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OGamingTV SC2
Profile Joined March 2013
France84 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 20:30:25
January 22 2022 18:51 GMT
#1
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The last edition of Nations Wars was in 2019. It was long ago, too long ago...
Together, let's bring back the iconic StarCraft II World Cup: welcome to the Nation Wars 7! #NW7 Support here


Nation wars starts with countries. No longer will you just fight for you or a simple team. Here you represent your entire nation at the top of what competitive StarCraft has to offer, where the stakes are massive and prestige immortal.

The format in this edition will evolve from previous years: one part of the games will be played in 2v2.
We make this choice for 3 main reasons. One to bring diversity to a recipe in its seventh iteration. Two to limit the One Man Army potential of top players. And three to reinforce the team dimension of the rosters. It will be all about synergizing with your unique teammate, because teams will be made of 2 players!

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The tournament will take place this summer with 10 play days:
- Qualifier RO32 : 11 / 12 june
- Group Stage RO16 : 17 / 18 / 19 + 22 / 23 / 24 june
- Bracket RO8 : 26 june

International streams:
- English twitch.tv/wardiii with co caster RotterdaM
- French twitch.tv/OGamingSC2
- Korean twitch.tv/crank
- German twitch.tv/taketv
- Polish twitch.tv/indystarcraft
- Russian twitch.tv/alex007sc2
- Spanish twitch.tv/horusstv
- Finish twitch.tv/divinesiatv

We are currently working on booking such a venue in the heart of Paris. In the meantime, we are steaming ahead with the online version of the tournament. The success of this campaing will show the expectation is strong, making the project evolve to offline finals.

From there, we will launch a second campaign for the finals on stage! If you've already purchased a ticket in the first crowdfunding round by that point, it will automatically be transformed into a seat for this offline event. #NW7

Crowdfunding page: ulule.com/nationwarssc2

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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3377 Posts
January 22 2022 19:09 GMT
#2
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12843 Posts
January 22 2022 19:15 GMT
#3
Super hyped!
Hopefully Maru wanna participate, Korea without INno would be in trouble
WriterMaru
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 20:12:16
January 22 2022 20:12 GMT
#4
Great stuff, I'll make sure to throw a few buck your way!
Clearly with the return of 2v2 Korea need to bring Nestea out of retirement.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
January 22 2022 20:50 GMT
#5
Dumb question so I apologize but whats the best way to convert my USD into Euros so I can buy the bronze pack?
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1156 Posts
January 22 2022 20:58 GMT
#6
I usually love the Allkill-format, but last NationWar was just ridiciolous. It basically was Serral vs. Reynor vs. Korea feat. France. It just asn't a team-competition at all.
With the new format I can see how this will be more fun, though Korea probably is an even bigger favorite than usual know. Great odds for germany though!

Really excited for the new addition witht his, though it will also be the first NW without Snute, right?
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 21:01:36
January 22 2022 21:01 GMT
#7
Great news, we needed a new edition!
Judgement
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands152 Posts
January 22 2022 21:29 GMT
#8
nice, hyped to see Nation Wars again!
"What good fortune for goverments that the people do not think."
Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany153 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 21:53:32
January 22 2022 21:50 GMT
#9
Magnificent News! There are plenty of national teams that have real upset potential. Of course, Korea is the natural hyper-favorite in this format, with still the biggest number of extraordinary players. But I would give France, Germany, China definitivly a outsider chance.
Cheers to you guys at O'Gaming
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
January 22 2022 22:55 GMT
#10
On January 23 2022 06:50 Tommy131313 wrote:
Magnificent News! There are plenty of national teams that have real upset potential. Of course, Korea is the natural hyper-favorite in this format, with still the biggest number of extraordinary players. But I would give France, Germany, China definitivly a outsider chance.
Cheers to you guys at O'Gaming


Clem and Serral are pretty much S class Korean level imo, I think that Serral might be a bit stronger in ZvT then Clem is in TvT, not exactly sure of Clem's TvT.

tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3396 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 02:35:43
January 23 2022 02:35 GMT
#11
I would just send out Maru + Byun for S Korea and watch them shit on people with double proxy reapers every 2v2 game.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 23 2022 07:38 GMT
#12
Do they have to bring the same 2 Players every match or is a 3rd Player in the rooster possible?
Would be pretty sad to only get 2 out of Gabe, Lambo and Showtime onto Team Germany
MaxPax
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany323 Posts
January 23 2022 08:25 GMT
#13
I like the new format but 3 players per country would be better i think.
hfsrj
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany166 Posts
January 23 2022 08:26 GMT
#14
So cool, really love the 2v2 inclusion.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
January 23 2022 10:43 GMT
#15
On January 23 2022 03:51 OGamingTV SC2 wrote:
Two to limit the One Man Army potential of top players.

On January 23 2022 03:51 OGamingTV SC2 wrote:
because teams will be made of 2 players!

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
FCHK
Profile Joined August 2020
202 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 11:05:23
January 23 2022 11:01 GMT
#16
The current Olympic Table Tennis Team event format of 3 players best-of-5 is a better solution

ABC Team vs XYZ Team
1 Doubles B+C vs Y+Z
2 Singles A vs X
3 Singles C vs Z
4 Singles (if necessary) A vs Y
5 Singles (if necessary) B vs X
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain877 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 11:18:30
January 23 2022 11:18 GMT
#17
I am not too much into 2v2 but, is it not imbalanced in favor of TZ teams?
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 23 2022 11:20 GMT
#18
It's so great having Nation Wars back! Looking forward to the new format!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 23 2022 11:35 GMT
#19
On January 23 2022 20:18 Xamo wrote:
I am not too much into 2v2 but, is it not imbalanced in favor of TZ teams?


Why do you think that? I hardly think any of the 2v2 maps have been tried and tested very thoroughly by the top players...
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55516 Posts
January 23 2022 11:45 GMT
#20
Last time I saw anything in terms of high level 2v2, the best combination was PT because of the skytoss/mech combo.

I find it weird that you try to weaken "one man armies", yet you make the players who would be that even more important by making teams smaller.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 23 2022 12:34 GMT
#21
On January 23 2022 20:45 Elentos wrote:
Last time I saw anything in terms of high level 2v2, the best combination was PT because of the skytoss/mech combo.

I find it weird that you try to weaken "one man armies", yet you make the players who would be that even more important by making teams smaller.


Skytoss/mech does sound scary in 2v2, but it takes a while to get there... I'm very much looking forward to see what will come out of this tourney!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
456 Posts
January 23 2022 14:13 GMT
#22
2v2 in starcraft 2 really sucks, so i feel like this format is a mistake
ZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Russian Federation36 Posts
January 23 2022 15:36 GMT
#23
woooooohoooooooooo
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7104 Posts
January 23 2022 16:29 GMT
#24
This format is kinda sad. I'd rather have had 4 player teams with proleague format. This is really about as far from a team league as you can have, while still having teams.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 23 2022 17:00 GMT
#25
lol @ 2 players / country
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 23 2022 17:11 GMT
#26
Hyped but very sad it's only 2 players per country.

Doesn't really seem to achieve the goal of making one man armies weaker either.

But I will still support and enjoy the tournament .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55516 Posts
January 23 2022 17:53 GMT
#27
On January 24 2022 02:11 Musicus wrote:
Hyped but very sad it's only 2 players per country.

Doesn't really seem to achieve the goal of making one man armies weaker either.

But I will still support and enjoy the tournament .

It kind of makes them weaker because they have to essentially protect their teammates in the 2v2s and they can't really afford to lose their 1v1s. But it puts guys like Reynor and Serral even more into the spotlight because they have to compensate for the weakness of their team harder than ever before.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
351 Posts
January 23 2022 18:58 GMT
#28
For me it was much better when it was 3 players + 1 substitute because it allows for rotation if this is ever required. As for the 2v2s, reducing teams to two players per team could make for weaker teams -> a great 1v1 player isn't always a good 2v2 player, and vice-versa.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 24 2022 08:50 GMT
#29
I think the WTL format (from the regular season, not the playoffs) would have been better in giving less top heavy Teams a chance.
I still understand, that they try to do something new and also want to give as much players/ nations as possible the Chance to compete.

Still not sure, if the format will work, but supporting it nevertheless
I ve been waiting for another NW way to long
MaxPax
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1710 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-24 10:24:43
January 24 2022 10:12 GMT
#30
who is signing the sweatshirt for the master tier?

reading through the format I can see now why for some nations (like the UK - razerblader + teebul w/ Risky sub? who else?) it might be easier to have a team but for others like Germany or France its really quite disappointing
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 24 2022 10:37 GMT
#31
On January 24 2022 19:12 atrox_ wrote:
who is signing the sweatshirt for the master tier?

reading through the format I can see now why for some nations (like the UK - razerblader + teebul w/ Risky sub? who else?) it might be easier to have a team but for others like Germany or France its really quite disappointing

There is still one subplement Player allowed, so the rooster is technically still a total of 3 Players.
Still, in the past the sub mostly never played anyways
MaxPax
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1013 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-24 12:43:11
January 24 2022 12:38 GMT
#32
On January 24 2022 19:12 atrox_ wrote:
who is signing the sweatshirt for the master tier?

reading through the format I can see now why for some nations (like the UK - razerblader + teebul w/ Risky sub? who else?) it might be easier to have a team but for others like Germany or France its really quite disappointing

(Wiki)Zain and (Wiki)OpTiMiStC are both players who'd be in with a shout, and there's also GrimReaper who was the substitute last time. I'd guess that all three are better options than RiSky because he doesn't seem to have been practicing.

EDIT:

I believe all six players (Raza, Teebul, Zain, OpTiMiStC, GrimReaper and RiSky) are eligible to represent other countries through dual-citizenship. So that's a fun fact for you!
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
AmFreak
Profile Joined July 2012
16 Posts
January 27 2022 20:06 GMT
#33
Still not a team event when the one man show still has the advantage due to the ace match.
This format perfectly fits 4 people, don't know what's the problem.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 28 2022 06:53 GMT
#34
On January 28 2022 05:06 AmFreak wrote:
Still not a team event when the one man show still has the advantage due to the ace match.
This format perfectly fits 4 people, don't know what's the problem.

They want as many nations as possible and there are quite a few nations, that couldn t even field 3 GM Players in the past format
MaxPax
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1013 Posts
January 28 2022 08:53 GMT
#35
On January 28 2022 15:53 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2022 05:06 AmFreak wrote:
Still not a team event when the one man show still has the advantage due to the ace match.
This format perfectly fits 4 people, don't know what's the problem.

They want as many nations as possible and there are quite a few nations, that couldn t even field 3 GM Players in the past format

San Marino can't field 11 Serie A players but they still try to qualify for the World Cup every time. I don't see why not having enough GM players is a problem.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 28 2022 09:51 GMT
#36
On January 28 2022 17:53 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2022 15:53 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 05:06 AmFreak wrote:
Still not a team event when the one man show still has the advantage due to the ace match.
This format perfectly fits 4 people, don't know what's the problem.

They want as many nations as possible and there are quite a few nations, that couldn t even field 3 GM Players in the past format

San Marino can't field 11 Serie A players but they still try to qualify for the World Cup every time. I don't see why not having enough GM players is a problem.

If I remember correctly in the past you had to be at least GM (or maybe Masters?) To sign up for NationWars.
But yeah I totally get the point
If they wanted to Limit the applications for the "national teams" they could even do an Open breaket per Nation if more than 8 Players sign up and then have the top 4 Play in the Main tournament
MaxPax
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14459 Posts
January 28 2022 10:15 GMT
#37
On January 28 2022 18:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2022 17:53 MJG wrote:
On January 28 2022 15:53 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 05:06 AmFreak wrote:
Still not a team event when the one man show still has the advantage due to the ace match.
This format perfectly fits 4 people, don't know what's the problem.

They want as many nations as possible and there are quite a few nations, that couldn t even field 3 GM Players in the past format

San Marino can't field 11 Serie A players but they still try to qualify for the World Cup every time. I don't see why not having enough GM players is a problem.

If I remember correctly in the past you had to be at least GM (or maybe Masters?) To sign up for NationWars.
But yeah I totally get the point
If they wanted to Limit the applications for the "national teams" they could even do an Open breaket per Nation if more than 8 Players sign up and then have the top 4 Play in the Main tournament

It's soooooo much work to do that and they are running under a tight budget already.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1013 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-28 10:45:54
January 28 2022 10:45 GMT
#38
On January 28 2022 19:15 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2022 18:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 17:53 MJG wrote:
On January 28 2022 15:53 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 05:06 AmFreak wrote:
Still not a team event when the one man show still has the advantage due to the ace match.
This format perfectly fits 4 people, don't know what's the problem.

They want as many nations as possible and there are quite a few nations, that couldn t even field 3 GM Players in the past format

San Marino can't field 11 Serie A players but they still try to qualify for the World Cup every time. I don't see why not having enough GM players is a problem.

If I remember correctly in the past you had to be at least GM (or maybe Masters?) To sign up for NationWars.
But yeah I totally get the point
If they wanted to Limit the applications for the "national teams" they could even do an Open breaket per Nation if more than 8 Players sign up and then have the top 4 Play in the Main tournament

It's soooooo much work to do that and they are running under a tight budget already.

They did online votes last time so there's no reason they couldn't open that up to a broader range of players. I do think it is a bit strange to only have two players per team and then claim that you're reducing the influence of one strong player...
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12843 Posts
January 28 2022 10:48 GMT
#39
Yeah remember that this is crowdfunded and not Blizzard pouring money anymore.
I am relatively fine for two players even though nations with depth are penalized, the 2v2 could be fun between progamers. Wonder if the 2v2 team with Lilekannin would stand a chance vs better 1v1 pros that have no experience in this format, but he seems retired
WriterMaru
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 28 2022 12:06 GMT
#40
On January 28 2022 19:45 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2022 19:15 Aeromi wrote:
On January 28 2022 18:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 17:53 MJG wrote:
On January 28 2022 15:53 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 05:06 AmFreak wrote:
Still not a team event when the one man show still has the advantage due to the ace match.
This format perfectly fits 4 people, don't know what's the problem.

They want as many nations as possible and there are quite a few nations, that couldn t even field 3 GM Players in the past format

San Marino can't field 11 Serie A players but they still try to qualify for the World Cup every time. I don't see why not having enough GM players is a problem.

If I remember correctly in the past you had to be at least GM (or maybe Masters?) To sign up for NationWars.
But yeah I totally get the point
If they wanted to Limit the applications for the "national teams" they could even do an Open breaket per Nation if more than 8 Players sign up and then have the top 4 Play in the Main tournament

It's soooooo much work to do that and they are running under a tight budget already.

They did online votes last time so there's no reason they couldn't open that up to a broader range of players. I do think it is a bit strange to only have two players per team and then claim that you're reducing the influence of one strong player...

Well how would you do a public voting between average joe #1 - #8?
Unless you had to put the MMR and race next to the Name, you had no idear Who to vote on. And if you did, 99% of the comunity would just go with the highest MMR then
MaxPax
AmFreak
Profile Joined July 2012
16 Posts
January 28 2022 13:13 GMT
#41
On January 28 2022 21:06 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2022 19:45 MJG wrote:
On January 28 2022 19:15 Aeromi wrote:
On January 28 2022 18:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 17:53 MJG wrote:
On January 28 2022 15:53 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 05:06 AmFreak wrote:
Still not a team event when the one man show still has the advantage due to the ace match.
This format perfectly fits 4 people, don't know what's the problem.

They want as many nations as possible and there are quite a few nations, that couldn t even field 3 GM Players in the past format

San Marino can't field 11 Serie A players but they still try to qualify for the World Cup every time. I don't see why not having enough GM players is a problem.

If I remember correctly in the past you had to be at least GM (or maybe Masters?) To sign up for NationWars.
But yeah I totally get the point
If they wanted to Limit the applications for the "national teams" they could even do an Open breaket per Nation if more than 8 Players sign up and then have the top 4 Play in the Main tournament

It's soooooo much work to do that and they are running under a tight budget already.

They did online votes last time so there's no reason they couldn't open that up to a broader range of players. I do think it is a bit strange to only have two players per team and then claim that you're reducing the influence of one strong player...

Well how would you do a public voting between average joe #1 - #8?
Unless you had to put the MMR and race next to the Name, you had no idear Who to vote on. And if you did, 99% of the comunity would just go with the highest MMR then

The same is true even for 2 players and they already did it with 3 players in the past, so i don't see the problem. It's also not as if everyone has to vote for every country, i'm sure there are people who know the best players of their country. I also don't see the big problem with people deciding by mmr in case of no names, because it indicates a certain level of skill. It's not as if popularity automatically leads to the best team anyway, there were cases in the past were someone was voted in because he was just more popular and not because of skill.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1013 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-28 14:28:22
January 28 2022 14:28 GMT
#42
On January 28 2022 22:13 AmFreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2022 21:06 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 19:45 MJG wrote:
On January 28 2022 19:15 Aeromi wrote:
On January 28 2022 18:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 17:53 MJG wrote:
On January 28 2022 15:53 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 05:06 AmFreak wrote:
Still not a team event when the one man show still has the advantage due to the ace match.
This format perfectly fits 4 people, don't know what's the problem.

They want as many nations as possible and there are quite a few nations, that couldn t even field 3 GM Players in the past format

San Marino can't field 11 Serie A players but they still try to qualify for the World Cup every time. I don't see why not having enough GM players is a problem.

If I remember correctly in the past you had to be at least GM (or maybe Masters?) To sign up for NationWars.
But yeah I totally get the point
If they wanted to Limit the applications for the "national teams" they could even do an Open breaket per Nation if more than 8 Players sign up and then have the top 4 Play in the Main tournament

It's soooooo much work to do that and they are running under a tight budget already.

They did online votes last time so there's no reason they couldn't open that up to a broader range of players. I do think it is a bit strange to only have two players per team and then claim that you're reducing the influence of one strong player...

Well how would you do a public voting between average joe #1 - #8?
Unless you had to put the MMR and race next to the Name, you had no idear Who to vote on. And if you did, 99% of the comunity would just go with the highest MMR then

The same is true even for 2 players and they already did it with 3 players in the past, so i don't see the problem. It's also not as if everyone has to vote for every country, i'm sure there are people who know the best players of their country. I also don't see the big problem with people deciding by mmr in case of no names, because it indicates a certain level of skill. It's not as if popularity automatically leads to the best team anyway, there were cases in the past were someone was voted in because he was just more popular and not because of skill.

Couldn't have put it better myself...
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14459 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-29 09:01:41
January 29 2022 09:00 GMT
#43
On January 28 2022 19:45 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2022 19:15 Aeromi wrote:
On January 28 2022 18:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 17:53 MJG wrote:
On January 28 2022 15:53 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 28 2022 05:06 AmFreak wrote:
Still not a team event when the one man show still has the advantage due to the ace match.
This format perfectly fits 4 people, don't know what's the problem.

They want as many nations as possible and there are quite a few nations, that couldn t even field 3 GM Players in the past format

San Marino can't field 11 Serie A players but they still try to qualify for the World Cup every time. I don't see why not having enough GM players is a problem.

If I remember correctly in the past you had to be at least GM (or maybe Masters?) To sign up for NationWars.
But yeah I totally get the point
If they wanted to Limit the applications for the "national teams" they could even do an Open breaket per Nation if more than 8 Players sign up and then have the top 4 Play in the Main tournament

It's soooooo much work to do that and they are running under a tight budget already.

They did online votes last time so there's no reason they couldn't open that up to a broader range of players. I do think it is a bit strange to only have two players per team and then claim that you're reducing the influence of one strong player...

Well as the tournament director of the past few editions of Nation Wars I can definitely tell you there was no budget to run local qualifiers for all nations. Having 3 players per nation was already hard enough because a lot of small SC2 nations would have 3 GM players maximum.

I'm not saying the voting format is great for any edition, I'm just trying to tell that O'Gaming is running with a tight tight budget. I would rather have a meh format with everyone working on the tournament being paid that having local qualifiers that cost a lot of money.

Also it was clear from the beginning that Nation Wars is not about skills only but also marketing yourself if you are a player.
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zemarakemedi
Profile Joined February 2022
1 Post
February 01 2022 17:14 GMT
#44
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6924 Posts
February 03 2022 10:15 GMT
#45
Bump

They are at 54% (21.758 € of 40.000 €) and 19 days left. Let's make this happen!
I do like that there are 2v2s involved but I don't like the player diversity. Only 2 players per team is a bit on the small side of things. Would wish for at least 3 with an optional 4th player
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
February 03 2022 11:53 GMT
#46
On February 03 2022 19:15 Harris1st wrote:
Bump

They are at 54% (21.758 € of 40.000 €) and 19 days left. Let's make this happen!
I do like that there are 2v2s involved but I don't like the player diversity. Only 2 players per team is a bit on the small side of things. Would wish for at least 3 with an optional 4th player

Appearently it s going to be possible to rotate between matches with 3 Players. You can t use all 3 Players in the same match though
MaxPax
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
February 03 2022 13:39 GMT
#47
Can we make Paypal happen? I don't own a credit card and would really love to support the project.
Just allowing debit card seems a bit off.

Cheers!
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CrowbarBarney
Profile Joined August 2021
9 Posts
February 06 2022 18:49 GMT
#48
Can't believe I missed this!! NATION WARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 06 2022 22:13 GMT
#49
On February 03 2022 22:39 Haku wrote:
Can we make Paypal happen? I don't own a credit card and would really love to support the project.
Just allowing debit card seems a bit off.

Cheers!


If you are on the trusting side of things you can paypall it to me and I can direct it to them with a recipt, just PM me.

But maybe it's possible to give it without a credit card through Ogaming Twitch channel?
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3396 Posts
February 17 2022 03:31 GMT
#50
This fund-raise has been extended till mid-March, we are getting there guys.
https://www.ulule.com/nationwarssc2/news/
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
April 06 2022 11:31 GMT
#51
So the Crowdfunding campaign was stopped 3 days ago with just over 50k.
How much of that is going into the price Pool?
Also the Player voting (wich was very poorly advertised and had some issues as usual) is done as well? Please give us some more informations
MaxPax
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12843 Posts
April 06 2022 11:50 GMT
#52
On April 06 2022 20:31 dbRic1203 wrote:
So the Crowdfunding campaign was stopped 3 days ago with just over 50k.
How much of that is going into the price Pool?
Also the Player voting (wich was very poorly advertised and had some issues as usual) is done as well? Please give us some more informations

It says so on their Ulule page:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

16% is supposed to go to the prizepool, but I don't know if the asset was for 40k, 60k, and if they change this percentage to have the same cashprize for 50k as if there was 60k$.
Afaik the player voting is done and captains are now choosing their partner, there will probably be more informations soon
WriterMaru
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
April 06 2022 13:03 GMT
#53
On April 06 2022 20:50 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2022 20:31 dbRic1203 wrote:
So the Crowdfunding campaign was stopped 3 days ago with just over 50k.
How much of that is going into the price Pool?
Also the Player voting (wich was very poorly advertised and had some issues as usual) is done as well? Please give us some more informations

It says so on their Ulule page:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

16% is supposed to go to the prizepool, but I don't know if the asset was for 40k, 60k, and if they change this percentage to have the same cashprize for 50k as if there was 60k$.
Afaik the player voting is done and captains are now choosing their partner, there will probably be more informations soon

Their initial Goal was 40k on Crowdfunding and Liquipedia says 10k Pricepool
So I assumed those percentages are just for Information purpose and not translated 1:1 into how much money actually goes to the Players.
16% of 50k would be 8k wich would be insanely underwhelming for such a hugh crowdfundingcampaing
MaxPax
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6924 Posts
April 06 2022 13:13 GMT
#54
On April 06 2022 22:03 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2022 20:50 Poopi wrote:
On April 06 2022 20:31 dbRic1203 wrote:
So the Crowdfunding campaign was stopped 3 days ago with just over 50k.
How much of that is going into the price Pool?
Also the Player voting (wich was very poorly advertised and had some issues as usual) is done as well? Please give us some more informations

It says so on their Ulule page:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

16% is supposed to go to the prizepool, but I don't know if the asset was for 40k, 60k, and if they change this percentage to have the same cashprize for 50k as if there was 60k$.
Afaik the player voting is done and captains are now choosing their partner, there will probably be more informations soon

Their initial Goal was 40k on Crowdfunding and Liquipedia says 10k Pricepool
So I assumed those percentages are just for Information purpose and not translated 1:1 into how much money actually goes to the Players.
16% of 50k would be 8k wich would be insanely underwhelming for such a hugh crowdfundingcampaing


I thought it would be 16% + the inital 10k -> 18k?

A bit of a pity there is so little information. A bit like the French version of WESG
Completely missed the voting as well
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12843 Posts
April 06 2022 13:21 GMT
#55
On April 06 2022 22:03 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2022 20:50 Poopi wrote:
On April 06 2022 20:31 dbRic1203 wrote:
So the Crowdfunding campaign was stopped 3 days ago with just over 50k.
How much of that is going into the price Pool?
Also the Player voting (wich was very poorly advertised and had some issues as usual) is done as well? Please give us some more informations

It says so on their Ulule page:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

16% is supposed to go to the prizepool, but I don't know if the asset was for 40k, 60k, and if they change this percentage to have the same cashprize for 50k as if there was 60k$.
Afaik the player voting is done and captains are now choosing their partner, there will probably be more informations soon

Their initial Goal was 40k on Crowdfunding and Liquipedia says 10k Pricepool
So I assumed those percentages are just for Information purpose and not translated 1:1 into how much money actually goes to the Players.
16% of 50k would be 8k wich would be insanely underwhelming for such a hugh crowdfundingcampaing

So if liquipedia says 10k and 16% of 60k is 9.6k I assume their real percentage is 16.67% that they rounded to 16%, which would make the prizepool 10k as liquipedia says
Hopefully Maru wants to participate for once, there is some hope since he played in the 2v2 thing with ByuN?
Though Maru+ByuN would be weak in 2v2, T+P reigned supreme in that 2v2 event
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3396 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-06 14:05:59
April 06 2022 14:04 GMT
#56
So the team captain can pick anyone willing from the country right? They dont have to be on the initial register/voting list?
Also, I thought Maru + Byun did fairly well in the 2v2 tournament during the playoff. They barely lost to the champion of the event, and NW also has the 1v1 part, so I think they would be heavy favorite to win considering all that.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12843 Posts
April 06 2022 14:10 GMT
#57
On April 06 2022 23:04 tigera6 wrote:
So the team captain can pick anyone willing from the country right? They dont have to be on the initial register/voting list?
Also, I thought Maru + Byun did fairly well in the 2v2 tournament during the playoff. They barely lost to the champion of the event, and NW also has the 1v1 part, so I think they would be heavy favorite to win considering all that.

Yeah they were quite strong, but imo ByuN+herO would be the best possible 2v2 team they could gather and still be dangerous in 1v1.
I am sure more informations will be coming, the event will probably be dope as usual anyways though
WriterMaru
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-06 15:07:28
April 06 2022 15:05 GMT
#58
On April 06 2022 22:21 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2022 22:03 dbRic1203 wrote:
On April 06 2022 20:50 Poopi wrote:
On April 06 2022 20:31 dbRic1203 wrote:
So the Crowdfunding campaign was stopped 3 days ago with just over 50k.
How much of that is going into the price Pool?
Also the Player voting (wich was very poorly advertised and had some issues as usual) is done as well? Please give us some more informations

It says so on their Ulule page:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

16% is supposed to go to the prizepool, but I don't know if the asset was for 40k, 60k, and if they change this percentage to have the same cashprize for 50k as if there was 60k$.
Afaik the player voting is done and captains are now choosing their partner, there will probably be more informations soon

Their initial Goal was 40k on Crowdfunding and Liquipedia says 10k Pricepool
So I assumed those percentages are just for Information purpose and not translated 1:1 into how much money actually goes to the Players.
16% of 50k would be 8k wich would be insanely underwhelming for such a hugh crowdfundingcampaing

Hopefully Maru wants to participate for once, there is some hope since he played in the 2v2 thing with ByuN?
Though Maru+ByuN would be weak in 2v2, T+P reigned supreme in that 2v2 event


Seeing Maru playing the 2v2 with ByuN days ago is an encouraging sign, BUT based on the reasons on why he hasn't played Stay at HSC lately (and similar events), I'm not holding my breath. I would be surprised if he decides to play.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
April 06 2022 15:15 GMT
#59
this format sux hard
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
April 06 2022 15:21 GMT
#60
On April 06 2022 22:13 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2022 22:03 dbRic1203 wrote:
On April 06 2022 20:50 Poopi wrote:
On April 06 2022 20:31 dbRic1203 wrote:
So the Crowdfunding campaign was stopped 3 days ago with just over 50k.
How much of that is going into the price Pool?
Also the Player voting (wich was very poorly advertised and had some issues as usual) is done as well? Please give us some more informations

It says so on their Ulule page:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

16% is supposed to go to the prizepool, but I don't know if the asset was for 40k, 60k, and if they change this percentage to have the same cashprize for 50k as if there was 60k$.
Afaik the player voting is done and captains are now choosing their partner, there will probably be more informations soon

Their initial Goal was 40k on Crowdfunding and Liquipedia says 10k Pricepool
So I assumed those percentages are just for Information purpose and not translated 1:1 into how much money actually goes to the Players.
16% of 50k would be 8k wich would be insanely underwhelming for such a hugh crowdfundingcampaing


I thought it would be 16% + the inital 10k -> 18k?

A bit of a pity there is so little information. A bit like the French version of WESG
Completely missed the voting as well

Yeah me too. Tried it once or twice, but it was bugged and then forgot to check again
MaxPax
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-06 16:08:01
April 06 2022 15:56 GMT
#61
On February 03 2022 22:39 Haku wrote:
Can we make Paypal happen? I don't own a credit card and would really love to support the project.
Just allowing debit card seems a bit off.

Cheers!


I second this. I went to the website based on the link posted by the OP, it's all in French, and I have never heard of the website before. I don't want to enter my credit card information in a website I have never heard of before, and it's all in French too.

A PayPal option would be more suitable, as PayPal stores all my financial information. I would consider contributing to support Nation Wars if a PayPal option were offered, and everything is in English.
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden717 Posts
April 06 2022 18:46 GMT
#62
On April 07 2022 00:56 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2022 22:39 Haku wrote:
Can we make Paypal happen? I don't own a credit card and would really love to support the project.
Just allowing debit card seems a bit off.

Cheers!


I second this. I went to the website based on the link posted by the OP, it's all in French, and I have never heard of the website before. I don't want to enter my credit card information in a website I have never heard of before, and it's all in French too.

A PayPal option would be more suitable, as PayPal stores all my financial information. I would consider contributing to support Nation Wars if a PayPal option were offered, and everything is in English.


https://www.ulule.com/nationwarssc2/

Its in english if you dont use the french adress (https://fr.ulule.com/nationwarssc2/)
robotc_sc2
Profile Joined June 2022
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-28 14:17:55
June 28 2022 14:17 GMT
#63
And this is what you get: china-will-not-participate-nation-wars-ro4

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