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TLnet Map Contest #14 - Voting to restart

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TLnet Map Contest #14 - Voting to restart

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February 26th, 2020 19:55 GMT
TLMC14
Due to some unforeseen issues with the spreadsheet used to count the votes, we will not be able to use a Google Form for TLMC #14. Unfortunately this means that the votes cast so far cannot be used and we have to start over in the voting process.

To avoid a repeat of the issues, we will now host the voting in our own, internal, polling system. This means that there is no need to write in "Voted" anymore, and you can instead discuss your votes and favorite maps below. To vote, simply go here and expand the spoilers.

We're truly sorry about this and will make sure that this does not happen again. Thank you for being understanding.

Voting is open now and will remain open until Wednesday, Mar 04 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

Standard

Category guidelines: Medium sized map. Players tend to have more flexibility on these maps to open with a wider variety of strategies and/or builds. Suggested rush distance: 33-38s

Pillars of Gold

By: Agaton
Terran prospectors have reported they’ve seen structures in the distance, soaring up to the sky like pillars of gold. The Protoss settlement consists of 14 bases with a very safe natural expansion and two third base choices. The low ground third is further away from the opponent, but leaves you with less map control compared to the high ground third. No matter in which direction you go, there’ll be a fourth waiting for you. The corner base will prove valuable as vantage point and to help control the base located below it.

VOD: (T)Dream vs. (Z)soO

Map Features
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Changelog:
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- Slight increase size of main and natural.
- Both third bases has had their attack paths tightened.
- The 3 and 6 o'clock areas has been slightly modified as the attacker had bit too much of a positional advantage.
- The two pillars in the middle has had their size increased in order to make the inner paths a bit more "chokey" and to allow for more tactical diversity.
- A pillar has been added in front of the low ground forward base to help with defending while keeping the location interesting. The base has also been moved one tile further back.
- The potential siege spot below the main has been modified so that larger units such as siege tanks can't get there without help from a medivac.
- Minor pathing and aesthetic changes



2000 Atmospheres

By: themusic246
Underwater map, multiple third options, standard and balanced, glowing fish and giant sharks, good map flow, units float up when they die? Honestly, I'm not sure why this wouldn't be your #1 pick.

VOD: (T)uThermal vs. (P)Harstem




Map Features
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Changelog:
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- Changed one of the reaper jump spots to prevent tank drops on the ledge
- Made lowground triangle third choke toward mid slightly smaller to make that base a tiny bit easier to hold as a third option
- Adding pathing to the main jagged corners so units dont get stuck there after building



Lightshade

By: Marras
Frustrated how DARK Nightshade is? Want to play on some brighter maps in the future? Worry not, your prayers have been answered. I present to you: Lightshade. It’s nice and standard, nothing too wacky or gimmicky going on, and what’s best you no longer need night vision goggles to play! There’s also plenty of rocks that provide safety to some of the bases early on and destroying them in the middle of the map is very beneficial when taking fights in that area. All in all, Lightshade is a good stable for any map pool, supporting a great variety of playstyles.

VOD: (T)Cure vs. (Z)Rogue

Map Features
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Changelog:
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- Added some base location markers



Hard Rain

By: ATTx
To win in the hard rain jungle, you must use the rock tower well and also study how to attack the base in the direction of 3 and 9 o'clock. You'll learn this map easily, but you'll have to think to win.

VOD: (T)Clem vs. (Z)Elazer





Map Features
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Changelog:
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- Changed Doodads a little.
- Changed the texture a little



Macro

Category guidelines: A map that favors defensive play and encourages players to reach end game unit compositions. Suggested rush distance: 38-43s

Bamboozle

By: ObsidianScabbard
Large armies attacking through the shortest path will ride the struggle bus to the enemy. Outside paths are much more spacious.

A mineral wall protects your 3rd/4th base. Each patch has 10 minerals. If you take the central base by the mineral wall, your workers will automatically mine the wall. This is intentional!

VOD: (T)uThermal vs. (Z)Elazer





Map Features
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Changelog:
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No changes reported



Ice and Chrome

By: themusic246
Vote for this map if you like a nice solid macro map (that's not too big) that you will get some epic matches out of. Your choice of an easy 3rd and open 4th, or open third and easy 4th. If Triton leaves the map pool soon we need another snow map. Vote it in.

VOD: (T)Dream vs. (Z)Hurricane




Map Features
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Changelog:
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- Made the triangle third choke toward mid a bit larger as the base felt a bit too easy to hold for the objective of the map
- Made the lowground corner 4th bases a little more open to fit the objective of the map



Romanticide

By: Marras
Romanticide is a macro map with a slightly shorter rush distance than normal. The “maze” of rocks and line of sight blockers in the middle path offer a lot of positional opportunities. Some of the paths leading to the forward base with a rich gas geyser are blocked with mineral walls, with the node value of 10.

VOD: (T)Cure vs. (Z)soO


Map Features
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Changelog:
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- Added some base location markers



Ecostation

By: CharactR
The plant life on this space station adds a lot to the atmosphere, and not just the artificial one if you know what I mean. A large map with various expansion options, with shorter routes that cross the reverse S-shaped center, and aggressive central expansions that are wrapped around by the longer routes.

VOD: (T)Soul vs. (Z)Bly

Map Features
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Changelog:
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- Cleaned up some texturing
- Added doodads around some more barren areas of the map
- Super minor pathing changes (Nothing gameplay affecting whatsoever)



Rush

Category guidelines: Map favors early aggression and offensive play. Suggested rush distance: 33s or less

Old Forgotten Temple

By: robeng
At one of the many forgotten temples at auir, two armies stand ready to fight. With a rocky highway through mid, armies must be careful and think about other ways to fight. Rock towers that connect to mid can block counter aggression and give the defender more time to set up.

VOD: (Z)soO vs. (T)Dream




Map Features
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Changelog:
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- Added style and doodahs outside of playable areas.
- Adjusted the fog to be slightly brighter.
- Decrease the amount of grass foliage on playable areas.
- Added gap-fillers.
- Fixed navmesh.



Oxide

By: themusic246
This is a small and cozy "rush map" that doesn't offer imbalanced cheesy shenanigans like other rush maps. The main to main distance is actually quite standard. Games will play out relatively normal but your timings may have to adjust a bit due to the smaller map size. Once the rocks go down, things get really interesting. Most importantly, if you take the awesomeness of all maps that have been created since the beginning of Brood War until now, this map here is better than all of them combined. Vote it in.

VOD: (T)Cure vs. (T)uThermal

Map Features
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Changelog:
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- This map rivals the beauty and timelessness of the Mona Lisa, therefore it has received no significant changes.



Submarine

By: Zweck
If you're tired of the large maps we exclusively had in the last map pools, here is a smaller one for you. It still supports all kinds of strategies with a solid, standard-ish layout. But in addition it comes with some fresh and pretty colors!

VOD: (T)Clem vs. (Z)Bly



Map Features
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Changelog:
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- The attack paths into the triangular and the linear third bases were narrowed down a bit.
- Rocks were added at the ramp in front of the linear third base.
- The "reaper stairs" were made unpathable for siegetanks.
- And some doodad color correction



Blackburn

By: Insidioussc2
Blackburn has a short rush distance, but through its layout and symmetry it is suited for split-map macro games as well as for early all-ins. There are Inhibitor Zones slowing players down on the most direct air and ground attack paths. The gold bases are risky to take early on, can be easily harassed in later stages, but provide strategic options for creative players and a change in tempo in standard macro games.

VOD: (Z)soO vs. (T)INnoVation

Map Features
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Changelog:
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- Removed Inhibitor Zones at 12 o'clock base
- Fixed a minor pathing bug
- Fixed some minor visual bugs



Challenge – “Adrenaline Rush”

Category guidelines: Design a map making use of the “Acceleration Zone Generator” structure. The Acceleration Zone Generator is a neutral indestructible structure that increases the movement speed of units in its area of effect and can be placed anywhere on the map, including ramps.

Impostor

By: insidious_bombardier
An impostor is in our midst! Draw your mighty sword from its obsidian scabbard, speed down the central corridor, and lay your rightful claim to this map.

VOD: (T)Cure vs. (Z)Rogue







Map Features
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Changelog:
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-Complete decorative overhaul
-Fixed resource positioning
-Added rocks to make the low ground 3rd easier to defend
-Moved high ground rocks to improve the defender's position over the central corridor
-Increased bunker build time



Jagannatha

By: Timmay
Accelerator Zones are placed in four strategic locations to allow players to quickly change paths. The layout was carefully constructed with the help of Twitch chat.

VOD: (T)Dream vs. (Z)Rogue









Map Features
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Changelog:
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No changes reported



Deathaura

By: Marras
On Deathaura there is no free scouting for overlords and in general there are only a few overlord spots on the map. The initial scout path zigzags through the middle bridges with the Acceleration Zone Generators. There’s also a nice amount of airspace and a forward base with two rich gas geyers.

VOD: (T)Cure vs. (Z)soO



Map Features
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Changelog:
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- Added base location markers
- Added some doodads here and there



Beckett Industries

By: Superouman
You want small maps, right? So why not vote for the smallest finalist map.There are also 3 Accelerating zones placed in small choke points that lets larger armies to go through them quickly while still letting the defender to prepare nice concaves.

VOD: (T)INnoVation vs. (Z)Rogue








Map Features
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Changelog:
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- Moved the linear third one tile closer to the edge to give the defender a slightly better concave
- Slightly enlarged the unpathable areas in front of the triangle third
- Changed some textures and the ramps have more decoration


Voting

In the voting post, the second post in this thread, you will be able to vote for a total of 5 maps, ranking them high to low. Your highest rated map will receive 5 points, your 2nd highest rated map will receive 4 points, etc all the way down to 1 point for your 5th highest rated map.

Some things to keep in mind:
  • If you vote for a map more than once, your vote will be voided.
    • For example: If you vote for MAP 1 once as your highest rated map and then again as your lowest rated map, none of those votes will count

  • This vote is only used to internally rank the maps, to determine the prize pool split. Blizzard has the final say regarding which map(s) make it into the ladder pool.

As a reminder, all of the top 16 finalists will receive $100 per entry. The top five entrants, as voted by you, will have their winnings expanded with the following amounts:

First - $500
Second - $250
Third - $125
Fourth - $75
Fifth - $50

All of the prize money has been provided by Blizzard, so a huge thank you to them for their continous support of the map making community.

Voting closes in .

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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-04 20:00:49
February 26 2020 19:41 GMT
#2
Polls post.
Voting is now closed. Keep an eye out for the results thread.
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Wardi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
England896 Posts
February 26 2020 20:06 GMT
#3
Re-voted ;d
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mell00yell00
Profile Joined July 2018
11 Posts
February 26 2020 20:08 GMT
#4
Big OOF
Tassad1
Profile Joined February 2019
6 Posts
February 26 2020 20:09 GMT
#5
revoted
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 26 2020 20:10 GMT
#6
Y'all don't need to post voted anymore.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
February 26 2020 20:31 GMT
#7
RIGGED
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TheDetweiler
Profile Joined November 2018
4 Posts
February 26 2020 20:38 GMT
#8
revoted
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
February 26 2020 20:42 GMT
#9
I'm neither sure I voted for the same 5 maps in both threads, nor that I didn't accidentally void my vote this time because I didn't remember if I voted for map X or Y.
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ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1770 Posts
February 26 2020 20:54 GMT
#10
You guys should PM everyone who posted in the thread before to make sure they know
AllHailLulu
Profile Joined September 2017
16 Posts
February 26 2020 21:05 GMT
#11
revoted
hangfive
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany6 Posts
February 26 2020 21:40 GMT
#12
.Vetoed
Sanglune
Profile Joined February 2016
Netherlands30 Posts
February 26 2020 22:30 GMT
#13
On February 27 2020 05:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Y'all don't need to post voted anymore.

Don't tell me what to do!
Voted
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
February 26 2020 22:35 GMT
#14
Voted.

1. Old Forgotten Temple
2. Submarine
3. Deathaura
4. Beckett Industries
5. Lightshade

Close but no cigar:

6. Ecostation
7. Ice and Chrome
8. Bamboozle
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syndbg
Profile Joined February 2018
43 Posts
February 26 2020 22:35 GMT
#15
Guys, you don't need to say "voted" anymore.

Voted.
Skypirinha1
Profile Joined June 2018
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-26 23:21:41
February 26 2020 23:21 GMT
#16
On February 27 2020 05:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Y'all don't need to post voted anymore.

noted
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Sprog
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand83 Posts
February 27 2020 01:21 GMT
#17
Nice maps! Best of luck to all the entrants
Zuratu
Profile Joined April 2018
United States25 Posts
February 27 2020 08:10 GMT
#18
More vote completed.
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CharactR
Profile Joined January 2020
Canada105 Posts
February 27 2020 08:49 GMT
#19
+ Show Spoiler +

My vote didn't change
1. Bamboozle
2. Impostor
3. Deathaura
4. Submarine
5. Blackburn


Y'all don't need to post voted anymore.


Re-posted :p
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blutrot
Profile Joined March 2016
13 Posts
February 27 2020 10:32 GMT
#20
re-voted
Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany152 Posts
February 27 2020 13:06 GMT
#21
Re-voted
Dolmatt
Profile Joined February 2020
Russian Federation2 Posts
February 27 2020 14:46 GMT
#22
+ Show Spoiler +

1. Hard Rain
2. 2000 Atmospheres
3. Old Forgotten Temple
4. Blackburn
5. Ecostation
ATTx
Profile Joined February 2012
Korea (South)178 Posts
February 27 2020 15:30 GMT
#23
Re-voted
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Perfi2_0
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Poland40 Posts
February 27 2020 15:46 GMT
#24
Out of curiosity, what was the spreadsheet issue?
Imbalance is an opinion.
Koivusto
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Finland542 Posts
February 27 2020 18:43 GMT
#25
Voted!
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February 27 2020 18:55 GMT
#26
Voted!
Jenia6109
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
February 27 2020 21:49 GMT
#27
Revoted.
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United States1228 Posts
February 28 2020 07:06 GMT
#28
Voted
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Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1526 Posts
February 28 2020 10:04 GMT
#29
Is it intended that I can revote after filling out the poll for the first time? Having some kind of indicator that the vote was registered would be nice.
Agaton
Profile Joined July 2019
Sweden45 Posts
February 28 2020 11:21 GMT
#30
On February 28 2020 19:04 Freakling wrote:
Is it intended that I can revote after filling out the poll for the first time? Having some kind of indicator that the vote was registered would be nice.

You should see a "You have already voted in this poll." message when trying to vote a second time.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 28 2020 12:00 GMT
#31
OK, I have a question to the naming
Romanticide?(Nightwish) Deathaura?(Sonata Arctica)

Just a coincidence?
+ Show Spoiler +




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FunkyGeezer
Profile Joined May 2015
Germany14 Posts
February 28 2020 14:18 GMT
#32
revoted
#thedream
Marras
Profile Joined June 2018
Finland63 Posts
February 28 2020 22:50 GMT
#33
On February 28 2020 21:00 deacon.frost wrote:
OK, I have a question to the naming
Romanticide?(Nightwish) Deathaura?(Sonata Arctica)

Just a coincidence?
+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu7WTx0AKac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6qrREJizY8



Also Ever Dream (Nightwish) in tlmc13 and Rest Calm (Nightwish) & Winter's Gate (Insomnium) in tlmc12
1v1 ladder maps: Romanticide, Lightshade, Deathaura, Ever Dream, Nightshade, Disco Bloodbath & Winter's Gate
RenegadeStudios
Profile Joined September 2019
7 Posts
February 29 2020 15:43 GMT
#34
voted again
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1526 Posts
February 29 2020 22:23 GMT
#35
On February 28 2020 20:21 Agaton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2020 19:04 Freakling wrote:
Is it intended that I can revote after filling out the poll for the first time? Having some kind of indicator that the vote was registered would be nice.

You should see a "You have already voted in this poll." message when trying to vote a second time.

That's what I thought. And this time it actually worked I wonder why my votes did not register at the first try O_o
SniperGLyo
Profile Joined March 2020
1 Post
March 01 2020 00:44 GMT
#36
Done!
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
March 01 2020 08:47 GMT
#37
As of now, there are 142 votes for first place but only 120 for fifth. That means at least 22 nulled votes.
You need to vote for every placement for your vote to count.
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filip120
Profile Joined March 2020
1 Post
March 01 2020 19:03 GMT
#38
voted
Christopher7
Profile Joined March 2020
3 Posts
March 01 2020 22:01 GMT
#39
What happened to all the 3 and 4 player maps? All these new maps are 1v1. I feel this loses a dimension of randomness and fun from sc1.
Zweck
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany211 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-01 22:27:23
March 01 2020 22:26 GMT
#40
On March 01 2020 17:47 Drfilip wrote:
You need to vote for every placement for your vote to count.


There is nothing that says something like that. You could also just vote for one map, if you only like one.
You're just not allowed to vote for the same map twice.
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ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
March 02 2020 14:55 GMT
#41
On March 02 2020 07:01 Christopher7 wrote:
What happened to all the 3 and 4 player maps? All these new maps are 1v1. I feel this loses a dimension of randomness and fun from sc1.


Randomness isnt fun for competitive players, it means some attacks hit harder because of random spawns.. Not cool
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2020 19:49 GMT
#42
On March 02 2020 07:01 Christopher7 wrote:
What happened to all the 3 and 4 player maps? All these new maps are 1v1. I feel this loses a dimension of randomness and fun from sc1.

yeah I kinda agree, I know pro players typically don't like 4 player maps but I really enjoyed playing on some of them
Kantuva
Profile Joined April 2010
Uruguay206 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 00:50:12
March 03 2020 00:40 GMT
#43
On March 02 2020 23:55 ilax30 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 07:01 Christopher7 wrote:
What happened to all the 3 and 4 player maps? All these new maps are 1v1. I feel this loses a dimension of randomness and fun from sc1.


Randomness isnt fun for competitive players, it means some attacks hit harder because of random spawns.. Not cool

It depends on how it is applied and what countermeasures exist to tame it

You can bet that proplayers would be all for it, if they were allowed to play on a Proleague like format where they can know ahead of schedule against whom they will play and practice against it, or create new build orders to take advantage of it

Also, it should be noted that StarCraft 2 is an E-Sport, which is something that depends on the spectators for it to be sustainable. From my perspective, Proplayers are entertainers first and foremost, but that's a topic for another discussion thread imo

On March 02 2020 07:01 Christopher7 wrote:
What happened to all the 3 and 4 player maps? All these new maps are 1v1. I feel this loses a dimension of randomness and fun from sc1.


They are not sustainable for current LOTV gameplay requirements, if you want to read into it, Mapmakers have written a fair amount about it, for example here's the latest piece on Terrancraft where NegativeZero was interviewed

https://terrancraft.com/2020/02/01/commentary-by-negativezero-on-faster-is-not-better/#more-6354
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Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
March 04 2020 09:44 GMT
#44
On March 02 2020 07:26 Zweck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 17:47 Drfilip wrote:
You need to vote for every placement for your vote to count.


There is nothing that says something like that. You could also just vote for one map, if you only like one.
You're just not allowed to vote for the same map twice.

Oh, sorry!
That was a rule previously, wasn't it? I just assumed it to be so now.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 04 2020 10:11 GMT
#45
On March 02 2020 07:01 Christopher7 wrote:
What happened to all the 3 and 4 player maps? All these new maps are 1v1. I feel this loses a dimension of randomness and fun from sc1.

LotV happened with the 12-worker start. It was iffy in previous releases and now it's impossible to have such maps.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
lordtume
Profile Joined March 2020
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March 04 2020 11:07 GMT
#46
Voted!
TheGoatPuncher
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March 04 2020 11:16 GMT
#47
REEEEEE-voted
Mettis
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March 04 2020 14:47 GMT
#48
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Aunvilgodess
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March 04 2020 16:47 GMT
#49
voted
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3344 Posts
March 04 2020 20:01 GMT
#50
Can 2 maps from the same catagory get top 5 and would they be able to enter the map pool?
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 04 2020 21:04 GMT
#51
On March 05 2020 05:01 ejozl wrote:
Can 2 maps from the same catagory get top 5 and would they be able to enter the map pool?


Yes. Blizzard tries to pick a spread of maps from different categories for ladder, but we still typically get 2 maps from each category on ladder. And of course the top 5 in voting is whatever maps get voted for most irrespective of category (though being in the top 5 isn't a guarantee of reaching ladder).
Returd9999
Profile Joined October 2017
4 Posts
March 04 2020 22:25 GMT
#52
Missed it, damn!
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