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SC2 at Esports World Cup to have $1m prize pool - Page 4

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frustratedsc2user
Profile Joined March 2024
10 Posts
May 02 2024 04:46 GMT
#61
Will Serral be able to play? 100%
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25033 Posts
May 02 2024 06:20 GMT
#62
Silly prize pool IMO but hey, interested to see how it’s distributed.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4175 Posts
May 02 2024 07:14 GMT
#63
Insane prizepool confirmed, huh? Well.. I hope for some really good and tough format then. But not holding my breath, considering the organizer.. :3
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10325 Posts
May 02 2024 20:09 GMT
#64
This is awesome, sad that Creator most definitely won't make it this time...

Idk about Bo9 though. Sounds like too many games, too much fatigue, very little chance of a close series. Bo7 is already plenty. I get that it's a huge huge prize pool, but Bo7 is already enough games to try your best on. Playing like 8-9 games is just a really long time.

If it's on separate days though then it'll be more OK.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25033 Posts
May 02 2024 21:35 GMT
#65
On May 03 2024 05:09 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
This is awesome, sad that Creator most definitely won't make it this time...

Idk about Bo9 though. Sounds like too many games, too much fatigue, very little chance of a close series. Bo7 is already plenty. I get that it's a huge huge prize pool, but Bo7 is already enough games to try your best on. Playing like 8-9 games is just a really long time.

If it's on separate days though then it'll be more OK.

I feel my main issue is I can’t think of a single map pool that doesn’t have a few terribly balanced maps that are basically default vetos,

Even in Bo7 they sometimes creep in as it is
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10325 Posts
May 02 2024 22:27 GMT
#66
On May 03 2024 06:35 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2024 05:09 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
This is awesome, sad that Creator most definitely won't make it this time...

Idk about Bo9 though. Sounds like too many games, too much fatigue, very little chance of a close series. Bo7 is already plenty. I get that it's a huge huge prize pool, but Bo7 is already enough games to try your best on. Playing like 8-9 games is just a really long time.

If it's on separate days though then it'll be more OK.

I feel my main issue is I can’t think of a single map pool that doesn’t have a few terribly balanced maps that are basically default vetos,

Even in Bo7 they sometimes creep in as it is


Come to think of it, if the maps are bad for zerg then the longer series and more whacky counterpick maps might balance out decently
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Drahkn
Profile Joined June 2021
190 Posts
May 03 2024 17:11 GMT
#67
This means the level of SC2 we are going to get to see in the near future is going to be off the chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain , every guy who got a chance at that amount of money is gonna work their ass of to be in tip top shape
Sentikoret
Profile Joined July 2019
20 Posts
May 03 2024 19:56 GMT
#68
Come to think of it, if the maps are bad for zerg then the longer series and more whacky counterpick maps might balance out decently


Zergs on this patch were 0 out of top 4 last GSL, 0 in the entirety of Asia playoffs, currently 1/6 in EU and AM playoffs.
What exactly should be balanced out?
Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany152 Posts
May 04 2024 01:59 GMT
#69
On May 04 2024 04:56 Sentikoret wrote:
Show nested quote +
Come to think of it, if the maps are bad for zerg then the longer series and more whacky counterpick maps might balance out decently


Zergs on this patch were 0 out of top 4 last GSL, 0 in the entirety of Asia playoffs, currently 1/6 in EU and AM playoffs.
What exactly should be balanced out?




Exactly my thoughts... Neither BO9, nor actual mappool or balance patch is favouring Zerg tbh if we look at the last results.

IIrc there are 2 Zerg left in the ESL Regional Spring Masters, 1 is in the global Spring Masters Event from last GSL season.

There's a decent chance that Serral and Dark will be the only Zerg to qualify for EWC, maybe Solar will slip in via EPT Korea Standings, but I doubt Reynor will make it, expecially since he's splitting his engagement (and points) between Korea and EU Standings.

So unless Serral can stay in top form despite his military duty, I don't see any Zerg with high chances for making a top four run at the EWC.
lokol4890
Profile Joined May 2023
108 Posts
May 04 2024 02:48 GMT
#70
On May 04 2024 10:59 Tommy131313 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2024 04:56 Sentikoret wrote:
Come to think of it, if the maps are bad for zerg then the longer series and more whacky counterpick maps might balance out decently


Zergs on this patch were 0 out of top 4 last GSL, 0 in the entirety of Asia playoffs, currently 1/6 in EU and AM playoffs.
What exactly should be balanced out?




Exactly my thoughts... Neither BO9, nor actual mappool or balance patch is favouring Zerg tbh if we look at the last results.

IIrc there are 2 Zerg left in the ESL Regional Spring Masters, 1 is in the global Spring Masters Event from last GSL season.

There's a decent chance that Serral and Dark will be the only Zerg to qualify for EWC, maybe Solar will slip in via EPT Korea Standings, but I doubt Reynor will make it, expecially since he's splitting his engagement (and points) between Korea and EU Standings.

So unless Serral can stay in top form despite his military duty, I don't see any Zerg with high chances for making a top four run at the EWC.


How would reynor splitting engagement make a difference? There are open sign ups for esl spring. Almost guaranteed he makes it in. And if he gets top 4 there, he makes ewc. For all the talk about ewc, there are currently only 5 players qualified.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3343 Posts
May 04 2024 04:12 GMT
#71
Barring a disaster run in Dallas, Reynor should qualify through the EPT EU standing, given that MaxPax not playing offline and I dont think both Spirit and HM can catch up to him.

JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4400 Posts
May 04 2024 05:24 GMT
#72
On May 04 2024 10:59 Tommy131313 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2024 04:56 Sentikoret wrote:
Come to think of it, if the maps are bad for zerg then the longer series and more whacky counterpick maps might balance out decently


Zergs on this patch were 0 out of top 4 last GSL, 0 in the entirety of Asia playoffs, currently 1/6 in EU and AM playoffs.
What exactly should be balanced out?




Exactly my thoughts... Neither BO9, nor actual mappool or balance patch is favouring Zerg tbh if we look at the last results.

IIrc there are 2 Zerg left in the ESL Regional Spring Masters, 1 is in the global Spring Masters Event from last GSL season.

There's a decent chance that Serral and Dark will be the only Zerg to qualify for EWC, maybe Solar will slip in via EPT Korea Standings, but I doubt Reynor will make it, expecially since he's splitting his engagement (and points) between Korea and EU Standings.

So unless Serral can stay in top form despite his military duty, I don't see any Zerg with high chances for making a top four run at the EWC.


What the heck is this lol. Solar and Reynor are 100% guaranteed to be there. You realize that besides the spots from Dallas and the literally only 2 open qualifier spots, the global and regional standings are the final deciders right? Even Ragnarok is nearly guaranteed making it considering that the top 4 of Dallas will most likely be at least 3 players who are already qualified and then those extra slots will just get added to the global standings.

I think the only way Ragnarok doesn't go is if someone below him passes him in points (which seems unlikely as he's 200 points ahead of the person below him and that person is Bunny who didn't qualify for GSL) or if someone who is currently below him takes a top 4 at Dallas. That's pretty unlikely. I guess I could see someone like Showtime, Stats, DRG, or creator do that with some type of miracle run but seems very unlikely. If the top 4 of Dallas are all players who are currently above him then he's guaranteed to make it as long as Maxpax forfeits his slot as expected.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4400 Posts
May 04 2024 05:47 GMT
#73
I've been looking at the standings for a while and I'm struggling to even create a fake scenario where Reynor doesn't qualify. The amount of things that would.have to go wrong for Reynor to not qualify through global stands is completely insane. Even if he loses every match between now and EWC he will still be there with nigh 100% likelihood. The only ways he doesn't qualify through global standings involves scenarios where Maxpax plays offline, the entire top 4 at Dallas is players who are current not top 16 in EPT rankings, and both heromarine and spirit pass him in points. I don't know that it's possible for those things to happen at the same time because heromarine and spirit would likely need points from Dallas to pass him.

It's not even an opinion thing it's just objectively wrong (and balance whining for the race that's won $3mil more than the other 2) to say Reynor won't qualify.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4175 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-04 07:52:53
May 04 2024 07:52 GMT
#74
oh, the format is known already I see

well.. could have been better and more gruelling, but also could have been much worse (i've seen much worse).

it's.. decent. that's my opinion.
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zelevin
Profile Joined January 2012
United States255 Posts
May 04 2024 13:36 GMT
#75
very happy about this tournament format
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1199 Posts
May 04 2024 13:47 GMT
#76
I wouldn't worry too much for Zerg at this point. If the game were perfectly balanced, we'd still expect Zerg to struggle for a bit after a new patch/map pool. That, combined with the best player (who is Zerg) being inactive means Zerg has bad results atm.

Also the world cup is far enough away that if 1-2 months from now Zerg is still struggling there will probably be minor alterations to the map pool, and all the best Zerg (Serral, Reynor, Solar, Dark, Rag) will already have qualified anyways.

Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10325 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-04 14:42:57
May 04 2024 14:39 GMT
#77
Would have been really weird if it was that hard for Solar and Reynor to make it in, glad it seems they have a solid path

For Creator, I'm very sad he probably won't make it. But maybe he can make Top 6-8 at Dallas and then qualify that way.
Oh wait, if Creator can get 5th-6th in GSL, he could get 300 EPT Korea points and be about just 23 under SHIN. So if he does decently at Spring Masters and gets Top 16 again, he could actually make it I guess!
5th-6th sounds hard for GSL but he's in Top 8 already, just needs to win 1 match and not be last in his group. Though he'd need to beat someone like Byun, Solar, or Reynor which won't be easy unless he can bring his A game.

If he gets Top 4, then he might be set.
It may be hard for him though because there probably won't be many Zergs to face in Ro8.

It's nice that these points are so important, really helps keep the stakes for tournies like GSL. I guess that's a big part of why Creator was so relieved he made it out, not for the money but for the EPT points. Qualifying for EWC would be such a huge amount of money. I really want him to make it!
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33339 Posts
June 13 2024 18:27 GMT
#78
prize split announced

AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden695 Posts
June 13 2024 18:31 GMT
#79
jfc 400k för #1
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-13 18:37:51
June 13 2024 18:36 GMT
#80
I guess Serral is about to buy another house.

I was not entertaining much hopes the prize pool would be split in a more reasonable way but still it's a shame. At least it's gonna create plenty of drama!
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