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op11er
Profile Joined August 2019
3 Posts
November 30 2020 23:18 GMT
#21
Lotta KR ppl are assuming this is basically the Korean version of Kaizi or DPG cuz it's possible it's run by a few people with a single-person budget purely through passion and almost no aim in profit. But the downside is that they've already made a few controversies in the KR community + Percival's constant infamous ladder BM, so their image is worse than Team GP in a way.

Probably the only team Korean fanbase actually considers a real 'pro-team' is Afreeca Freecs and that's it.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
November 30 2020 23:43 GMT
#22
when memes become reality
very illegal and very uncool
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
December 01 2020 00:09 GMT
#23
On December 01 2020 08:18 op11er wrote:
Lotta KR ppl are assuming this is basically the Korean version of Kaizi or DPG cuz it's possible it's run by a few people with a single-person budget purely through passion and almost no aim in profit. But the downside is that they've already made a few controversies in the KR community + Percival's constant infamous ladder BM, so their image is worse than Team GP in a way.

Probably the only team Korean fanbase actually considers a real 'pro-team' is Afreeca Freecs and that's it.

If they have a Korean IDra, I approve this team even moar!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
December 01 2020 00:29 GMT
#24
On December 01 2020 09:09 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 08:18 op11er wrote:
Lotta KR ppl are assuming this is basically the Korean version of Kaizi or DPG cuz it's possible it's run by a few people with a single-person budget purely through passion and almost no aim in profit. But the downside is that they've already made a few controversies in the KR community + Percival's constant infamous ladder BM, so their image is worse than Team GP in a way.

Probably the only team Korean fanbase actually considers a real 'pro-team' is Afreeca Freecs and that's it.

If they have a Korean IDra, I approve this team even moar!

Well its not enough to just be a douche to be an Idra, you need to be both a douche and a dominant champion.

If you only have the douche part of Idra you're pretty much just an Avilo.

Either way, great pickups for NV happy to see most of Jinair didn't take long to find new homes.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
December 01 2020 02:51 GMT
#25
So this only leaves Trap as the only teamless. Question is who will pick Trap? Will it be liquid?
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
kkapi
Profile Joined June 2019
China8 Posts
December 01 2020 03:08 GMT
#26
On December 01 2020 11:51 SamirDuran wrote:
So this only leaves Trap as the only teamless. Question is who will pick Trap? Will it be liquid?


Most likely DPG. Scboy hinted they signed two big names. Just wonder why they didn't announce along with Rogue.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2465 Posts
December 01 2020 05:27 GMT
#27
On December 01 2020 12:08 kkapi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 11:51 SamirDuran wrote:
So this only leaves Trap as the only teamless. Question is who will pick Trap? Will it be liquid?


Most likely DPG. Scboy hinted they signed two big names. Just wonder why they didn't announce along with Rogue.


Maybe Trap want better negotiation while Rogue straightly agreed with the offer.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2220 Posts
December 01 2020 08:00 GMT
#28
wowza
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1005 Posts
December 01 2020 08:05 GMT
#29
Good for them, hope they can continue to practice and put out high quality games
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-01 08:24:41
December 01 2020 08:24 GMT
#30
On December 01 2020 08:18 op11er wrote:
Lotta KR ppl are assuming this is basically the Korean version of Kaizi or DPG cuz it's possible it's run by a few people with a single-person budget purely through passion and almost no aim in profit. But the downside is that they've already made a few controversies in the KR community + Percival's constant infamous ladder BM, so their image is worse than Team GP in a way.

Probably the only team Korean fanbase actually considers a real 'pro-team' is Afreeca Freecs and that's it.


Wow didn t think that was possible. From all I ve heared so far about Team GP, it s not been pretty so far.
MaxPax
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
December 01 2020 10:43 GMT
#31
On December 01 2020 14:27 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 12:08 kkapi wrote:
On December 01 2020 11:51 SamirDuran wrote:
So this only leaves Trap as the only teamless. Question is who will pick Trap? Will it be liquid?


Most likely DPG. Scboy hinted they signed two big names. Just wonder why they didn't announce along with Rogue.


Maybe Trap want better negotiation while Rogue straightly agreed with the offer.

Considering Rogue actually wins things, although he's not so consistent in form, he may have received a very good offer.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
December 01 2020 10:49 GMT
#32
On December 01 2020 19:43 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 14:27 swarminfestor wrote:
On December 01 2020 12:08 kkapi wrote:
On December 01 2020 11:51 SamirDuran wrote:
So this only leaves Trap as the only teamless. Question is who will pick Trap? Will it be liquid?


Most likely DPG. Scboy hinted they signed two big names. Just wonder why they didn't announce along with Rogue.


Maybe Trap want better negotiation while Rogue straightly agreed with the offer.

Considering Rogue actually wins things, although he's not so consistent in form, he may have received a very good offer.


Rogue is also going to the military next year right? Its understandable he didn't want things to drag on.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
December 01 2020 14:03 GMT
#33
On December 01 2020 19:49 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 19:43 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 01 2020 14:27 swarminfestor wrote:
On December 01 2020 12:08 kkapi wrote:
On December 01 2020 11:51 SamirDuran wrote:
So this only leaves Trap as the only teamless. Question is who will pick Trap? Will it be liquid?


Most likely DPG. Scboy hinted they signed two big names. Just wonder why they didn't announce along with Rogue.


Maybe Trap want better negotiation while Rogue straightly agreed with the offer.

Considering Rogue actually wins things, although he's not so consistent in form, he may have received a very good offer.


Rogue is also going to the military next year right? Its understandable he didn't want things to drag on.


No the 1994 players should be able to play into 2022. (Stats is 1992)
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
December 01 2020 19:57 GMT
#34
On December 01 2020 19:49 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 19:43 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 01 2020 14:27 swarminfestor wrote:
On December 01 2020 12:08 kkapi wrote:
On December 01 2020 11:51 SamirDuran wrote:
So this only leaves Trap as the only teamless. Question is who will pick Trap? Will it be liquid?


Most likely DPG. Scboy hinted they signed two big names. Just wonder why they didn't announce along with Rogue.


Maybe Trap want better negotiation while Rogue straightly agreed with the offer.

Considering Rogue actually wins things, although he's not so consistent in form, he may have received a very good offer.


Rogue is also going to the military next year right? Its understandable he didn't want things to drag on.

I really think they just threw money in the Rogue's direction. He's the current WC, he's S2 Code S champ. He's not as stable in the form as Trap, but he has results and he has the best results in the LotV. Multiple WC, multiple Code S champ, some other random thropies or good results.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-01 23:22:48
December 01 2020 23:21 GMT
#35
Rogue was born in January 1994, actual age should be more relevant than year of birth for what concerns military service; he would be older than 28 at Katowice 2022, his presence at the event shouldn't be taken for granted.

As for Rogue having the best results in LoTV, let's say it's your opinion.
ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
December 02 2020 04:07 GMT
#36
On December 01 2020 19:49 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 19:43 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 01 2020 14:27 swarminfestor wrote:
On December 01 2020 12:08 kkapi wrote:
On December 01 2020 11:51 SamirDuran wrote:
So this only leaves Trap as the only teamless. Question is who will pick Trap? Will it be liquid?


Most likely DPG. Scboy hinted they signed two big names. Just wonder why they didn't announce along with Rogue.


Maybe Trap want better negotiation while Rogue straightly agreed with the offer.

Considering Rogue actually wins things, although he's not so consistent in form, he may have received a very good offer.


Rogue is also going to the military next year right? Its understandable he didn't want things to drag on.


Rogue is exempt from military service because of a health condition.
CJ herO #1 fan.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
December 02 2020 05:03 GMT
#37
On December 02 2020 13:07 ZAWGURN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 19:49 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On December 01 2020 19:43 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 01 2020 14:27 swarminfestor wrote:
On December 01 2020 12:08 kkapi wrote:
On December 01 2020 11:51 SamirDuran wrote:
So this only leaves Trap as the only teamless. Question is who will pick Trap? Will it be liquid?


Most likely DPG. Scboy hinted they signed two big names. Just wonder why they didn't announce along with Rogue.


Maybe Trap want better negotiation while Rogue straightly agreed with the offer.

Considering Rogue actually wins things, although he's not so consistent in form, he may have received a very good offer.


Rogue is also going to the military next year right? Its understandable he didn't want things to drag on.


Rogue is exempt from military service because of a health condition.


It was written on his Liquipedia page before but I remember not finding it anymore; what's your source?
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2465 Posts
December 02 2020 05:41 GMT
#38
On December 02 2020 13:07 ZAWGURN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 19:49 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On December 01 2020 19:43 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 01 2020 14:27 swarminfestor wrote:
On December 01 2020 12:08 kkapi wrote:
On December 01 2020 11:51 SamirDuran wrote:
So this only leaves Trap as the only teamless. Question is who will pick Trap? Will it be liquid?


Most likely DPG. Scboy hinted they signed two big names. Just wonder why they didn't announce along with Rogue.


Maybe Trap want better negotiation while Rogue straightly agreed with the offer.

Considering Rogue actually wins things, although he's not so consistent in form, he may have received a very good offer.


Rogue is also going to the military next year right? Its understandable he didn't want things to drag on.


Rogue is exempt from military service because of a health condition.


Is that so?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-02 07:42:56
December 02 2020 07:42 GMT
#39
On December 02 2020 08:21 Xain0n wrote:
Rogue was born in January 1994, actual age should be more relevant than year of birth for what concerns military service; he would be older than 28 at Katowice 2022, his presence at the event shouldn't be taken for granted.

As for Rogue having the best results in LoTV, let's say it's your opinion.

Name other 3-time world champion and multiple code s champion from LotV. That's right, you can't. rogue has the heaviest trophies

Edit> damn, should have drank the coffee, now i realized... meh, whatever.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
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