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olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-02 07:00:07
October 16 2021 01:11 GMT
#1
TSL 8 Logo

Hi, everyone! I am Olivia Wong, Tournament Admin for Team Liquid. It is my immense pleasure to announce Shopify TSL 8! Although TSL 8 is not the first TSL I’ve worked on, it is the first TSL I will be leading alongside SeaGnome and Wyf. Together we are dedicated to upholding TSL’s legacy by making fantastic tournaments.

Speaking of legacies, it would be remiss of me to not introduce our production crew for TSL 8, who has an amazing legacy of their own within StarCraft 2. No matter if they’re in a studio or at a water park, the fun and casual atmosphere they bring to events make it feel like home…Yes, our production crew for Shopify TSL 8 is none other than TakeTV!

Of course, we cannot forget how this is possible in the first place: thanks to our sponsors Twitch, Secretlab, IMC, and Shopify!

We also have an additional sponsor we’d like to introduce: Twitch user Sifolyy! This particular individual has been a subscriber of our TLnet Twitch channel for over 110 months (or over 9 years!) and recently brought to our attention we haven’t been broadcasting on that channel. That’s why the entirety of TSL 8 will be broadcasted on twitch.tv/TLnet!

Congratulations, Sifolyy! You were the change you wanted to see, and to thank you for all your dedication we have added you to our list of TSL 8 sponsors! Once again please be sure to express your gratitude to our sponsors: Sifolyy, Twitch, Secretlab, IMC, and Shopify!

Thanks to some incredible additional support from our sponsors, the success of TSL 7, and the help of TaKeTV, we're happy to support more players and a bigger TSL. Let’s dive into the details of TSL 8!

Tournament Details

Shopify TSL 8 is a 32 player, double elimination tournament awarding $30,000 USD and 1290 EPT points. The tournament will last for 3 weeks, with games every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday starting from Friday, November 26 at 7:00 EST / 13:00 CET / 21:00 KST.

32 players double elimination bracket, seeded by EPT points

  • Best of 3 (Bo3) until Winner’s Semifinal and Loser Quarter Final
  • Best of 5 (Bo5) Winner’s Semifinal / Loser Quarter Final / Losers Semifinal
  • Best of 7 (Bo7) Winner’s Final, Loser Final, and Grand Final (Winner’s advantage)
Our previous TSL champion, (Wiki)Trap, has happily accepted his invite. The remaining 31 spots will be open through server qualifiers.

Qualifiers

31 player spots divided amongst 9 server qualifiers (no region restrictions)

  • Tournament platform: Challonge (Tournament Sign-Up Page)
  • All matches Best of 3 (Bo3), Qualifying matches Best of 5 (Bo5)

Server# Qualified# QualifiersSeeding
South Korea103EPT Points
Europe113EPT Points
North America103Aligulac Score

Please note: Players must change their display name when signing up to their player name or risk incorrect seeding. We will not be liable for any incorrect seeding if your player name does not match.

ServerStart TimeQualifier FormatQualified
Europe #1Oct 29 4:00pm GMTDouble EliminationTop 4
Europe #2Oct 30 4:00pm GMTDouble EliminationTop 4
N. America #1Oct 30 10:00pm GMTDouble EliminationTop 4
Korea #1Nov 01 11:00am GMTSingle EliminationTop 4
Korea #2Nov 02 11:00am GMTSingle EliminationTop 4
Korea #3Nov 04 11:00am GMTSingle EliminationTop 2
N. America #2Nov 06 1:00am GMTDouble EliminationTop 3
Europe #3Nov 06 4:00pm GMTDouble EliminationTop 3
N. America #3Nov 06 10:00pm GMTDouble EliminationTop 3

(If a bracket has less than 32 players, the bracket will be converted to Double Elimination)

Community casters who would like to cover the qualifiers should fill out this community caster form at least twenty-four (24) hours before the qualifier(s) you’re planning on covering begins. You must also be a member of the Discord server with your identifying nickname. For non-English coverage of the main event (beginning on November 26th!), please also fill out the form, and we’ll be in touch after the qualifiers wrap up.

Changes Made

The most prominent change is our return to a 32 player bracket. To accommodate the larger bracket without fatiguing players and production, additional tournament days were added, and the amount of Best of 7s was reduced while adding in Best of 3s. A lot of our changes were also driven to counteract player (and production) fatigue, such as starting the event one hour earlier than TSL 7 (from 10 PM KST to 9 PM KST). We hope by making the tournament start time earlier and reducing series length, our players will bring their A-game to each match instead of slogging through the end of the day.

Another major change was made to the qualifiers. Before I dive into it, I would like to thank the numerous players and community members who provided feedback. The region restrictions for the qualifiers were removed and the amount of qualifiers has increased. Each region qualifier was scheduled with consideration to competitors' schedules and availability. More notably though, our North America Server Qualifiers will be the only qualifier not seeded by EPT points. Aligulac score will be used for NA qualifiers due to the wide range of players expected to participate. We hope this will provide fairer seeding.

We have an incredible group working on TSL 8 and we can’t wait to showcase all we’ve prepared. If you happen to have any questions about the tournament, we’ll be happy to answer them here or on our official TSL Discord server. Thanks again to our lovely sponsors, and thank you for your continued support of Team Liquid, TSL, and StarCraft 2.

I’m so happy TSL has become a regular occurrence in SC2 again. I’m especially excited that Team Liquid and TaKeTV are joining forces for this edition. Having two organisations with such deep roots in the StarCraft scene are a perfect match to work together on TSL and I’m looking forward to a really fun event!

— Dario "TLO" Wuensch
Head of Player Development, Shopify Rebellion

See you online!
- TeamLiquid


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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19298 Posts
October 15 2021 12:45 GMT
#2
Hi Olivia! Thanks to you, TL, Shopify, and co. for putting this on! I'm loving the changes and hope they work out the best for everyone.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
October 15 2021 13:09 GMT
#3
NICE!! Can't wait!! Thanks to all involved for making the last one so insanely awesome, can't wait for this event to start!!
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
October 15 2021 14:07 GMT
#4
I realy do like the seeding via Alligulac for the NA qualifier
Thank you very much for all the work
MaxPax
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
October 15 2021 15:06 GMT
#5
Amazing news! And more tournament days! Thank you all involved and gg Sifolyy :D
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vyzion
Profile Joined August 2016
308 Posts
October 15 2021 15:07 GMT
#6
Oh mawwww gawwwwwddddd!!!!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 15 2021 15:08 GMT
#7
Nice, thanks to all involved!
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3435 Posts
October 15 2021 15:52 GMT
#8
Well, with the amount of slots for the tournament, and open-region qualifier, we might as well invite top 16 players in the world (8KR + 8 non-KR) base on EPT pts anyway. While its great to have pretty much everyone who want to play will be able to qualify, it makes the qualification a bit less essential for the most part.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
October 15 2021 16:12 GMT
#9
I swear there is more SC2 content now than there was 10 years ago.

Amazing
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 15 2021 16:14 GMT
#10
This is perfect, thanks to everyone involved!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Falckon
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway30 Posts
October 15 2021 17:07 GMT
#11
Cant wait!
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
October 15 2021 17:11 GMT
#12
TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE <3

Awesome to see TakeTV being the production crew!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 15 2021 17:30 GMT
#13
On October 16 2021 02:11 SmoKim wrote:
TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE <3

Awesome to see TakeTV being the production crew!

I second this! Love Naruto and Take for everything they have done for SC2.

Great to see another TSL. GL HF everyone involved!
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
October 15 2021 18:38 GMT
#14
Is there a liquidpedia page for TSL8 with the prizepool and EPT points breakdown?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 15 2021 18:45 GMT
#15
On October 16 2021 03:38 buzz_bender wrote:
Is there a liquidpedia page for TSL8 with the prizepool and EPT points breakdown?

(Wiki)TeamLiquid StarLeague/8

Page is up but details still being confirmed a bit
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Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3483 Posts
October 15 2021 18:55 GMT
#16
Hype! See you all there.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24234 Posts
October 15 2021 19:01 GMT
#17
wooooohoooooo

nice
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
October 15 2021 19:19 GMT
#18
TSL8 should be great per usual!! Nice return to a 32-player tournament along with TLnet on Twitch will be streaming all of the matches.
FF, KH, Persona, Uncharted, Yakuza | Porter, Illenium, MitiS, Dabin, Seven Lions, Petit Biscuit | Diablo II, SC2 | Pho, sushi, tacos
Liquid`MaNa
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland105 Posts
October 15 2021 20:00 GMT
#19
More TSL hype! Fantastic stuff, really happy to see so many editions of this magnificant tournament.
Team Liquid
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 15 2021 20:06 GMT
#20
YES!!!
Administrator
Judgement
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands152 Posts
October 15 2021 20:25 GMT
#21
hype
"What good fortune for goverments that the people do not think."
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-15 22:51:18
October 15 2021 22:50 GMT
#22
So happy to see TSL continue and be in such good hands. Hopefully I can make it to one of these qualifiers for old times' sake. In any case, I hope you all have a great event!
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
CrowbarBarney
Profile Joined August 2021
9 Posts
October 16 2021 00:47 GMT
#23
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO EXCITED!!!!!!!
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
October 16 2021 04:16 GMT
#24
Huge hype!
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany156 Posts
October 16 2021 06:49 GMT
#25
Wow, that's big!!!
Great tournament, so many days of quality Starcraft and quality production.
Big thanks and hugs to all responsible to make this happen!
Gluon
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands402 Posts
October 16 2021 06:52 GMT
#26
Super awesome to see, thanks for putting this up! And yes NonY please try to qualify :D
Administrator
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1210 Posts
October 16 2021 08:18 GMT
#27
nice!! hype!
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
October 16 2021 09:20 GMT
#28
Happy to hear that! Excited!
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DrunkenJedi
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany175 Posts
October 16 2021 09:46 GMT
#29
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Don't worry, I use Special Tactics this time, no problem."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45028 Posts
October 16 2021 10:05 GMT
#30
Definitely looking forward to this!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
najib__2
Profile Joined September 2021
11 Posts
October 16 2021 15:42 GMT
#31
Nice !!! Pretty hype !
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States878 Posts
October 16 2021 15:53 GMT
#32
Hot damn this was good news to wake up to. Let's GO!!!
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
October 16 2021 16:12 GMT
#33
NOICE! happy hype :D
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
October 16 2021 17:42 GMT
#34
Great news
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 16 2021 20:15 GMT
#35
Everything about this sounds amazing. TakeTV producing, Olimoley as the organiser, earlier start to accomodate Korean players... Yes, yes, and yes!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 16 2021 21:28 GMT
#36
Hell yeah!
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
October 16 2021 23:25 GMT
#37
On October 17 2021 05:15 sneakyfox wrote:
Everything about this sounds amazing. TakeTV producing, Olimoley as the organiser, earlier start to accomodate Korean players... Yes, yes, and yes!

Plus ditching the region lock. Looks to be an all around great tournament.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
October 17 2021 04:32 GMT
#38
Yay more TSLs.

Also yuck at seeding with aligulac score. Why not just EPT points for all of them?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany156 Posts
October 17 2021 05:07 GMT
#39
On October 17 2021 13:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
Yay more TSLs.

Also yuck at seeding with aligulac score. Why not just EPT points for all of them?



Imho seeding by EPT points won't leed to any fair seeding. EPT points depend on region, i.e. ESL Pro Tour and GSL. There is huge difference in point distribution, so you can't compare the points, especially between EPT Korea and EPT World.
For example, 1st place is awarded 825 pts in Korea (GSL), 600pts in EU, 400 pts in NA, 300 pts in LA etc.

Though Aligulac is far from absolut truth, too, it may be a bit less unfair for cross region seeding.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
October 17 2021 07:20 GMT
#40
sounds good
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
October 17 2021 10:26 GMT
#41
On October 16 2021 07:50 NonY wrote:Hopefully I can make it to one of these qualifiers for old times' sake.


Please do this.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2115 Posts
October 17 2021 13:13 GMT
#42
Sweet as
John 15:13
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
October 17 2021 13:20 GMT
#43
On October 17 2021 19:26 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
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On October 16 2021 07:50 NonY wrote:Hopefully I can make it to one of these qualifiers for old times' sake.


Please do this.


I agree, sounds super nostalgic ^^
Clément 화이팅
The_Piper42
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States426 Posts
October 17 2021 20:32 GMT
#44
TSL always hype. I remember the first one way back.
Boxer, White-Ra, Grubby, Flash fighting!
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1801 Posts
October 17 2021 21:37 GMT
#45
GLHF on S8!
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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
October 18 2021 00:57 GMT
#46
Looking forward to this!
iNstiN
Profile Joined March 2012
16 Posts
October 18 2021 05:25 GMT
#47
TSL gives back so much memories throughout the years
https://www.twitch.tv/instin111, literally a wax on wax off diff.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2216 Posts
October 18 2021 06:56 GMT
#48
Yay thanks
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Neojist
Profile Joined October 2020
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-18 11:51:31
October 18 2021 11:50 GMT
#49
LETSS GOOOOOOO! thanks for continuing to support the sc2 scene
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6993 Posts
October 18 2021 13:50 GMT
#50
TSL, TSL, TSL *chanting*

So many tournaments this year to look forward to. Love it!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
October 20 2021 07:15 GMT
#51
Just a friendly reminder that if you applied to be a community caster, you need to be a member of the Discord server with your identifying nickname. I'm aware the Discord links on the announcement post were a little wonky, but they have since been fixed!
Events Manager, Team Liquid - Creator of OlimoLeague
kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
October 21 2021 17:13 GMT
#52
This is going to be great (as usual)!!!

I will be rooting for NonY!!!
"It is not a shameful thing to be unable to reach the goal. It's becoming afraid and running away, even before considering the fact that the road is long and rough, that is truly cowardly." by - Lim Yo Hwan aka SlayerS_Boxer from "Crazy as me"
Immaterial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada510 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-25 15:58:35
October 25 2021 15:56 GMT
#53
On October 16 2021 07:50 NonY wrote:
So happy to see TSL continue and be in such good hands. Hopefully I can make it to one of these qualifiers for old times' sake. In any case, I hope you all have a great event!

That would be so sick, would love to see how you play in the LoTV meta. Best of luck to all the players!
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I would be so happy if there was a Brood War/SCR component to this as well, like a companion tournament. But I can’t complain
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Vladoks
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany136 Posts
October 26 2021 11:02 GMT
#54
Love it and i'm lifetime subbed since first SC2 TSL on that channel too :D
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 29 2021 18:10 GMT
#55
gg's i had some good games it was fun to play a little. i wish the qualifier times had a little more variety. NA ones are only on friday night and weekends. i think this EU #1 was the only one i could go to. gl hf everyone
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
October 29 2021 18:41 GMT
#56
On October 30 2021 03:10 NonY wrote:
gg's i had some good games it was fun to play a little. i wish the qualifier times had a little more variety. NA ones are only on friday night and weekends. i think this EU #1 was the only one i could go to. gl hf everyone

It was great to see you play! Unfortunately we had to schedule them this way due to other tournament conflicts, or other tournaments encroaching on our reserved time frame. Hopefully next time we'll be able to schedule at different times so everyone has an opportunity!
Events Manager, Team Liquid - Creator of OlimoLeague
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5449 Posts
October 29 2021 19:58 GMT
#57
Thanks for running this, and thanks for the changes! (Fewer BO7s, more BO3s etc.)
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
478 Posts
October 29 2021 20:26 GMT
#58
Gogo, lets see if we can have a token toss who will end top 8 later on and cause some terrans to say toss is impossible to beat.
olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-30 15:50:02
October 30 2021 14:45 GMT
#59
Adjustments planned for EU/NA qualifiers

Based on the volume of players we are receiving and the amount of forfeits we're seeing in the lower bracket, the following adjustments will be made to EU and NA qualifiers:

If the participant pool is higher than 32 players, the bracket will revert to Single Elimination to Round of 16, then double elimination onward

Adjustments made to all qualifiers

All qualifying matches will be Best of 5 (Bo5).

These changes will be made effective immediately, with the next qualifier EU Qualifier #2 ()
Events Manager, Team Liquid - Creator of OlimoLeague
ilax300
Profile Joined January 2021
15 Posts
October 30 2021 19:59 GMT
#60
On October 30 2021 05:26 aringadingding wrote:
Gogo, lets see if we can have a token toss who will end top 8 later on and cause some terrans to say toss is impossible to beat.


Looking at the qualies results its already happening
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-31 22:15:45
October 31 2021 22:15 GMT
#61
On October 30 2021 03:41 olimoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2021 03:10 NonY wrote:
gg's i had some good games it was fun to play a little. i wish the qualifier times had a little more variety. NA ones are only on friday night and weekends. i think this EU #1 was the only one i could go to. gl hf everyone

It was great to see you play! Unfortunately we had to schedule them this way due to other tournament conflicts, or other tournaments encroaching on our reserved time frame. Hopefully next time we'll be able to schedule at different times so everyone has an opportunity!

well it would've been as simple as swapping one of the EU ones with one of the NA ones, not changing any times. or implement some things like server swapping between games or playing on a server in between the players so the latency discrepancy is smaller

regardless im sure the tournament will have a strong field so the qualifiers will successfully serve their primary purpose
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Ivymeilna
Profile Joined November 2021
6 Posts
November 01 2021 08:21 GMT
#62
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