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 Trap was finally able to end his run of second place finishes in major competitions, defeating Dark 3-2 in the grand finals of Netease Esports X Tournaments (NeXT) Winter. The former Jin Air player turned free agent defeated Bunny and INnoVation in the group stages, and proceeded to run through Stats, TIME, and Dark in the playoffs. Trap won ¥50,000 yuan (~$7,655 USD) in prize money for his first place finish.![[image loading]](/staff/Waxangel/misc/nextwinter_2020groups.png) 
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TheCheapSkate
Slovenia316 Posts
Jokes aside, congratulations to Trap, im super happy for him. | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On December 07 2020 05:24 TheCheapSkate wrote: What is this? A protoss win? Time for a nerf blizzard!! Jokes aside, congratulations to Trap, im super happy for him. To be fair it's not a premier! | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Zzzapper
1796 Posts
Going by prize pool, it's very close given that all of Taeja's 10k wins are considered to be premiers | ||
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tommey.liang
United States363 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
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aringadingding
476 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4953 Posts
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Rubicant1
115 Posts
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QOGQOG
834 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
this is a major tournament, not a premier tournament -_- | ||
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xelnaga_empire
627 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On December 07 2020 17:40 xelnaga_empire wrote: 1st place prize for this is more than TLS and ASUG ROG. This is a nice win by Protoss. Protoss has always been able to win as this tournament shows. And Protoss has made the finals of many, many, tournaments over the last 3 years. I want to point out the difference between this and premier tournaments - this finals was a Bo5, not a Bo7 | ||
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Elentos
55553 Posts
On December 07 2020 17:45 BerserkSword wrote: I want to point out the difference between this and premier tournaments - this finals was a Bo5, not a Bo7 ASUS ROG isn't a Premier on Liquipedia either | ||
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Zambrah
United States7328 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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Dave4
494 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Glad to see him win although he deserves something bigger! | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On December 07 2020 17:58 Elentos wrote: ASUS ROG isn't a Premier on Liquipedia either Really? Asus ROG was the best tournmanet of the year. | ||
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xelnaga_empire
627 Posts
On December 07 2020 17:45 BerserkSword wrote: I want to point out the difference between this and premier tournaments - this finals was a Bo5, not a Bo7 The 1st place prize for Netease was more than other premier tournaments. Almost all of the best Koreans participated in this tournament. Best of 5 for the finals is irrelevant, that's just the tournament format. A Protoss won a tournament with a higher 1st place prize that is higher than many of the other tournaments now, with most of the best Koreans participating in it, trying to win that 1st place as well. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15972 Posts
On December 07 2020 17:45 BerserkSword wrote: I want to point out the difference between this and premier tournaments - this finals was a Bo5, not a Bo7 some of Taeja's victories had also a bo5 finals. But I think we shouldn't pay too much attention to what Liquipedia considers "premier" anyway as it's a kinda meaningless term - this tournament was easily on the level of some tournaments which are considered "premier". | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4953 Posts
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darklycid
3512 Posts
On December 07 2020 22:26 Argonauta wrote: People is reluctant to give this tournament the credit it deserves because it was not marketed and produced for a western audience. That' it. Pretty much, but i wanna keep my protoss never wins memes so obv. not prestigious enough  | ||
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xelnaga_empire
627 Posts
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darklycid
3512 Posts
On December 07 2020 22:54 xelnaga_empire wrote: So to put this in perspective, first place for Netease was $7,655. First place for TSL 6 and ASUS ROG is $6000. So Netease paid out more for first place than either TSL 6, or ASUS ROG, and a Protoss won Netease.. Netease paid less out overall than tsl6 tho (15k vs 30k) but about the same as ASUS, but the perceived prestige was lower (probably also because pretty much kr/cn only event). | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15972 Posts
On December 07 2020 23:20 darklycid wrote: Netease paid less out overall than tsl6 tho (15k vs 30k) but about the same as ASUS, but the perceived prestige was lower (probably also because pretty much kr/cn only event). don't think Trap cares about how much the ro8 players earned | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 07 2020 21:25 xelnaga_empire wrote: The 1st place prize for Netease was more than other premier tournaments. Almost all of the best Koreans participated in this tournament. Best of 5 for the finals is irrelevant, that's just the tournament format. A Protoss won a tournament with a higher 1st place prize that is higher than many of the other tournaments now, with most of the best Koreans participating in it, trying to win that 1st place as well. Of course tournament format and having bo3 playoffs and a bo5 finals is relevant, why would it not be? You'll get more upsets with a format like this. I do think the event was pretty good/prestigious, but the format does take a bit away from it. Using this to argue that 'Protoss has always been able to win' is still really dumb though. Sure they can win, but not very often--and that's after Protoss has gotten a bunch of buffs and zerg nerfs. If anything this underscores how utterly screwed Protoss was a year ago. | ||
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darklycid
3512 Posts
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pzlama333
United States277 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 08 2020 13:39 pzlama333 wrote: Whether some of you agree or does not agree this tournament should be premium, I believe the organizer should apply for EPT points at least. The tournament wouldn't be eligible without significant changes--they'd have to do invites according to ESL rules, qualifiers on multiple servers and so on. It doesn't make sense for them to do so. Not everything needs to be part of EPT. | ||
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xelnaga_empire
627 Posts
On December 08 2020 00:15 Charoisaur wrote: don't think Trap cares about how much the ro8 players earned Exactly. Trap made more money that if he had won 1st place in TSL or ASUS ROG. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On December 07 2020 22:26 Argonauta wrote: People is reluctant to give this tournament the credit it deserves because it was not marketed and produced for a western audience. That' it. Nobody isn't giving it credit. It's obviously a nice tournament to win from a professional player standpoint and even a fan standpoint. What people in this topic are saying is that using this tournament as evidence that "Protoss had it in them to win a championship the entire time" is flawed. This was a Bo5 finals of a smaller online tournament, among other things. | ||
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