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Oliveira/TIME retires

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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
January 06 2025 15:44 GMT
#1
Announced in a simple post on his own private social account.

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The 24 years old Chinese Terran is the most decorated Chinese StarCraft pro player of all time, winning China's historical first and only StarCraft world championship title at IEM Katowice 2023, alongside a multitude of regional wins and high premier event finishes.

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Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
861 Posts
January 06 2025 15:51 GMT
#2
Sick last game against Clem.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1726 Posts
January 06 2025 16:02 GMT
#3
Can't say I didn't see it coming. Thank you for all the great games over the years. Your IEM Katowice win was incredible.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1726 Posts
January 06 2025 16:03 GMT
#4
With smart investments you can be set for life with a million, well I don't know about China but in the US certainly take half of that or even 3/4 and invest it in some index funds and watch it grow year by year and live off 250k and you can liquify the yearly profits and have a constant slew of money.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1375 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-06 16:20:35
January 06 2025 16:20 GMT
#5
woops wrong topic

best of luck to him
mada mada dane
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1178 Posts
January 06 2025 16:40 GMT
#6
Oliveira had such an amazing career story line. He wasn't a "Wunderkind" like Maru, who won it all with 13. He wasn't like Serral, the guy who smashed everyone the second he went fulltime Pro.
Most of the time, Oliveira was just "there". Slowly progressing through the years, becoming the best player in China, then in Asia-Pacific. Always in the discussion, but never the guy you would name in that elusive S-Tier of Serral, Maru and Reynor.
And then he just swoops in and takes the World Championships. Sure, he was supercharged by the universal law that Maru isn't allowed to win a World Cup, but even beyond that, it was one of the greatest upset wins in Starcraft history.

Such a great story, such an amazing player.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
ReZero
Profile Joined April 2019
United Kingdom29 Posts
January 06 2025 16:42 GMT
#7
Sad

With the decrease in StarCraft 2 events, more and more pro-gamer will have to face the situation of retirement.

GL GG.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1726 Posts
January 06 2025 17:58 GMT
#8
On January 07 2025 01:42 ReZero wrote:
Sad

With the decrease in StarCraft 2 events, more and more pro-gamer will have to face the situation of retirement.

GL GG.

I agree with the general sentiment, but at the moment it isnt just a decrease, there isn't a single tournament on the horizon. no tour, no world cup, no big sponsors. the only tournaments are going to be a few thousand prize pool max. we are truly in a grass roots era now.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-06 19:15:24
January 06 2025 19:09 GMT
#9
Damn, I guess that explains the bleh performances in his last few events. Unfortunate as it is, players almost never get to go out at the top of their abilities in SC2 (or any sport).

Still, if Stara Zagora was the last 'real' tournament for him, that was a damn fine showing. Thanks for all the memories, including the greatest single run in SC2 history.

On January 07 2025 02:58 CicadaSC wrote:
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On January 07 2025 01:42 ReZero wrote:
Sad

With the decrease in StarCraft 2 events, more and more pro-gamer will have to face the situation of retirement.

GL GG.

I agree with the general sentiment, but at the moment it isnt just a decrease, there isn't a single tournament on the horizon. no tour, no world cup, no big sponsors. the only tournaments are going to be a few thousand prize pool max. we are truly in a grass roots era now.


We'll see what the 'real' amount of money in the scene is if ESL officially announces there's no EPT going forward. Right now, people are still in standby mode, but remember that GSL easily got $40k per season for several years. Once it's clear that the scene is on its own, then we'll see the real moves to reorganize the scene and fundraise in the new environment.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
January 06 2025 19:19 GMT
#10
Bit surprised he didn't wait another few days to finalize his decision. Isn't EWC announcing a few more games for this year's tournament circuit? Would make sense to wait a bit more to see whether SC2 is truly dead or not.
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
386 Posts
January 06 2025 22:32 GMT
#11
Aww, man!

GG to the man, he leaves an incredible story behind and if that wasn't worth it (... and all the money for him, but hey, fame outlasts wealth!) I don't know what is.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25342 Posts
January 07 2025 00:43 GMT
#12
On January 07 2025 04:19 geokilla wrote:
Bit surprised he didn't wait another few days to finalize his decision. Isn't EWC announcing a few more games for this year's tournament circuit? Would make sense to wait a bit more to see whether SC2 is truly dead or not.

From what I read it wouldn’t sway him either way, he’s wanting to do other things, and fair enough.

He’s climbed Everest already, unless he did something insane like win a WC off-racing I mean he’s never topping that miracle run, even if he won another.

Some folks are wired to keep climbing Everest over and over again, some folks are happy hitting the peak once and want to do something else. It’s what separates a Ronaldinho from a Ronaldo or a Messi, the former was perhaps the most gifted footballer I’ve ever seen but he became the best player in the world and a few years of that and he was done.

As an aside the scenario at the minute is a complete shit show. Be you a pro or a community organiser we’re talking months and months of uncertainty in either direction.

The former I mean it’s their livliehood and a straight yes no on an EWC, or IMO more importantly a wider circuit being confirmed or denied would be common courtesy. IF that’s not happening the community can’t pivot to something like the WC3 scene or what you see in BW because who’s going to put in all that legwork if there’s a possibility a regular circuit/EWC pops up and pisses all over your parade.

I don’t understand why this doesn’t seem to piss more people off, folks bitched incessantly about Blizzard, moaned incessantly about the Balance CouncilTM, etc etc, years of ‘daedgaem’ doom mongering.

Unless there’s some giant about-turn that makes me look silly, SC2 as we know it on the pro level is going to die in a fraction of the time Blizz and the ESL under previous ownership kept it going.

It’s almost like having all your eggs in the Saudi Arabian sports washing basket isn’t a good spot to be in

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States832 Posts
January 07 2025 03:09 GMT
#13
On January 07 2025 09:43 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2025 04:19 geokilla wrote:
Bit surprised he didn't wait another few days to finalize his decision. Isn't EWC announcing a few more games for this year's tournament circuit? Would make sense to wait a bit more to see whether SC2 is truly dead or not.

It’s almost like having all your eggs in the Saudi Arabian sports washing basket isn’t a good spot to be in

What!? Thats crazy talk.

In all seriousness, great career, absolute miracle run, beating what was it Reynor, herO and Maru in the top 8? Probably my favorite underdog story ever, and maybe my favorite tourney run
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
lepricon1992
Profile Joined July 2019
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-07 03:15:05
January 07 2025 03:14 GMT
#14
On January 07 2025 01:03 CicadaSC wrote:
With smart investments you can be set for life with a million, well I don't know about China but in the US certainly take half of that or even 3/4 and invest it in some index funds and watch it grow year by year and live off 250k and you can liquify the yearly profits and have a constant slew of money.



A quick story: Olivera might be one of the wealthiest sc2 players. His has a wealthy family (rumor has it his father is an investor in real estate development). When he first started his professional career, he was already getting a million RMB in allowance from his family each year so he doesn't have to worry about making a living.
hfsrj
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany166 Posts
January 07 2025 08:09 GMT
#15
Sad :'(
DevilDriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany77 Posts
January 07 2025 08:34 GMT
#16
Breaks my heart a bit, but well, good luck Oliveira with the next thing on your roadmap!
AlexZhang1012
Profile Joined June 2019
63 Posts
January 07 2025 10:11 GMT
#17
GG Oliveira. The man who fulfilled the dream of every Chinese starcraft fan. It's TIME to be your own hero.
craigwt320
Profile Joined July 2019
8 Posts
January 07 2025 10:33 GMT
#18
According to his explanation, he is tired of waiting for EWC’s announcements. He believes that even if SC2 were eventually on EWC's list, the pro ecosystem would return to a state of uncertainty six months later. He hopes his career goal is clear, rather than constantly being changed by external circumstances.

Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain880 Posts
January 07 2025 21:21 GMT
#19
On January 07 2025 19:33 craigwt320 wrote:
According to his explanation, he is tired of waiting for EWC’s announcements. He believes that even if SC2 were eventually on EWC's list, the pro ecosystem would return to a state of uncertainty six months later. He hopes his career goal is clear, rather than constantly being changed by external circumstances.


This makes a lot of sense.
GG Oliveira!
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
January 07 2025 21:34 GMT
#20
On January 07 2025 19:33 craigwt320 wrote:
According to his explanation, he is tired of waiting for EWC’s announcements. He believes that even if SC2 were eventually on EWC's list, the pro ecosystem would return to a state of uncertainty six months later. He hopes his career goal is clear, rather than constantly being changed by external circumstances.



Well, in that case we can hope it's like many previous 'retirements' and he's just going inactive for now, but is open to coming back if the situation changes.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1894 Posts
January 12 2025 17:37 GMT
#21
Can't blame people leaving SC2/looking elsewhere, especially when you still have some years left in the tank to adjust to another game, best of luck to him.
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
January 14 2025 23:03 GMT
#22
Thanks to TIME for all the amazing SC2. I really admired him and his passion to full send every game in big tournaments, taking down (or pushing to the brink) players that were considered heavyweight favorites against him. He reminded me of ByuN, not in his playstyle, but in his energy and success through sheer willpower. He was someone easy to root for because he simply loved SC2 and wore his heart on his sleeve.

Happy retirement to the best player China ever produced, and good luck in the future!
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
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