• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:42
CET 11:42
KST 19:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation13Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle What happened to TvZ on Retro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread About SC2SEA.COM Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2176 users

Code S Season 3 - RO16 Group B Preview

Forum Index > SC2 General
13 CommentsPost a Reply

Code S Season 3 - RO16 Group B Preview

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
August 31st, 2021 22:31 GMT

2021 GSL Code S Season 3

by Poopi

After advancing from Group A, both Trap and Zest said they'd be okay with facing anyone but Maru in the playoffs. On Thursday night, we'll see which of the two Protosses will get to celebrate—or if both will end up having their wish come true after a series of wild upsets.

[image loading]

More info: GSL Code S Season 3 on Liquipedia

RO16 Group B: Maru, Solar, sOs, Dream

Match time: Thursday, Sep 02 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

At first glance, Maru and Solar appear to be the favorites in the group, standing at #5 and #10 in the Aligulac.com rankings compared to Dream and sOs at #19 and #20.

However, there are a number of complicating factors that make the results tricky to predict. Not only do the players have to contend with sOs being his usual unpredictable self, but the two Terrans have to be fearful of his disproportionately powerful, #4 ranked PvT (just below Trap). I doubt Dream has any shot versus TvT master Maru, but his GSL track record says he could be a tough challenge for sOs or Solar. And while Solar might be the second strongest player on paper, he has the disadvantage of having to face his biggest hurdle in Maru in his very first match.

Speaking of Maru vs Solar, the 4-time Code S champ has really enjoyed picking on Solar during the group selections over the years. Even in his Code A interview, Solar seemed sadly resigned to getting selected by his nemesis once more, with Maru later acknowledging that Solar was indeed the obvious choice (though Maru has passed up on Solar for tastier players like Patience and RagnaroK in the past). However, the fact that Maru loves to pick Solar as a Code S opponent, and that Solar gets so depressed each time, seems to fly in the face of statistics.

Sure, Maru has a strong record in career head-to-heads against Solar at 49 map wins and 27 losses (64.47% winrate), but in just GSL matches, they’re almost dead even with Solar leading 5W–4L in matches while Maru leads 13W–12L in maps. Maru actually got eliminated when he picked Solar in 2020’s Code S Season 2, losing his initial match to Maru and then getting finished off by Trap (alas, Solar was eliminated as well). More recently, the KaiZi Gaming Zerg managed to beat Maru 3-1 in NeXT Season 1.

There's not much separating the two players in terms of Aligulac.com TvZ rating either, with Maru standing at 3189 points while Solar trails with 3072. In fact, Solar actually leads in terms of pure win percentage in 2021, with a 92W–43L record (68.15% match winrate) while Maru trails at 10W–6L (62.50%)—though that's mostly attributable to the fact that Solar plays in online cups while Maru plays almost solely in major tournaments.

It's understandable if Solar is still traumatized from being on the receiving end of the biggest nuke in pro-SC2 history, but his defeatist attitude ahead of matches with Maru seems somewhat unwarranted. Of course, Maru is still the favorite here, but Solar has proven on plenty of occasions that he has more than a fighting chance.

The second match of the group should be more clear cut, considering how much of a juggernaut sOs has been in PvT. In 2021, he sports an impressive 36W–17L (67.92% win-rate) map record and 13W–4L (76.47%) match record, which earned him the #4 spot in the PvT rankings as mentioned earlier. sOs' last PvT loss came almost six months ago, and he's currently on a ten match winning streak (albeit, he tied 1-1 versus Cure in July's WTL playoffs). The high point of that streak was a 2-1 victory over Maru in the group stage of Code S Season 2, though Maru had the excuse of having played Reynor in the DH Summer Finals just a day prior.

The situation just doesn't look too good for Dream, especially since he has to prepare all three match-ups while sOs and Solar only have to focus on two. While one can dig for reasons to be optimistic about Dream's chances, they might all end up being fool's gold. For example, Dream actually did take consecutive BO5 victories against sOs earlier this year at GSL Super Tournament 1 (3-1) and IEM Katowice (3-2). That made me think he had a real shot at winning when they met again in Super Tournament 2, but that time, sOs took his revenge with a 2-0 victory in the qualifier and a 3-0 smashing in the main event.

One could also point out that Dream qualified for this season of Code S on the back of TvP alone, going 6W–0L in matches and 13W–5L in maps. However, a look at the match list shows that he beat the likes of Prince and Gyulzzing, with Classic and Creator being his toughest opponents. Classic might be a Protoss legend of the past, but he is still a very early military returnee at the moment so he can hardly be compared to sOs. And even Creator, who is a fringe Code S player, managed to take Dream to five games in their Code A match.

As for the rest of the matches, I do not see Maru losing to sOs in a rematch from Season 2, even though Aliguliac.com rates sOs' PvT so highly as to give Maru only a 52.81% chance of winning. Last time, Maru had to prepare for the DreamHack Season Finals at the same time—now, he'll be able to focus solely on GSL, and I predict he'll advance in first place with relative ease. Solar vs Dream is another potentially close match, but I'll go chalk on this one and pick Solar—I figure he'll have more of his mental intact after a match with Maru, compared to Dream after facing sOs' underhanded tactics. Dream vs Maru could actually be the most one-sided match of the night, with Maru being 13W–1L in TvT in 2021 and undefeated since February (losing only to TY).

Finally, a Solar vs sOs clash should go comfortably in the Zerg's favor—sOs' match-up strengths are absurdly skewed in favor of his PvT at the moment, while his PvZ is actually rated below Creator at the moment.

Put it all together, and I still see Maru and Solar advancing side by side as the most likely outcome, even after they face each other in their first match. Then again, hunter and prey managed to both get eliminated back in Code S Season 2 of 2020, so maybe Dream and sOs have the wherewithal to make history repeat itself.

Predictions: Maru and Solar to advance.



Credits and acknowledgements

Writer: Poopi
Editor: Wax
Images: AfreecaTV
Records and Statistics: Aligulac.com and Liquipedia

Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-31 22:49:08
August 31 2021 22:39 GMT
#2
This is one of the most hype GSL group in a while for me, there's some favorites but every match could go either way. (And there's no pvp and zvz!)
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33488 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-01 00:46:09
September 01 2021 00:45 GMT
#3
Dream's recent stats are bad, but he and the other players implied he was taking it easy in the weeks between the GSL's. I think he'll put up a bigger fight than expected if he's practicing hard.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
September 01 2021 02:04 GMT
#4
This one seems a lot harder to call than the prior group—I agree that Solar absolutely could beat Maru, which depending on how sOs performs could mean his elimination. Honestly, I'm just hoping that Solar can avoid his usual hard fought third place.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
September 01 2021 02:16 GMT
#5
sOs is looking like the best he has been in a long time. I’d love to see him make top 4 this season. Solar has been underperforming this entire year and will probably do so again.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3437 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-01 03:34:44
September 01 2021 03:30 GMT
#6
While I like Maru coming out in first, that also means he will face Trap early in the Ro.8, but I wished to see them fight in the Grand Finals.
Also, I dont think SOS can beat Solar in PvZ, but his PvT is pretty great, remember he almost 2-0 Cure in WTL until he forgot to research Warp Gate. On the other hand, Dream has a pretty good chance against Solar if he plays solid, so its coming down a lot of the result of the first 2 match.
SOS is likely to beat Dream, if Solar lose to Maru, he might have to fought hard against Dream in the Elimination match. Otherwise, Solar will get 1st place over SOS and Maru will have to come out in 2nd place.
EzioAs
Profile Joined September 2017
235 Posts
September 01 2021 06:38 GMT
#7
sOs advances first, Solar in second. You heard it here first.
花は桜木人は武士
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
September 01 2021 08:06 GMT
#8
Maru first, then somewhat also Maru second. You heard it here first.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12905 Posts
September 01 2021 08:16 GMT
#9
This group is gonna make (into 12) or break my 10 correct predictions in liquibets, hopefully Maru delivers
WriterMaru
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
September 01 2021 09:06 GMT
#10
Heart: Solar 1st place
Head: Solar 3rd place

Given that sOs has looked decent recently I'm not gonna pretend to know any more of how this is gonna go.
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
September 01 2021 09:17 GMT
#11
On September 01 2021 12:30 tigera6 wrote:
While I like Maru coming out in first, that also means he will face Trap early in the Ro.8, but I wished to see them fight in the Grand Finals.
Also, I dont think SOS can beat Solar in PvZ, but his PvT is pretty great, remember he almost 2-0 Cure in WTL until he forgot to research Warp Gate. On the other hand, Dream has a pretty good chance against Solar if he plays solid, so its coming down a lot of the result of the first 2 match.
SOS is likely to beat Dream, if Solar lose to Maru, he might have to fought hard against Dream in the Elimination match. Otherwise, Solar will get 1st place over SOS and Maru will have to come out in 2nd place.

The Trap vs Maru ro8 would be great. I do like Trap's second place streak but I also want Maru in the finals again. Which is the better story?

I also wonder how sOs feels about not being the player that everyone wants to avoid. He is a lot better now than he was the past couple of years.

Side note: it's "sOs", not "SOS". Only the O is in caps. The other letters are lower case. Two lower case s and one caps O.
Random Platinum EU
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
September 01 2021 11:56 GMT
#12
On September 01 2021 09:45 Waxangel wrote:
Dream's recent stats are bad, but he and the other players implied he was taking it easy in the weeks between the GSL's. I think he'll put up a bigger fight than expected if he's practicing hard.


I expect Dream to put on a good performance, personally. But what that looks like in terms of predictions, I have no idea. I can even imagine a world in which he comes out first: say he beats sOs, then beats Solar in the winner's match. This would probably depend on Solar only having Maru-specific ZvT prep, and Dream being in better general TvZ shape. It's not my guess about the most likely scenario, but I think it's possible. Of course, beating sOs in the first place would depend on a lot of factors, including which version of both players shows up... I'll be really interested in seeing how Dream does either way, though. I was not a big Dream fan what he was at his previous peak, but he's growing on me this time.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
September 01 2021 16:55 GMT
#13
Head: Maru 1st, Solar 2nd
Heart: Solar 1st, sOs 2nd
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
wchigo
Profile Joined September 2010
China71 Posts
September 03 2021 15:44 GMT
#14
Head: Maru, Solar
Heart: Maru, Dream

(Should’ve went with my heart in liquibets…)
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 18m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech83
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 36403
Calm 6642
Sea 5741
Horang2 1010
Jaedong 990
Shuttle 873
Larva 503
EffOrt 273
Soma 252
Zeus 226
[ Show more ]
Light 202
Pusan 182
Stork 162
Killer 155
ZerO 116
Rush 97
Mind 90
ToSsGirL 49
yabsab 44
Hm[arnc] 11
Noble 9
ivOry 7
Dota 2
XaKoH 448
XcaliburYe100
febbydoto19
League of Legends
Reynor101
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1504
shoxiejesuss721
zeus176
allub91
Other Games
summit1g16620
ceh9517
Fuzer 276
crisheroes242
Pyrionflax196
rGuardiaN156
ZerO(Twitch)11
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream6982
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream5809
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 96
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH280
• LUISG 32
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 372
League of Legends
• Stunt574
• HappyZerGling155
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
1h 18m
Monday Night Weeklies
6h 18m
Replay Cast
12h 18m
ChoboTeamLeague
14h 18m
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 1h
BSL: GosuLeague
1d 10h
The PondCast
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Reynor
Maru vs SHIN
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
BSL: GosuLeague
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
RSL Revival
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
IPSL
6 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.