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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6900 Posts
August 03 2022 07:16 GMT
#41
On August 03 2022 03:30 CynicalDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2022 03:06 Schelim wrote:
gonna be real interesting how he does in GSL format and how the Koreans will handle having him around

any info on where/how he'll live? is the foreigner team house still a thing?



They need a Terran there. Let's go Clem!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2214 Posts
August 03 2022 08:11 GMT
#42
Exciting!
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12792 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-03 08:56:38
August 03 2022 08:56 GMT
#43
Very exciting news . He is probably the favorite to win it all alongside Rogue, herO, Dark and Maru, anything other than ro6+ would be a disappointment
WriterMaru
pandorasheep
Profile Joined February 2022
73 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-03 11:25:21
August 03 2022 11:22 GMT
#44
Nice! Glad to see Reynor stepping up to be an actual legit player. Unlike some people call "GOAT" but is way to scared to play with the big boys in GSL main season. You honestly can't call someone a GOAT if they've never even attempted or expressed the desire to play in GSL main season. I can see Clem one day trying at GSL main season as well. Can't see any other foreigner attempt this as they aren't good enough to play in GSL.

Rooting for Reynor! One of the few legit non-Korean players out there!
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-03 11:45:39
August 03 2022 11:40 GMT
#45
On August 03 2022 20:22 pandorasheep wrote:
Nice! Glad to see Reynor stepping up to be an actual legit player. Unlike some people call "GOAT" but is way to scared to play with the big boys in GSL main season. You honestly can't call someone a GOAT if they've never even attempted or expressed the desire to play in GSL main season. I can see Clem one day trying at GSL main season as well. Can't see any other foreigner attempt this as they aren't good enough to play in GSL.

Rooting for Reynor! One of the few legit non-Korean players out there!


Shots fired at Serral there, but I do have to agree. He doesn't seem to have the will to do what Neeb, Scarlet, Astrea, Special in the past and now Reynor will do and compete at Code S with the intent of going as far as possible if not outright winning it. But hey, it's an easier road for titles and prize money for him to beat up non-koreans than to face actual Koreans in a domestic tourney over several weeks.

Reynor is a true competitor and even goes out of his comfort zone by joining a Chinese Team just to compete at WTL, even offraces as Toss on open cups and major/premiere tourneys and now is going to Korea for Code S.
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 03 2022 12:19 GMT
#46
I wouldn't be quite so harsh to Serral, there's many reasons not to move to Korea for months. But of course I'd love to see it too.

It seems to me Reynor may be a bit bored and is looking to shake things up for himself. Joining a Chinese team, off racing in tournaments, now going to Korea and playing GSL...
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25076 Posts
August 03 2022 14:33 GMT
#47
On August 03 2022 20:22 pandorasheep wrote:
Nice! Glad to see Reynor stepping up to be an actual legit player. Unlike some people call "GOAT" but is way to scared to play with the big boys in GSL main season. You honestly can't call someone a GOAT if they've never even attempted or expressed the desire to play in GSL main season. I can see Clem one day trying at GSL main season as well. Can't see any other foreigner attempt this as they aren't good enough to play in GSL.

Rooting for Reynor! One of the few legit non-Korean players out there!

Nonsense, ask the Koreans if they think Serral is a legit player or not…

It’s cool to see Reynor give it a shot, it’d be cool to see others give it a shot too but why turn something cool into a barb to bash other players?

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3099 Posts
August 03 2022 14:56 GMT
#48
Yeah, I don't think this is a knock against Serral in itself. Korea is no longer assumed 100% better than the rest of the world, and GSL is no longer the most prestigious tournament. Plus things have merged a lot back since the days of total region lock, so Serral plays the top Koreans pretty regularly at this point anyway. And from interviews they very much respect & fear him, seemingly more than any other foreigner.

Of course Korea is still one of the strongest regions, and if it's not the absolute top GSL is still one of the 2-3 most prestigious tournaments in the scene, and would be even more prestigious for a foreigner who managed to overcome the logistical and cultural hurdles. If Reynor actually wins a GSL in Korea it would be a huge boost to his status as a player. I imagine that's why he's doing it, other than the chance to improve and his general drive to compete and try things and keep himself interested.
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pandorasheep
Profile Joined February 2022
73 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-03 15:36:41
August 03 2022 15:34 GMT
#49
On August 03 2022 23:33 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2022 20:22 pandorasheep wrote:
Nice! Glad to see Reynor stepping up to be an actual legit player. Unlike some people call "GOAT" but is way to scared to play with the big boys in GSL main season. You honestly can't call someone a GOAT if they've never even attempted or expressed the desire to play in GSL main season. I can see Clem one day trying at GSL main season as well. Can't see any other foreigner attempt this as they aren't good enough to play in GSL.

Rooting for Reynor! One of the few legit non-Korean players out there!

Nonsense, ask the Koreans if they think Serral is a legit player or not…

It’s cool to see Reynor give it a shot, it’d be cool to see others give it a shot too but why turn something cool into a barb to bash other players?



Have you ever heard of optics? Things are way different from back then when Huk or MC or Idra would shit talk other players. Things are way too PC for any player to admit that they think Serral is a bad player. They say they respect him, but only for image sake. I'd love to hear what's in their actual mind.

Anyway, I was congratulating Reynor but some how people here is making this article about Serral.

On August 03 2022 23:56 Captain Peabody wrote:
Yeah, I don't think this is a knock against Serral in itself. Korea is no longer assumed 100% better than the rest of the world, and GSL is no longer the most prestigious tournament. Plus things have merged a lot back since the days of total region lock, so Serral plays the top Koreans pretty regularly at this point anyway. And from interviews they very much respect & fear him, seemingly more than any other foreigner.

Of course Korea is still one of the strongest regions, and if it's not the absolute top GSL is still one of the 2-3 most prestigious tournaments in the scene, and would be even more prestigious for a foreigner who managed to overcome the logistical and cultural hurdles. If Reynor actually wins a GSL in Korea it would be a huge boost to his status as a player. I imagine that's why he's doing it, other than the chance to improve and his general drive to compete and try things and keep himself interested.


I think even you know that playing in a month long league is different and requires actual skill compared to weekend tournaments like HSC
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2022 19:38 GMT
#50
2022 Overall game score
Serral 7-3 Maru
Serral 2-0 Dark
Serral 7-2 Rogue
Serral 0-1 herO
Total 16-6

If Koreans didn't fear Serral, then they'd be very foolish.

Reynor 4-7 Maru
Reynor 3-2 Dark
Reynor 1-0 Rogue
Reynor 3-2 herO
Total 11-11

They should definitely fear Reynor too, though. Looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1201 Posts
August 03 2022 19:46 GMT
#51
On August 04 2022 04:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
2022 Overall game score
Serral 7-3 Maru
Serral 2-0 Dark
Serral 7-2 Rogue
Serral 0-1 herO
Total 16-6

If Koreans didn't fear Serral, then they'd be very foolish.

Reynor 4-7 Maru
Reynor 3-2 Dark
Reynor 1-0 Rogue
Reynor 3-2 herO
Total 11-11

They should definitely fear Reynor too, though. Looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table

No you see, some of those matches were in totally unimportant tournaments like IEM Katowice so Serral isn't a legit player.

As for Reynor's chances I'm sort of pessimistic just because GSL is such a different format from what Reynor's used to. He's even said in interviews that he doesn't do much prep for opponents, which may be fine in weekenders (even there I think it hurts him some), but that definitely won't fly in GSL. His baseline skill might be good enough for a deep run, but without some adjustments I doubt he can win.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25076 Posts
August 03 2022 20:51 GMT
#52
On August 04 2022 04:46 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2022 04:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
2022 Overall game score
Serral 7-3 Maru
Serral 2-0 Dark
Serral 7-2 Rogue
Serral 0-1 herO
Total 16-6

If Koreans didn't fear Serral, then they'd be very foolish.

Reynor 4-7 Maru
Reynor 3-2 Dark
Reynor 1-0 Rogue
Reynor 3-2 herO
Total 11-11

They should definitely fear Reynor too, though. Looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table

No you see, some of those matches were in totally unimportant tournaments like IEM Katowice so Serral isn't a legit player.

As for Reynor's chances I'm sort of pessimistic just because GSL is such a different format from what Reynor's used to. He's even said in interviews that he doesn't do much prep for opponents, which may be fine in weekenders (even there I think it hurts him some), but that definitely won't fly in GSL. His baseline skill might be good enough for a deep run, but without some adjustments I doubt he can win.

I think if he can make playoffs he’ll have a good bit of space for decent prep and planning.

It’s probably the group phases that might prove tricky in that regard, and where Reynor may hope to get through mostly on his general level.

But yeah I largely agree, I think it’s partly why he’s doing this, to push himself out of his comfort zone a bit and develop that planning aspect as a player.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
pandorasheep
Profile Joined February 2022
73 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-04 03:54:24
August 04 2022 03:54 GMT
#53
On August 04 2022 04:46 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2022 04:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
2022 Overall game score
Serral 7-3 Maru
Serral 2-0 Dark
Serral 7-2 Rogue
Serral 0-1 herO
Total 16-6

If Koreans didn't fear Serral, then they'd be very foolish.

Reynor 4-7 Maru
Reynor 3-2 Dark
Reynor 1-0 Rogue
Reynor 3-2 herO
Total 11-11

They should definitely fear Reynor too, though. Looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table

No you see, some of those matches were in totally unimportant tournaments like IEM Katowice so Serral isn't a legit player.

As for Reynor's chances I'm sort of pessimistic just because GSL is such a different format from what Reynor's used to. He's even said in interviews that he doesn't do much prep for opponents, which may be fine in weekenders (even there I think it hurts him some), but that definitely won't fly in GSL. His baseline skill might be good enough for a deep run, but without some adjustments I doubt he can win.


I think you are HEAVILY underestimating jetlag
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3356 Posts
August 04 2022 04:03 GMT
#54
On August 04 2022 05:51 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2022 04:46 dysenterymd wrote:
On August 04 2022 04:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
2022 Overall game score
Serral 7-3 Maru
Serral 2-0 Dark
Serral 7-2 Rogue
Serral 0-1 herO
Total 16-6

If Koreans didn't fear Serral, then they'd be very foolish.

Reynor 4-7 Maru
Reynor 3-2 Dark
Reynor 1-0 Rogue
Reynor 3-2 herO
Total 11-11

They should definitely fear Reynor too, though. Looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table

No you see, some of those matches were in totally unimportant tournaments like IEM Katowice so Serral isn't a legit player.

As for Reynor's chances I'm sort of pessimistic just because GSL is such a different format from what Reynor's used to. He's even said in interviews that he doesn't do much prep for opponents, which may be fine in weekenders (even there I think it hurts him some), but that definitely won't fly in GSL. His baseline skill might be good enough for a deep run, but without some adjustments I doubt he can win.

I think if he can make playoffs he’ll have a good bit of space for decent prep and planning.

It’s probably the group phases that might prove tricky in that regard, and where Reynor may hope to get through mostly on his general level.

But yeah I largely agree, I think it’s partly why he’s doing this, to push himself out of his comfort zone a bit and develop that planning aspect as a player.

I think someone mentioned it before, but what also working against Reynor is the seeding. He might be in the same group with one of the 3 Dark-Maru-herO, Rogue is probably a seed in Ro20 as well. Throw in another player like Cure/Solar/Ragnarok in that group and its quite tricky for Reynor to get out of the group.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
524 Posts
August 04 2022 04:51 GMT
#55
On August 04 2022 12:54 pandorasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2022 04:46 dysenterymd wrote:
On August 04 2022 04:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
2022 Overall game score
Serral 7-3 Maru
Serral 2-0 Dark
Serral 7-2 Rogue
Serral 0-1 herO
Total 16-6

If Koreans didn't fear Serral, then they'd be very foolish.

Reynor 4-7 Maru
Reynor 3-2 Dark
Reynor 1-0 Rogue
Reynor 3-2 herO
Total 11-11

They should definitely fear Reynor too, though. Looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table

No you see, some of those matches were in totally unimportant tournaments like IEM Katowice so Serral isn't a legit player.

As for Reynor's chances I'm sort of pessimistic just because GSL is such a different format from what Reynor's used to. He's even said in interviews that he doesn't do much prep for opponents, which may be fine in weekenders (even there I think it hurts him some), but that definitely won't fly in GSL. His baseline skill might be good enough for a deep run, but without some adjustments I doubt he can win.


I think you are HEAVILY underestimating jetlag

Serral must be a superhuman as he has defeated koreans AND jet lag in GSL vs the world -tournaments. Or does jet lag only for when traveling from Korea to Europe?
pandorasheep
Profile Joined February 2022
73 Posts
August 04 2022 05:43 GMT
#56
On August 04 2022 13:51 HeroSandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2022 12:54 pandorasheep wrote:
On August 04 2022 04:46 dysenterymd wrote:
On August 04 2022 04:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
2022 Overall game score
Serral 7-3 Maru
Serral 2-0 Dark
Serral 7-2 Rogue
Serral 0-1 herO
Total 16-6

If Koreans didn't fear Serral, then they'd be very foolish.

Reynor 4-7 Maru
Reynor 3-2 Dark
Reynor 1-0 Rogue
Reynor 3-2 herO
Total 11-11

They should definitely fear Reynor too, though. Looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table

No you see, some of those matches were in totally unimportant tournaments like IEM Katowice so Serral isn't a legit player.

As for Reynor's chances I'm sort of pessimistic just because GSL is such a different format from what Reynor's used to. He's even said in interviews that he doesn't do much prep for opponents, which may be fine in weekenders (even there I think it hurts him some), but that definitely won't fly in GSL. His baseline skill might be good enough for a deep run, but without some adjustments I doubt he can win.


I think you are HEAVILY underestimating jetlag

Serral must be a superhuman as he has defeated koreans AND jet lag in GSL vs the world -tournaments. Or does jet lag only for when traveling from Korea to Europe?


I believe he arrived to Korea like a week or more before GSL vs the world - which is not GSL Code S BTW - which is plenty of time to rest and recover. Koreans when going to Europe arrive within a few days - usually 2 or 3 - before the tournament. These EU tournaments are also weekend events, so its grueling on the body as well. I'm guessing you've never flown anywhere long. Europe to Europe travel is extremely easy and not very taxing on the body.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
August 04 2022 06:06 GMT
#57
There have been KR vs Foreigner tournaments with Drafts before, where you could easily see, how the koreans rate foreigners.

Example:
(Wiki)King of Battles/2
Reynor was the last Player to be picked there, so I gues they do respect him
MaxPax
t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
183 Posts
August 04 2022 06:07 GMT
#58
Let's go Riccardino!
(Btw Riccardino is reynor...)

p.s. Guys, stop feeding the troll
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
August 04 2022 09:27 GMT
#59
I knew Reynor would have gone for it!
Now he just has to win.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6900 Posts
August 04 2022 10:05 GMT
#60
On August 04 2022 04:46 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2022 04:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
2022 Overall game score
Serral 7-3 Maru
Serral 2-0 Dark
Serral 7-2 Rogue
Serral 0-1 herO
Total 16-6

If Koreans didn't fear Serral, then they'd be very foolish.

Reynor 4-7 Maru
Reynor 3-2 Dark
Reynor 1-0 Rogue
Reynor 3-2 herO
Total 11-11

They should definitely fear Reynor too, though. Looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table

No you see, some of those matches were in totally unimportant tournaments like IEM Katowice so Serral isn't a legit player.

As for Reynor's chances I'm sort of pessimistic just because GSL is such a different format from what Reynor's used to. He's even said in interviews that he doesn't do much prep for opponents, which may be fine in weekenders (even there I think it hurts him some), but that definitely won't fly in GSL. His baseline skill might be good enough for a deep run, but without some adjustments I doubt he can win.


He got Jake there with him for the devious builds and build prep. Should help him a lot.

Also, PLEASE STOP FEEDING THE TROLL
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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