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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10373 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-25 08:58:13
April 25 2023 08:55 GMT
#21
On April 25 2023 17:09 bgfztztrhfeqw wrote:
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On April 24 2023 13:39 Blargh wrote:
On April 24 2023 08:53 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
Jamal Khashoggi was assassinated and hacked into small pieces inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on 2 October 2018 by agents of the Saudi government, which ensured the real perpetrators were never investigated or punished.

The Saudi governmemt does not recognize LGBTQ+ people as human beings and is a prolific human rights violator.

Gamers8 and other esports events are sportswashing investments by the Saudi government in an attempt to overshadow its horrific human rights abuses.

Yeah but all the non-Saudi money is coming from China! What are we supposed to do about that!!

The reality is that almost everything you consume, whether it be media or competitive video games that are past their prime, it's probably owned / run by some shitty person. You favorite sports team: shitty person owns it.

If you want, you can still consume this content and still shit on Saudi Arabia. They aren't mutually exclusive! And what's great is that, given how completely unprofitable SC2 is, it's almost guaranteed they're losing money on it. So if everyone still hates SA after the event, and we got a free BW/SC2 tournament out of it, then we come out okay..!

"Completely unprofitable"? If its so "completely unprofitable", why are there still events popping up?

Kung Fu Cup $1500 Weeklies
Wardi with a $10000 tournaments, Wardi doing weeklys
[WTL 2023] $87000
Korean Starcraft Leagaue $400 Weekly

Just to name a few. Are they just enjoying losing money? Or are they doing that out of courtesy?


They're doing it out of passion and receiving funding from crowdfunding and sponsors. It doesn't mean they're making profits, or not enough to do it for a living. It also doesn't mean that sponsors make enough value back for their investments.

On April 24 2023 08:53 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:


So should we also avoid US tournaments, and any country that has committed war crimes and human rights violations? If you think so, then I'm fine with your view.
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hgfrtuuirzqa
Profile Joined April 2023
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-25 09:14:54
April 25 2023 09:09 GMT
#22
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mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
April 25 2023 10:38 GMT
#23
Are they just enjoying losing money? Or are they doing that out of courtesy?


The saudis want the PR boost, plus maybe some of the higher-ups likes to watch e-sports.

Community tournaments like the wardiTV tournaments, Scboy events and other third-party sponsored smaller events are mostly to promote the sc2 ecosystem. They are "losing" money to support the players, sure, but if the scene is dead then they all lose their jobs.
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Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
April 25 2023 10:49 GMT
#24
On April 25 2023 17:55 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
So should we also avoid US tournaments, and any country that has committed war crimes and human rights violations? If you think so, then I'm fine with your view.


A similar question came up in a previous thread about Gamers8. Personally, I try to avoid events sponsored by organisations lilke U.S. Army Esports for example. I still enjoy watching World Team League because SCboy is not the Communist Party of China.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
April 25 2023 17:29 GMT
#25
How good is spirit looking lately? He's been dominating online play recently. Is he on Clem and heromarines level now?
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3495 Posts
April 25 2023 17:39 GMT
#26
I would say hes more on HM level at the moment in term of the build and sharp timing. Basically you have to really beat him straight up, cant just expect him to roll over and die because of some bad mistake. From the Wardi tournament today, I do feel that Byun and Solar under-estimated him and did some pretty bad fight that allow Spirit to just get ahead and snowball it later.
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