EPTWCS 2020 Discussion - Page 2
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Wrath
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On November 05 2019 23:39 showstealer1829 wrote: The Heroes of the Storm HGC was confirmed too till it wasn't We'll wait for the official announcement, but I was already confident there would have been a WCS 2020 before Smix and Maynarde talked about it, now I am more confident. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On November 05 2019 23:47 Xain0n wrote: We'll wait for the official announcement, but I was already confident there would have been a WCS 2020 before Smix and Maynarde talked about it, now I am more confident. Which is fair, you still haven't had your soul completely crushed by Activision/Blizzard yet. Me personally until the first map at IEM Katowice/GSL 2020 S1 is played I won't stop believing A/B will fuck us in some way. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37099 Posts
On November 05 2019 23:39 QOGQOG wrote: How is the host announcing it at the end of the last WCS not an official announcement? ...Please tell me that this is a troll question... | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
So clearly Sc2 is still making a decent amount of money considering if we assume no copies of the actual game for the campaign are being sold still (the coop things are a joke imo for sustaining the games life) | ||
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QOGQOG
834 Posts
On November 06 2019 03:42 Seeker wrote: ...Please tell me that this is a troll question... Nope. | ||
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washikie
United States752 Posts
On November 06 2019 08:27 LimeNade wrote: Would be a bit odd for them not to have WCS 2020 considering if we note the war chest sales. I'm not sure the exact percentage of war chest sales that are given to the blizzcon prize pool but if we say 50% (prob less but just guessing) that means Sc2 by being F2P this year alone made at least $400,000 in war chest sales since $200,000 was given to the blizzcon prize pool which means blizz would have only spent $300,000 on the blizzcon prize pool and not the initial $500,000 they would have given regardless of war chest sales. So clearly Sc2 is still making a decent amount of money considering if we assume no copies of the actual game for the campaign are being sold still (the coop things are a joke imo for sustaining the games life) Blizzard has stated the majority of players play co-op. It has little appeal to me personally but for a big chunk of the community it’s thier primary way of enjoying the game. | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
On November 06 2019 08:45 washikie wrote: Blizzard has stated the majority of players play co-op. It has little appeal to me personally but for a big chunk of the community it’s thier primary way of enjoying the game. Well that's cool that it gets a lot of attention from players. Still I think the war chest sales over the past couple of years alone should give some incentive behind having a 2020 WCS even if it is scaled down again to more online stuff or something. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On November 06 2019 08:45 washikie wrote: Blizzard has stated the majority of players play co-op. It has little appeal to me personally but for a big chunk of the community it’s thier primary way of enjoying the game. Coop is great for casual players and also probably generates a lot of income (commanders are $4 each and once you play one to max level the temptation is usually just to buy another). Despite it being popular blizzard still don't seem to put much into it. A new commander and mission every now and again can't be that expensive | ||
Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
Cause Smix doesn't get to decide those thing + there's no info on what "we'll be back next year" was suppose to mean. On November 06 2019 09:04 Fango wrote: Coop is great for casual players and also probably generates a lot of income (commanders are $4 each and once you play one to max level the temptation is usually just to buy another). Despite it being popular blizzard still don't seem to put much into it. A new commander and mission every now and again can't be that expensive I honestly wouldn't be surprise if the lack of support for SC2 is mostly based on the fact that there just aren't at the table and they just kinda forgot about it. I have no doubt that the Starcraft team loves their game and would be more than happy to do more stuff, but with all the layoff and change around upper management at Blizz you're bound to have some games that are put aside to focus on the big fish. They probably are leaving some money on the table with Starcraft, but you can't do everything. Starcraft (and Diablo too) probably also suffer quite a bit from being quite apart from the rest of the Blizzard tittles, if the only none pure exec at the table are ex-wow developer than it doesn't help getting you notice. | ||
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QOGQOG
834 Posts
On November 06 2019 09:14 Nakajin wrote: Cause Smix doesn't get to decide those thing + there's no info on what "we'll be back next year" was suppose to mean. I wasn't suggesting she did, but I doubt she was going rogue. Also, she specifically said "WCS will return." Oh well. | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On November 06 2019 09:44 QOGQOG wrote: I wasn't suggesting she did, but I doubt she was going rogue. Also, she specifically said "WCS will return." Oh well. People are unsure because last blizzcon it was stated at a panel that HGC would return and it did not | ||
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Dracover
Australia177 Posts
I remember attending the first PAX australia several years ago and they said the same thing. Except it was common knowledge that the local government had not given the green light for another year and it was a test year. Of course that's what presenters say to keep the hype going, but there would be certainly nothing concrean until we see a blue post confirming the fact. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37099 Posts
Okay. Well, since you clarified that you weren't asking a troll question, I will give you a sincere answer. 1. Smix is in no way affiliated with Blizzard. 2. Smix is in no way affiliated with Blizzard's board of directors. 3. Smix is in no way affiliated with Blizzard's shareholders. 4. Smix is in no way affiliated with any of the decision making processes behind WCS 2020 happening or not. 5. Basically, it doesn't matter if she announced that WCS 2020 is happening next year. She could have announced it purely out of a certain habit, it could have been a slip up, or maybe she was instructed to say that from the higher ups. There's no way to know for sure until Blizzard makes an announcement. In summary, until we hear an actual official public announcement from Blizzard that WCS 2020 is happening, everything is just speculation until that point. | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
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IMSupervisor
Australia138 Posts
On November 06 2019 11:11 Seeker wrote: Okay. Well, since you clarified that you weren't asking a troll question, I will give you a sincere answer. 1. Smix is in no way affiliated with Blizzard. 2. Smix is in no way affiliated with Blizzard's board of directors. 3. Smix is in no way affiliated with Blizzard's shareholders. 4. Smix is in no way affiliated with any of the decision making processes behind WCS 2020 happening or not. 5. Basically, it doesn't matter if she announced that WCS 2020 is happening next year. She could have announced it purely out of a certain habit, it could have been a slip up, or maybe she was instructed to say that from the higher ups. There's no way to know for sure until Blizzard makes an announcement. In summary, until we hear an actual official public announcement from Blizzard that WCS 2020 is happening, everything is just speculation until that point. It's sad that the host of a major finals event can't be relied upon as a source of credible information regarding the possibility of the event continuing the following year. | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On November 06 2019 12:03 IMSupervisor wrote: It's sad that the host of a major finals event can't be relied upon as a source of credible information regarding the possibility of the event continuing the following year. Why is that sad? Hosts are never the ones making the big decisions; if they were, they wouldn't be hosts. Nor are they at the top of the need-to-know list of future priorities. It's simply the way corporations operate. | ||
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Drfilip
Sweden592 Posts
On November 06 2019 14:33 pvsnp wrote: Why is that sad? Hosts are never the ones making the big decisions; if they were, they wouldn't be hosts. Nor are they at the top of the need-to-know list of future priorities. It's simply the way corporations operate. It doesn't matter if the host is makung decisions. The ones making the decisions aren't the ones that informs the public. There are voices of the companies that do the informing. The host of the biggest event is the voice that reaches the biggest crowd. Why would the company be fine with misinformation from that voice? It is sad because the company voice with the most listeners isn't reliable. | ||
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XDEKSDEEXD
622 Posts
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