to be the system disc? (Ill get ssd when it gets cheaper)
Is the ram too fast for the setup?
Is the powesupply too weak?
Will dual hd5770 work ok once I upgrade that?
Is the hd5770 the best value/performance gfx card I can get?
Would a Intel setup work better in the long run?
Whats the best case you know of, for this setup?

Thank you for giving me some insights!


Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication -Leonardo da Vinci
Razii
Profile Joined October 2008
United States88 Posts
June 03 2010 07:46 GMT
#1034
I'm running an Asus EAH5750, bought it for $140 at Fry's.
1680x1050 resolution, running on High with no problems!
I'm enjoying this card, I recommend it.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
June 03 2010 07:51 GMT
#1035
On June 03 2010 16:40 Kaboo wrote:
Im looking for input on this list below. Im trying to get the most value for money at this time I can get.

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3,4GHz Socket AM3 125W Box
MOBO: Asus M4A79XTD EVO
RAM: Corsair XMS3 DDR3 PC12800/1600MHz CL9 2x2GB DDR3
GFX: XFX Radeon HD5770 DDR5 HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 1GB
HD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 HD103SJ 32MB 1TB 3,5 tums S-ATA
POWER: Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W

Things I wonder:
Is the mobo is the best for this setup?
Is the hd is too slow to be the system disc? (Ill get ssd when it gets cheaper)
Is the ram too fast for the setup?
Is the powesupply too weak?
Will dual hd5770 work ok once I upgrade that?
Is the hd5770 the best value/performance gfx card I can get?
Would a Intel setup work better in the long run?
Whats the best case you know of, for this setup?

Thank you for giving me some insights!


Yes, that mobo will be adequate for your setup
No, the HD is not too slow. If you are planning to get a SSD, that F3 will be absolutely beautiful.
No, the RAM isn't too fast. Most AMD boards will default ram to 9-9-9-24 1333mhz or something similar.
Power Supply is more than adequate.
Yes, HD 5770 CrossFire will work
Debatable, but at your price range, it is the best. People can make a case for the 5850 @ $300 as well
Don't worry about the long run. The AM3 socket is slated for upgradability. A lot of people 'care' about upgradability, but never end up using it. No Intel sockets currently available will be upgradable past 2010.
How much are you willing to spend on a case? HAF 922 @ $90, CM 690 $60 are both decent choices.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 08:28:53
June 03 2010 08:07 GMT
#1036
Kaboo, my configuration is very similar to what you said and works fantastic.

My Components:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3,4GHz Socket AM3 125W Box
MOBO: MBO ASUS M4A79XTD EVO
RAM: RAM PC-12800, 4 GB, MUSHKIN BlackLine Stiletto, 996778st, DDR3
1600MHz
GFX: VGA PCI-E XFX ATI RADEON HD 5850 Black Edition, 1GB DDR5,
HDMI, DP, DualDVI, HDTV
HD: HDD 1000.0 GB SEAGATE, SATA, 32MB c, 7200 rpm
POWER: 650W, LC POWER Silent Giant GREEN POWER LC6650GP3
V2.3, 140mm vent

SC2 working on ultra settings with shaders on extreme perfectly smooth with a constant of 88 FPS.

Btw, M4A79XTD EVO is an excellent choice. With upgrade of BIOS it supports the latest AMD X6 processors

Edit: Default AMD CPU cooler is not the best choice (especially if you will going to overclock the processor) and i recommend Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus and at least one additional 120 mm fan for throwing out of hot air from the case.
Kaboo
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden125 Posts
June 03 2010 09:47 GMT
#1037
Thank you fragKrag and amanet both!

About the 5850 vs 5770. I can get two 5770 for one 5850 and I guess 5850 is twice as powerful also.

I wonder though where the bottleneck of this system will be? Whats optimal for sc2 in this setup? 1x5770, 2x5770, 1x5850 or 2x5850(later on)?

Will the cpu power or the gpu power be the limiting factor? At what point do the hdd rw start to feel slow? So many things to consider :/

Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication -Leonardo da Vinci
Soel
Profile Joined June 2010
90 Posts
June 03 2010 09:58 GMT
#1038
Is this a proper thread for questions?

I am buying a macbook pro for college (LOLOL MAC) and economically I am able to buy anything up to the 2200 15 incher.

Here are the following processors, I am wondering if I need the best one to play SC2 well, or if I can get the 13 inch (I like the feel of the smaller laptop, just seems sturdier, more wieldly, etc, idk)

so any input would be sweet,

13 inch 2.4 GHZ Intel Core Duo NVIDIA GeForce 320M graphics
13 inch 2.66 GHZ Intel Core Duo NVIDIA GeForce 320M graphics
15 inch 2.4 GHZ Intel Core i5 NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M with 256MB
15 inch 2.53 GHZ Intel Core i5 NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M with 256MB
15 inch 2.66 GHZ Intel Core i5 NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M with 512MB

they all have 4gb of memory.

thanks guys,
=]



relic
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom148 Posts
June 03 2010 09:59 GMT
#1039
AMD 64 3800+ (Single core)
2.5GB DDR2 Ram
8400GS 256mb PCI-E Graphics
160gb 7,200 rpm HDD
All in a Dell C521 case, with a 103watt PSU.

Plays fine at 1024x768 res on low settings, don't have any noticeable FPS slowdown, but what I do get is what an above poster mentioned, literally game just stops for up to 10-15 seconds, extremely annoying when you just spawn and cant even send your workers to mine!

I'm probably just going to upgrade to a dual core CPU, then work on saving up for a decent laptop, i'm pretty sure with any other graphics card the PSU would be a huge problem.
"machine say me he win again, but he lie"
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
June 03 2010 10:16 GMT
#1040
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W
Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel
Ram: 8GB DDR2
GPU: GeForce GTX 260 1792MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready
HD: 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
Power: 650W generic power supply
OS: Windows 7

Runs perfectly at 1920x1080 on ultra unless if I'm viewing any amount of creep, in which it drops down to a grinding 10 fps, forcing me to play on low settings..
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
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