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IEM Katowice 2021 - Casters and Schedule announced - Page 2
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JimmonRH
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geokilla
Canada8246 Posts
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Elentos
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To adapt to the changing landscape the schedule will be adjusted to play on February 20-28. These three additional days are added to account for schedules around the world to allow players to compete at more comfortable times in their local time. ESL in February: same schedule for every day Not complaining, just entertained. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On February 19 2021 02:04 Elentos wrote: ESL in January: ESL in February: same schedule for every day Not complaining, just entertained. I never expected them to start on different times over the days. It would honestly make 0 sense. For the viewers. And also for the players, as it would absolutly mess with everyones sleep schedule. I always interpreted that statement as "we try to avoid absolutly horrednus hours for all players and have shorter days" Like if you have 6h of broadcast time instead of 10, you can cut the most extreme hours for the players. E.: didn t check the times before, but 15:00 - 19:00 European Time sounds pretty reasonable to me. It s 23:00 - 03:00 for Koreans. Not great for sure. But it s also 9:00 - 13:00 Eastern Time and 6:00 - 10:00 Pacific time. (I belive) So there is not realy a way to start any earlier. Earlier it would be pretty bad for viewership as well, so I think it is as good as it is going to get for online play. | ||
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tommey.liang
United States363 Posts
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TanksALot
United States153 Posts
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Woosixion
120 Posts
On February 18 2021 20:07 rednusa wrote: It is a bit sad and surprising but when was the last time Tastosis casted an online tournament? I honestly can't remember ever casting online stuff. True, I thought this was supposed to basically blizzcon tho, the best tournament without the best casters just feels wrong  While we're on the subject I feel like the pre-requisites for casting have really gone down the gutter, part of why Tastosis is so good is because they're former pros, but not to name names there's some casters there who aren't even masters, hard to give any good insights when you dont understand the game at least at a masters lvl IMO | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1281 Posts
On February 19 2021 06:28 Woosixion wrote: True, I thought this was supposed to basically blizzcon tho, the best tournament without the best casters just feels wrong While we're on the subject I feel like the pre-requisites for casting have really gone down the gutter, part of why Tastosis is so good is because they're former pros, but not to name names there's some casters there who aren't even masters, hard to give any good insights when you dont understand the game at least at a masters lvl IMO You don't really have to play at a high level to be entertaining. And even if you actually are lacking in the "insight-departement", you can compensate that with the other shoutcaster. Also as far as I know Tasteless never was a SC2 pro and Artosis wasn't that succesful in it either...neither were RotterdaM, ToD or even more oldschool casters like Kaelaris or Apollo. Never was an issue before, don't know why it should be now. | ||
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StalkyBear
55 Posts
On February 18 2021 23:55 1gragequit wrote: Would rather pair a pro with Creighton and Grant but w/e. I like Grant and CO. Maybe it's a bit controversial to say but I do wish that main stage was based on the previous year's commitment to SC2 and not on other factors. I won't name names but there's some main stage casters that have contributed a lot less to SC2 in the last year than someone like Creighton. SC2 is a bit of an old boys' club where everyone involved in the event are friends and it makes it hard for grassroots talent to make an impact. And it also leads to complacency and kind of meh casting. I'd rather have people fully committed on the main stage than people who cared about SC2 a few years ago and is casting to pay the bills and because they're friends with Apollo. This describes Tastosis really really well. Too much job security is not always a good thing. I like the lineup they have tho ToD woulda been cool too. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On February 18 2021 23:55 1gragequit wrote: Would rather pair a pro with Creighton and Grant but w/e. I like Grant and CO. Maybe it's a bit controversial to say but I do wish that main stage was based on the previous year's commitment to SC2 and not on other factors. I won't name names but there's some main stage casters that have contributed a lot less to SC2 in the last year than someone like Creighton. SC2 is a bit of an old boys' club where everyone involved in the event are friends and it makes it hard for grassroots talent to make an impact. And it also leads to complacency and kind of meh casting. I'd rather have people fully committed on the main stage than people who cared about SC2 a few years ago and is casting to pay the bills and because they're friends with Apollo. For me personally, Creighton and Grant are cool personas, but they are just impossible to listen to. And I like all the other casters much better so quite happy with the lineup | ||
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Archerylady
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Nothera
Czech Republic14 Posts
On February 18 2021 23:55 1gragequit wrote: Would rather pair a pro with Creighton and Grant but w/e. I like Grant and CO. Maybe it's a bit controversial to say but I do wish that main stage was based on the previous year's commitment to SC2 and not on other factors. I won't name names but there's some main stage casters that have contributed a lot less to SC2 in the last year than someone like Creighton. SC2 is a bit of an old boys' club where everyone involved in the event are friends and it makes it hard for grassroots talent to make an impact. And it also leads to complacency and kind of meh casting. I'd rather have people fully committed on the main stage than people who cared about SC2 a few years ago and is casting to pay the bills and because they're friends with Apollo. Couldn't agree more. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7154 Posts
On February 19 2021 02:42 dbRic1203 wrote: I never expected them to start on different times over the days. It would honestly make 0 sense. For the viewers. And also for the players, as it would absolutly mess with everyones sleep schedule. I always interpreted that statement as "we try to avoid absolutly horrednus hours for all players and have shorter days" Like if you have 6h of broadcast time instead of 10, you can cut the most extreme hours for the players. E.: didn t check the times before, but 15:00 - 19:00 European Time sounds pretty reasonable to me. It s 23:00 - 03:00 for Koreans. Not great for sure. But it s also 9:00 - 13:00 Eastern Time and 6:00 - 10:00 Pacific time. (I belive) So there is not realy a way to start any earlier. Earlier it would be pretty bad for viewership as well, so I think it is as good as it is going to get for online play. Well, me personally I rather watch and play from 23:00 - 03:00 than 06:00 - 10:00 So it's not Korean players that are fckd but players in California. Ofc if the day will become really long it will get worse for Koreans | ||
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baiesradu
Romania150 Posts
Happy to see the B stream option and C might be very interesting if they try to do a good job. The "A" list have ruined so many games for me I consoled myself with only watching GSL which I really enjoy for so many reasons but now I think maybe I will definitely give B stream a shot. I don't know who grant is but olsen loves starcraft and his job as much as I want someone in that position to love those things. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7154 Posts
On February 19 2021 20:48 baiesradu wrote: I am not watching A stream and if I am it's on mute for as long as I can take it. Happy to see the B stream option and C might be very interesting if they try to do a good job. The "A" list have ruined so many games for me I consoled myself with only watching GSL which I really enjoy for so many reasons but now I think maybe I will definitely give B stream a shot. I don't know who grant is but olsen loves starcraft and his job as much as I want someone in that position to love those things. A has some nice talent as well. Rotti is awesome. PiG is really nice to listen too. Wardi is a bit troubled by his solo casting all the time but really good in general. Harstem and Lambo casting will be my highlight though <3 Hope Lambo will cast lots of ZvX | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On February 19 2021 02:42 dbRic1203 wrote: I never expected them to start on different times over the days. It would honestly make 0 sense. For the viewers. And also for the players, as it would absolutly mess with everyones sleep schedule. I always interpreted that statement as "we try to avoid absolutly horrednus hours for all players and have shorter days" Like if you have 6h of broadcast time instead of 10, you can cut the most extreme hours for the players. E.: didn t check the times before, but 15:00 - 19:00 European Time sounds pretty reasonable to me. It s 23:00 - 03:00 for Koreans. Not great for sure. But it s also 9:00 - 13:00 Eastern Time and 6:00 - 10:00 Pacific time. (I belive) So there is not realy a way to start any earlier. Earlier it would be pretty bad for viewership as well, so I think it is as good as it is going to get for online play. I mean kudos to whoever came up with the idea of 3 pm CET starts. That has to be the perfect compromise time that everyone is okay with but doesn't make anyone particularly happy. On February 19 2021 18:29 Harris1st wrote: To be fair Koreans (+ people in Korea or a similar time zone) are the majority of people in the tournament and players in California are just Astrea. So California would definitely lose a popular vote Well, me personally I rather watch and play from 23:00 - 03:00 than 06:00 - 10:00 So it's not Korean players that are fckd but players in California.  Also the idea of Artosis casting the IEM Katowice finals from home at like 3 AM KST and everyone having to be very quiet because he has 4 kids amuses me. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On February 19 2021 22:33 Elentos wrote: I mean kudos to whoever came up with the idea of 3 pm CET starts. That has to be the perfect compromise time that everyone is okay with but doesn't make anyone particularly happy. To be fair Koreans (+ people in Korea or a similar time zone) are the majority of people in the tournament and players in California are just Astrea. So California would definitely lose a popular vote Also the idea of Artosis casting the IEM Katowice finals from home at like 3 AM KST and everyone having to be very quiet because he has 4 kids amuses me. So you would suggest the "fuck | ||
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MKStyles
106 Posts
On February 18 2021 16:05 shadow4723 wrote: all of SC2's finest! nah no tastosis | ||
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ExpatRights
53 Posts
On February 19 2021 01:42 geokilla wrote: Koreans having to play through the night. Brutal. Yea Western organizers are always such jerks to Asian players heh. Especially considering almost none of the EU folks even have a chance.. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On February 19 2021 22:38 dbRic1203 wrote: So you would suggest the "fuck No it's perfect actually, if they start an hour earlier I'll miss more because of work that I'll have to catch up on | ||
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