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equin0xx
Profile Joined April 2011
17 Posts
January 18 2022 20:38 GMT
#81
On January 19 2022 05:31 Marcos4912 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 03:23 donek99 wrote:
On January 19 2022 03:18 Swisslink wrote:



And I highly doubt that they kill Bnet.


Maybe not kill but make it part of their own system and let people pay for it. That would be worse than the status quo.


that's not how Gamepass works
you can buy games in MS Store just as on Steam/Origin/Battle.net etc.

ActiBlizz games will (most likely) be integrated into MS Store - f2p will stay f2p, for things you paid and own will have their license moved to MS Store and you won't have to pay again
new players will however get option to try games via gamepass without straigh up buying it


Exactly, AOE4 and Halo Infinite are both on Steam too. Seems possible that Activision and even Blizzard games could end up back on there instead of only on the Battle.net app.

Game Pass isn't like the old Xbox Live Gold thing you needed to buy to get basic online features. I think a lot of people are assuming that's still a thing.
112StaminaX
Profile Joined June 2020
37 Posts
January 18 2022 20:38 GMT
#82
of all the things that could pull blizzard out of the mud, this could be it.

deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 18 2022 20:39 GMT
#83
My fear is that MS will move the shit out of bnet and will enforce Windows10+. In my case, being on Win7, would that mean to stop being able to play SC2. (and I am not moving over, I rather curse this game and stop watching even the little I follow)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
donek99
Profile Joined January 2014
14 Posts
January 18 2022 20:49 GMT
#84
On January 19 2022 05:38 equin0xx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 05:31 Marcos4912 wrote:
On January 19 2022 03:23 donek99 wrote:
On January 19 2022 03:18 Swisslink wrote:



And I highly doubt that they kill Bnet.


Maybe not kill but make it part of their own system and let people pay for it. That would be worse than the status quo.


that's not how Gamepass works
you can buy games in MS Store just as on Steam/Origin/Battle.net etc.

ActiBlizz games will (most likely) be integrated into MS Store - f2p will stay f2p, for things you paid and own will have their license moved to MS Store and you won't have to pay again
new players will however get option to try games via gamepass without straigh up buying it


Exactly, AOE4 and Halo Infinite are both on Steam too. Seems possible that Activision and even Blizzard games could end up back on there instead of only on the Battle.net app.

Game Pass isn't like the old Xbox Live Gold thing you needed to buy to get basic online features. I think a lot of people are assuming that's still a thing.


Isnt there a monthly fee to use gamepass?
equin0xx
Profile Joined April 2011
17 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 21:05:25
January 18 2022 21:04 GMT
#85
On January 19 2022 05:49 donek99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 05:38 equin0xx wrote:
On January 19 2022 05:31 Marcos4912 wrote:
On January 19 2022 03:23 donek99 wrote:
On January 19 2022 03:18 Swisslink wrote:



And I highly doubt that they kill Bnet.


Maybe not kill but make it part of their own system and let people pay for it. That would be worse than the status quo.


that's not how Gamepass works
you can buy games in MS Store just as on Steam/Origin/Battle.net etc.

ActiBlizz games will (most likely) be integrated into MS Store - f2p will stay f2p, for things you paid and own will have their license moved to MS Store and you won't have to pay again
new players will however get option to try games via gamepass without straigh up buying it


Exactly, AOE4 and Halo Infinite are both on Steam too. Seems possible that Activision and even Blizzard games could end up back on there instead of only on the Battle.net app.

Game Pass isn't like the old Xbox Live Gold thing you needed to buy to get basic online features. I think a lot of people are assuming that's still a thing.


Isnt there a monthly fee to use gamepass?



There is, but you can still buy any of these games individually yourself from all the usual places, and they have all the same features you would expect, without Game Pass.

Game Pass is a subscription service that lets you download and play any game on Game Pass for a monthly fee, but you don't need to buy it to play any of these games. Not buying it doesn't negatively effect your gaming experience.

If all you do is play a handful of games it doesn't make sense, but if you are going to try to power through all 5 Gears of War campaigns in a month or something, it's a good deal.

It's like signing up for a streaming service to watch many different movies/shows vs. buying an individual movie/show yourself.
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 21:13:32
January 18 2022 21:07 GMT
#86
Lmao Clutch is playing StarCraft on the Xbox twitch channel edit: this is amazing
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
January 18 2022 21:48 GMT
#87
RE: the competition concerns, there is zero chance that this deal will be even investigated in-depth. Pulling some figures from random articles says gaming industry is around 150 billion USD, actiblizz revenue is around 8 billion or so (one here + Show Spoiler +
https://www.pcgamesn.com/game-industry-revenue-2020
). That's roughly 5% share of the market which is very fragmented and CAs defining the markets at anything more restrictive than maybe PC/Mobile/Console is very very unlikely. Arguing some horizontal dominance would be struck down in courts very easily.

The interesting stuff would be the vertical aspect, but I doubt some competition authority pursuing foreclosure type of arguments would do any better. I find the distributor - developer/publisher integration problematic definitely, but again there is zero chance this type of deal is big enough to lead into some intervention when much bigger acquisitions by FB/Google/Apple/Amazon have gone through even in recent years.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
January 18 2022 23:02 GMT
#88
Woooow this is huge news!!!
FF, KH, Persona, Uncharted, Yakuza | Porter, Illenium, MitiS, Dabin, Seven Lions, Petit Biscuit | Diablo II, SC2 | Pho, sushi, tacos
Darksaber23
Profile Joined July 2021
2 Posts
January 19 2022 00:22 GMT
#89
My first thought was maybe there's hope for a SC3, but then I remembered Frost Giant is a thing...
Spirral
Profile Joined February 2021
77 Posts
January 19 2022 00:53 GMT
#90
Microsoft? I guess they have a lot of interns? Maybe they lend us one.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4148 Posts
January 19 2022 01:29 GMT
#91
I don't think there's any point in Starcraft 3 now. Nobody plays hard games anymore, everything is as dumbed down and noob friendly as possible to attract the masses. It's probably going to be an even simpler version of SC2 and end up something like AOE 4. Maybe they'll throw in MOBA/BR gameplay into it as well.
necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
January 19 2022 02:49 GMT
#92
so how would the broadcasting rights be handled?

will there finally be built-in LAN?
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
January 19 2022 03:01 GMT
#93
Big news. SC2 streaming on XBOX twitch was strange. MS could definitely make some things happen for Starcraft! I'm excited.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
January 19 2022 03:09 GMT
#94
On January 19 2022 05:39 deacon.frost wrote:
My fear is that MS will move the shit out of bnet and will enforce Windows10+. In my case, being on Win7, would that mean to stop being able to play SC2. (and I am not moving over, I rather curse this game and stop watching even the little I follow)

10 to 11 I guess is understandable (I'm still on 10 and have no plans to move unless I get a 12th gen CPU), but staying on an 13 year old OS with no more security updates in 2022...
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alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2772 Posts
January 19 2022 03:22 GMT
#95
google tells me that Bob Kotick has about 0.56% of ATVI shares. Does that mean he'll get 0.56% of those 68.7 billions?
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary408 Posts
January 19 2022 08:08 GMT
#96
On January 19 2022 05:39 deacon.frost wrote:
My fear is that MS will move the shit out of bnet and will enforce Windows10+. In my case, being on Win7, would that mean to stop being able to play SC2. (and I am not moving over, I rather curse this game and stop watching even the little I follow)


d2 remastered already requires win10
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 09:28:03
January 19 2022 09:21 GMT
#97
On January 19 2022 17:08 bela.mervado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 05:39 deacon.frost wrote:
My fear is that MS will move the shit out of bnet and will enforce Windows10+. In my case, being on Win7, would that mean to stop being able to play SC2. (and I am not moving over, I rather curse this game and stop watching even the little I follow)


d2 remastered already requires win10

I don't care about other Blizzard games, I don't like them. D2R is a new game(kinda), so I can understand new Dx and higher requirements. The rest of Blizzard IPs never got my attention. Never understood what people liked so much about Diablo, Warcraft, WoW, Overwatch, Heroes, that card game. Hey, it's fine if you like it, but I certainly don't I really care only about Starcraft.

But SC2 is an old engine and I doubt anyone will update it to facilitate the advantages of Dx12+ (like better multicore handling)

On January 19 2022 12:09 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 05:39 deacon.frost wrote:
My fear is that MS will move the shit out of bnet and will enforce Windows10+. In my case, being on Win7, would that mean to stop being able to play SC2. (and I am not moving over, I rather curse this game and stop watching even the little I follow)

10 to 11 I guess is understandable (I'm still on 10 and have no plans to move unless I get a 12th gen CPU), but staying on an 13 year old OS with no more security updates in 2022...

SC2 is a 10-year old engine, so it's fine, isn't it? Forcing new Windows just for the sake of forcing it on an old engine is IMO bad. oh noez, no security updates from a company which requires me to provide them my mail. Fuck them.

We can go into why I hate win10+ but I wouldn't go there. (and FYI I use W10 at my workstation so I know what W10 is about)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
January 19 2022 09:36 GMT
#98
On January 19 2022 18:21 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 17:08 bela.mervado wrote:
On January 19 2022 05:39 deacon.frost wrote:
My fear is that MS will move the shit out of bnet and will enforce Windows10+. In my case, being on Win7, would that mean to stop being able to play SC2. (and I am not moving over, I rather curse this game and stop watching even the little I follow)


d2 remastered already requires win10

I don't care about other Blizzard games, I don't like them. D2R is a new game(kinda), so I can understand new Dx and higher requirements. The rest of Blizzard IPs never got my attention. Never understood what people liked so much about Diablo, Warcraft, WoW, Overwatch, Heroes, that card game. Hey, it's fine if you like it, but I certainly don't I really care only about Starcraft.

But SC2 is an old engine and I doubt anyone will update it to facilitate the advantages of Dx12+ (like better multicore handling)

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 12:09 digmouse wrote:
On January 19 2022 05:39 deacon.frost wrote:
My fear is that MS will move the shit out of bnet and will enforce Windows10+. In my case, being on Win7, would that mean to stop being able to play SC2. (and I am not moving over, I rather curse this game and stop watching even the little I follow)

10 to 11 I guess is understandable (I'm still on 10 and have no plans to move unless I get a 12th gen CPU), but staying on an 13 year old OS with no more security updates in 2022...

SC2 is a 10-year old engine, so it's fine, isn't it? Forcing new Windows just for the sake of forcing it on an old engine is IMO bad. oh noez, no security updates from a company which requires me to provide them my mail. Fuck them.

We can go into why I hate win10+ but I wouldn't go there. (and FYI I use W10 at my workstation so I know what W10 is about)

MS hasn't done a single thing to their other acquired old games so I don't even know where the FUD is even about. If you want to expose your PC online I guess be my guest? On Windows 10 you can just use an offline account and don't touch any of their telemetry shit which can also be turned off nowadays.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 10:48:54
January 19 2022 10:48 GMT
#99
On January 19 2022 12:22 alypse wrote:
google tells me that Bob Kotick has about 0.56% of ATVI shares. Does that mean he'll get 0.56% of those 68.7 billions?

Plus the Golden parachute he'll get so they can kick him out of management.

Sadly, we dont live in a world where an incompetent scumbag like him would get what he deserves (once he reached the top), the best we can hope for is that he causes no more harm, and happily retires to a private island or some such
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 12:32:16
January 19 2022 12:32 GMT
#100
On January 19 2022 19:48 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 12:22 alypse wrote:
google tells me that Bob Kotick has about 0.56% of ATVI shares. Does that mean he'll get 0.56% of those 68.7 billions?

Plus the Golden parachute he'll get so they can kick him out of management.

Sadly, we dont live in a world where an incompetent scumbag like him would get what he deserves (once he reached the top), the best we can hope for is that he causes no more harm, and happily retires to a private island or some such


His golden parachute is going to be a little under 300 million dollars too. If he was fired with cause, like he fucking deserves, he'd "only" get like 300,000 dollars.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/activision-blizzard-ceo-bobby-kotick-231711273.html
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