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kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary485 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-29 09:00:15
August 29 2025 08:59 GMT
#201
On July 30 2025 06:42 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2025 06:12 BisuDagger wrote:
I’d say it’s hard to argue Serral is above Soulkey given his level of success across two games. I think comparing their greatness is a pretty good debate to be had.

Perhaps, but there’s no realistic path for Serral to be great at Brood War either. Like how would he possibly make that jump?

I’ve actually argued that a University project where you take someone like Serral and coach him to being a top BW player would be absolutely lit and bring in foreign interest at the same time.

But such a pathway doesn’t exist. Even gifted Korean talents can’t break through to ASL contention

Serral is definitely better than Soulkey in such a consideration IMO.

Serral has basically been the guy for 7 years. Soulkey had some impressive early SC2 results but went back to BW pretty quick.



Totally agree. Serral in BW is completely unrealistic. With nearly 2 million prize money won its completely illogical for him to try ASL where a 3rd place prize money is around 2k usd, second place like 7k. Even the 20k-ish prize money for the first place could not be something motivating. But even if we forget prize money, he'd have to move permanently to Korea and permantently live there. There are no big international tournaments, only Korea. And there is no guarantee he'll be as good in BW as he is in SC2. Different game might need different skillsets favourind a different playstyle. Even if he catches up with the game it might be months (if not years), until he could be a championship contender. And that is a very big if and huge uncertainty. Although not gonna lie, if for some miracle Serral starts playing BW it would blow my mind and i would 100% start watching it. But imho the chance for this happening is nearly zero.
Why so serious?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
August 29 2025 23:47 GMT
#202
On August 29 2025 17:59 kajtarp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2025 06:42 WombaT wrote:
On July 30 2025 06:12 BisuDagger wrote:
I’d say it’s hard to argue Serral is above Soulkey given his level of success across two games. I think comparing their greatness is a pretty good debate to be had.

Perhaps, but there’s no realistic path for Serral to be great at Brood War either. Like how would he possibly make that jump?

I’ve actually argued that a University project where you take someone like Serral and coach him to being a top BW player would be absolutely lit and bring in foreign interest at the same time.

But such a pathway doesn’t exist. Even gifted Korean talents can’t break through to ASL contention

Serral is definitely better than Soulkey in such a consideration IMO.

Serral has basically been the guy for 7 years. Soulkey had some impressive early SC2 results but went back to BW pretty quick.



Totally agree. Serral in BW is completely unrealistic. With nearly 2 million prize money won its completely illogical for him to try ASL where a 3rd place prize money is around 2k usd, second place like 7k. Even the 20k-ish prize money for the first place could not be something motivating. But even if we forget prize money, he'd have to move permanently to Korea and permantently live there. There are no big international tournaments, only Korea. And there is no guarantee he'll be as good in BW as he is in SC2. Different game might need different skillsets favourind a different playstyle. Even if he catches up with the game it might be months (if not years), until he could be a championship contender. And that is a very big if and huge uncertainty. Although not gonna lie, if for some miracle Serral starts playing BW it would blow my mind and i would 100% start watching it. But imho the chance for this happening is nearly zero.

Yeah I mean he doesn’t fancy moving to Korea for a GSL season, if he was to attempt such a thing it would involve a hell of a lot more time in Korea. Reynor seems to enjoy the travelling and experiencing new cultures a lot more, maybe he’d be your man.

It would be hella fun if you had some top players coaching someone like him, ofc you’d need a translator as well. But it’d need a setup like that, like a project

You could probably get a real top SC2 player, or a top BW foreigner to at least qualify for ASL, which would be fun. Exceedingly, exceedingly unlikely to ever happen, but would be hype!
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