How do we measure GOATs without Korean SC2? - Page 12

Glorfindelio

222 Posts

May 22 2023 22:01 GMT

#221

It's actually pretty cool that Serral and Maru are still crushing as SC2 nears its proverbial endgame. I'm sure others will argue for their respective merits against endlessly, but I'm 100% convinced that they both represent peak SC2 even all these years later, both in skill and consistency, judging by their recent runs.

JJH777

United States4415 Posts

May 23 2023 00:25 GMT

#222

The head to head argument is silly in the context of a goat discussion because it's completely irrelevant. All head to head measures is their skill level vs each other on a few specific days. Especially for Maru and Serral given that they always dodge each other. Overall achievement is the only thing that matters. Maru and Dark are 50-50 against each other. Maru is a goat candidate and Dark isn't. That's because Maru has won way more important events. The same applies to the Maru and Serral comparison.

To go to a more extreme example. If there was a hypothetical player who won 20 high prestige premiers with all the best players from 2010 to 2017 but then became terrible and lost to Serral everytime they played him for 5 years straight and didn't take a single map that player would still easily be the goat over Serral until Serral wins 20 premiers with all the best players present. Current skill or skill against a single player is irrelevant.

tigera6

3478 Posts

May 23 2023 06:28 GMT

#223

On May 23 2023 07:01 Glorfindelio wrote:
It's actually pretty cool that Serral and Maru are still crushing as SC2 nears its proverbial endgame. I'm sure others will argue for their respective merits against endlessly, but I'm 100% convinced that they both represent peak SC2 even all these years later, both in skill and consistency, judging by their recent runs.

Like I said, the world is a better place when Maru running GSL and Serral running the WCS/ESL circuit. Then we will have them missing each other and both get eliminated at some point during the global tournament :D

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