EPTWCS 2020 Discussion
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ssg
United States1777 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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digmouse
China6331 Posts
Proof if someone needs it. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4532 Posts
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maikacat
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17456 Posts
On November 02 2019 15:54 BerserkSword wrote: Praise the Lor....I mean David Kim and Chris Sigaty. and Dustin Browder even though he is gone. .. and Rob Pardo even though he is gone.. and of course Mike Morhaime. In general, i'm grateful that Blizzard has supported the RTS genre by 3+ orders of magnitude more than any other studio or publisher. | ||
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ScarletAerie
40 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On November 05 2019 16:24 ScarletAerie wrote: Tbh after the whole hgc thing happened, I'm waiting until blizzard officially says there is one. This. And the fact they didn't even have this year's WCS in the recap vid of Blizzcon doesn't exactly fill me with hope. | ||
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getg00d
United States120 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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Nithala
Serbia18 Posts
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Mahanaim
Korea (South)1002 Posts
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Penev
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
On November 05 2019 22:10 Penev wrote: On the other hand SC2 was forgotten in the final video: https://twitter.com/TaKeSeN/status/1191467982880464896 Joke is the best term you can use to what Blizz have been doing lately. I was watching some VODs of Blizzcon on YT and damn, even 6 year old could do better job at cutting them: some videos didn't include an entire match lol. Show some goddamn effort FFS! Praise WCS 2020 Region UNLock. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
I'm pretty curious at this point! | ||
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QOGQOG
834 Posts
On November 05 2019 22:25 Seeker wrote: Thread renamed. Let’s not say that anything has been “confirmed” until we get an official announcement from Blizzard. How is the host announcing it at the end of the last WCS not an official announcement? | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On November 05 2019 22:11 Xain0n wrote: Maynarde just said that Blizzard confirmed at Blizzcon that WCS 2020 is happening, but no details can be unveiled at the moment. The Heroes of the Storm HGC was confirmed too till it wasn't | ||
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Wrath
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On November 05 2019 23:39 showstealer1829 wrote: The Heroes of the Storm HGC was confirmed too till it wasn't We'll wait for the official announcement, but I was already confident there would have been a WCS 2020 before Smix and Maynarde talked about it, now I am more confident. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On November 05 2019 23:47 Xain0n wrote: We'll wait for the official announcement, but I was already confident there would have been a WCS 2020 before Smix and Maynarde talked about it, now I am more confident. Which is fair, you still haven't had your soul completely crushed by Activision/Blizzard yet. Me personally until the first map at IEM Katowice/GSL 2020 S1 is played I won't stop believing A/B will fuck us in some way. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
On November 05 2019 23:39 QOGQOG wrote: How is the host announcing it at the end of the last WCS not an official announcement? ...Please tell me that this is a troll question... | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
So clearly Sc2 is still making a decent amount of money considering if we assume no copies of the actual game for the campaign are being sold still (the coop things are a joke imo for sustaining the games life) | ||
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QOGQOG
834 Posts
On November 06 2019 03:42 Seeker wrote: ...Please tell me that this is a troll question... Nope. | ||
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washikie
United States752 Posts
On November 06 2019 08:27 LimeNade wrote: Would be a bit odd for them not to have WCS 2020 considering if we note the war chest sales. I'm not sure the exact percentage of war chest sales that are given to the blizzcon prize pool but if we say 50% (prob less but just guessing) that means Sc2 by being F2P this year alone made at least $400,000 in war chest sales since $200,000 was given to the blizzcon prize pool which means blizz would have only spent $300,000 on the blizzcon prize pool and not the initial $500,000 they would have given regardless of war chest sales. So clearly Sc2 is still making a decent amount of money considering if we assume no copies of the actual game for the campaign are being sold still (the coop things are a joke imo for sustaining the games life) Blizzard has stated the majority of players play co-op. It has little appeal to me personally but for a big chunk of the community it’s thier primary way of enjoying the game. | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
On November 06 2019 08:45 washikie wrote: Blizzard has stated the majority of players play co-op. It has little appeal to me personally but for a big chunk of the community it’s thier primary way of enjoying the game. Well that's cool that it gets a lot of attention from players. Still I think the war chest sales over the past couple of years alone should give some incentive behind having a 2020 WCS even if it is scaled down again to more online stuff or something. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On November 06 2019 08:45 washikie wrote: Blizzard has stated the majority of players play co-op. It has little appeal to me personally but for a big chunk of the community it’s thier primary way of enjoying the game. Coop is great for casual players and also probably generates a lot of income (commanders are $4 each and once you play one to max level the temptation is usually just to buy another). Despite it being popular blizzard still don't seem to put much into it. A new commander and mission every now and again can't be that expensive | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Cause Smix doesn't get to decide those thing + there's no info on what "we'll be back next year" was suppose to mean. On November 06 2019 09:04 Fango wrote: Coop is great for casual players and also probably generates a lot of income (commanders are $4 each and once you play one to max level the temptation is usually just to buy another). Despite it being popular blizzard still don't seem to put much into it. A new commander and mission every now and again can't be that expensive I honestly wouldn't be surprise if the lack of support for SC2 is mostly based on the fact that there just aren't at the table and they just kinda forgot about it. I have no doubt that the Starcraft team loves their game and would be more than happy to do more stuff, but with all the layoff and change around upper management at Blizz you're bound to have some games that are put aside to focus on the big fish. They probably are leaving some money on the table with Starcraft, but you can't do everything. Starcraft (and Diablo too) probably also suffer quite a bit from being quite apart from the rest of the Blizzard tittles, if the only none pure exec at the table are ex-wow developer than it doesn't help getting you notice. | ||
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QOGQOG
834 Posts
On November 06 2019 09:14 Nakajin wrote: Cause Smix doesn't get to decide those thing + there's no info on what "we'll be back next year" was suppose to mean. I wasn't suggesting she did, but I doubt she was going rogue. Also, she specifically said "WCS will return." Oh well. | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On November 06 2019 09:44 QOGQOG wrote: I wasn't suggesting she did, but I doubt she was going rogue. Also, she specifically said "WCS will return." Oh well. People are unsure because last blizzcon it was stated at a panel that HGC would return and it did not | ||
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Dracover
Australia177 Posts
I remember attending the first PAX australia several years ago and they said the same thing. Except it was common knowledge that the local government had not given the green light for another year and it was a test year. Of course that's what presenters say to keep the hype going, but there would be certainly nothing concrean until we see a blue post confirming the fact. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
Okay. Well, since you clarified that you weren't asking a troll question, I will give you a sincere answer. 1. Smix is in no way affiliated with Blizzard. 2. Smix is in no way affiliated with Blizzard's board of directors. 3. Smix is in no way affiliated with Blizzard's shareholders. 4. Smix is in no way affiliated with any of the decision making processes behind WCS 2020 happening or not. 5. Basically, it doesn't matter if she announced that WCS 2020 is happening next year. She could have announced it purely out of a certain habit, it could have been a slip up, or maybe she was instructed to say that from the higher ups. There's no way to know for sure until Blizzard makes an announcement. In summary, until we hear an actual official public announcement from Blizzard that WCS 2020 is happening, everything is just speculation until that point. | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
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IMSupervisor
Australia138 Posts
On November 06 2019 11:11 Seeker wrote: Okay. Well, since you clarified that you weren't asking a troll question, I will give you a sincere answer. 1. Smix is in no way affiliated with Blizzard. 2. Smix is in no way affiliated with Blizzard's board of directors. 3. Smix is in no way affiliated with Blizzard's shareholders. 4. Smix is in no way affiliated with any of the decision making processes behind WCS 2020 happening or not. 5. Basically, it doesn't matter if she announced that WCS 2020 is happening next year. She could have announced it purely out of a certain habit, it could have been a slip up, or maybe she was instructed to say that from the higher ups. There's no way to know for sure until Blizzard makes an announcement. In summary, until we hear an actual official public announcement from Blizzard that WCS 2020 is happening, everything is just speculation until that point. It's sad that the host of a major finals event can't be relied upon as a source of credible information regarding the possibility of the event continuing the following year. | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
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pvsnp
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On November 06 2019 12:03 IMSupervisor wrote: It's sad that the host of a major finals event can't be relied upon as a source of credible information regarding the possibility of the event continuing the following year. Why is that sad? Hosts are never the ones making the big decisions; if they were, they wouldn't be hosts. Nor are they at the top of the need-to-know list of future priorities. It's simply the way corporations operate. | ||
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Drfilip
Sweden592 Posts
On November 06 2019 14:33 pvsnp wrote: Why is that sad? Hosts are never the ones making the big decisions; if they were, they wouldn't be hosts. Nor are they at the top of the need-to-know list of future priorities. It's simply the way corporations operate. It doesn't matter if the host is makung decisions. The ones making the decisions aren't the ones that informs the public. There are voices of the companies that do the informing. The host of the biggest event is the voice that reaches the biggest crowd. Why would the company be fine with misinformation from that voice? It is sad because the company voice with the most listeners isn't reliable. | ||
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XDEKSDEEXD
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bela.mervado
Hungary408 Posts
On November 06 2019 19:59 5ecured wrote: Why are we 100% sure that Smix is wrong? I mean, surely it is possible that she was given one piece of information to share to us all - that WCS is coming back next year. Why do you guys think this is 100% impossible? Sure, Blizzard might not have said anything else to her apart from that, but is it not possible that Blizz simply told her to say that WCS is coming? it's not about wether Smix is wrong or right, but still, this is not an official announcement (it very well can be a casual good bye, like >> see you [next year] <<). i'm quite sure there will be wcs 2020, and i'm curious what Maynard meant when he said it will be different this time. hoping for the entire finals to be held in Korea (not just ro16) or something like that. | ||
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Drfilip
Sweden592 Posts
Americas, Europe+Africa, China, South Korea, Oceania and rest of Asia. Maybe regional qualifiers for global tournaments. There might be a league system on the way, like a lot of sports have e.g. football (both soccer and American), basketball, ice hockey etc. The region lock could be abolished, allowing the travelling elite to rake in money again. Maybe the Blizzard grip will lessen and more organisers are coming, like the return of ROG SC2. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7148 Posts
On November 06 2019 19:59 5ecured wrote: Why are we 100% sure that Smix is wrong? I mean, surely it is possible that she was given one piece of information to share to us all - that WCS is coming back next year. Why do you guys think this is 100% impossible? Sure, Blizzard might not have said anything else to her apart from that, but is it not possible that Blizz simply told her to say that WCS is coming? We are not 100% sure that Smix is wrong. We also are not 100% sure Smix is right. And that is the point here. We want to have a 100% confirmation and until that point we assume the worst (aka "the HGC scenario") | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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QOGQOG
834 Posts
On November 07 2019 01:53 Alejandrisha wrote: are we here to talk about how good zerg is? No, that's every other SC2 thread. This one is for discussing what the words "official" and "announcement" mean. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On November 07 2019 03:01 QOGQOG wrote: No, that's every other SC2 thread. This one is for discussing what the words "official" and "announcement" mean. If you want to bait Seeker you'll have to do better than this one  | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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v5872012
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On November 07 2019 11:42 v5872012 wrote: Wish they can cancel the region lock policy Wish they can help the Korean region. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17456 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/nHMaMxj.jpg) Put in 1984 terms ... Heroes of the Storm is an unperson. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7148 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On November 08 2019 21:21 Harris1st wrote: IS THAT CRASH BANDICOOT???? Activision bought the rights to Crash after Sony bought Naughty Dog | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On November 08 2019 21:29 showstealer1829 wrote: Activision bought the rights to Crash after Sony bought Naughty Dog There is Spyro as well, didn't know Activision-Blizzard had its rights. | ||
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ZugzwangSC
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
User was warned for this post. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Do we know more about WC2020 now? | ||
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Elentos
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
So we hopefully get some informations there. But I have no doubt whatsoever, that there is going to be some kind of WCS, based on all the money CTC is pumping in the system. They wouldn t do that, if they wouldn t belive in some long term stabillity of the scene  | ||
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Weavel
Finland9223 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Last year they announced WCS Winter just before Christmas and confirmed that there really would be another WCS. GSL season 1 announcement came in early January and then the full announcements came late January/early February. Perhaps it is that they feel they already announced that WCS will return with Smix's closing statement at Blizzcon, so now they're not saying anything until they can confirm the whole plan. Also, if they're downsizing there may be plenty of time left to get through the whole schedule even if they begin late. | ||
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Elentos
55570 Posts
On January 07 2020 01:39 sneakyfox wrote: It's kinda crazy that we all thought the announcement was ridiculously late last year, and now it's even later. Last year they announced WCS Winter just before Christmas and confirmed that there really would be another WCS. GSL season 1 announcement came in early January and then the full announcements came late January/early February. Perhaps it is that they feel they already announced that WCS will return with Smix's closing statement at Blizzcon, so now they're not saying anything until they can confirm the whole plan. Also, if they're downsizing there may be plenty of time left to get through the whole schedule even if they begin late. They could release every announcement other than the WCS Winter one earlier than last time. So it's not that bad yet imo. | ||
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