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Rogue: Still Sexy - Page 2

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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 05 2019 06:58 GMT
#21
I wish someone asked him why he chose his IDs.
Quasarrion
Profile Joined July 2018
60 Posts
October 05 2019 08:57 GMT
#22
Looks like Creator in this pic
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26938 Posts
October 05 2019 18:35 GMT
#23
Great writeup as ever folks
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
October 05 2019 20:51 GMT
#24
Deserving long article for a Code S win.

I hated Rogue when he took the Blizzcon finals from Soo (read: I noticed Rogues power when he did.) Now he finally got his GSL win, too.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5220 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-05 21:28:26
October 05 2019 21:24 GMT
#25
I gave this a lot of thought... and I think it is wrong.

Imagine winning a GSL title like this, it's a crowning achievement, a highlight of one's life and a celebration of hard work, and then doing what he did. I can't imagine winning one and then saying "oh yeah I won because Zerg is too strong."

It takes a very honorable person to say that. And no one understand how strong Zerg is better than him.

This article takes his opinion for granted, takes the immense sacrifice he is making to share his what he believes is right, (which in doing so degrades an achievement he dedicated a chunk of his life to receive) and argues against it.

It's frankly disrespectful.

I know we don't like to talk about balance here, but this game has some serious issues right now, and these kinds of articles may sway Blizzard from making the changes necessary to fix it. This narrative is wrong.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-06 00:44:47
October 06 2019 00:41 GMT
#26
On October 06 2019 06:24 BronzeKnee wrote:
I know we don't like to talk about balance here, but this game has some serious issues right now, and these kinds of articles may sway Blizzard from making the changes necessary to fix it. This narrative is wrong.

I'd say that Blizzard doesn't care what anyone thinks but themselves, but they nerfed Protoss when they didn't think it needed it because too many idiots on Twitch screamed P R O T O S S whenever a Protoss player won and put PvZ in such a state that a Zerg GSL champion said he won because of extreme imbalance...

User was temp banned for this post.
MinixTheNerd
Profile Joined July 2019
200 Posts
October 06 2019 00:43 GMT
#27
Still sexy...for about a week before dropping out of super tournament and going back to normal rogue.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33624 Posts
October 06 2019 07:31 GMT
#28
On October 06 2019 06:24 BronzeKnee wrote:
I gave this a lot of thought... and I think it is wrong.

Imagine winning a GSL title like this, it's a crowning achievement, a highlight of one's life and a celebration of hard work, and then doing what he did. I can't imagine winning one and then saying "oh yeah I won because Zerg is too strong."

It takes a very honorable person to say that. And no one understand how strong Zerg is better than him.

This article takes his opinion for granted, takes the immense sacrifice he is making to share his what he believes is right, (which in doing so degrades an achievement he dedicated a chunk of his life to receive) and argues against it.

It's frankly disrespectful.

I know we don't like to talk about balance here, but this game has some serious issues right now, and these kinds of articles may sway Blizzard from making the changes necessary to fix it. This narrative is wrong.


I feel like this is a weird takeaway? Miz is arguing that despite Rogue's self-effacing comments, he was 'earning' this victory for years by mastering certain aspects of the game. It's not his fault that the game favors him right now—that's how it's been for many champions across many ages.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Doink
Profile Joined April 2017
75 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-06 18:51:20
October 06 2019 15:15 GMT
#29
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13998 Posts
October 07 2019 00:03 GMT
#30
On October 05 2019 17:57 Quasarrion wrote:
Looks like Creator in this pic

Creator? Eh. TY maybe.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
October 07 2019 10:00 GMT
#31
Beautiful write up. I am always glad when people recall Rogue proleague sniper builds. Really fun to watch in their meta context. Thanks for keep building a narrative TL people
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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BadHabits
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada45 Posts
October 15 2019 09:53 GMT
#32
sexy is not a word i would use to describe rogue, more like skinny and awkward lol. but sexy.... ... i guess to each their own.
i'm just here to have fun
Kertorak
Profile Joined November 2019
125 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-04 00:30:39
November 04 2019 00:28 GMT
#33
very good job on the article, milzenhauer!

I had read it several times, and it made me having some thoughts about it. You certainly earn a trophy yourself.



"I feel like this is a weird takeaway? Miz is arguing that despite Rogue's self-effacing comments, he was 'earning' this victory for years by mastering certain aspects of the game. It's not his fault that the game favors him right now—that's how it's been for many champions across many ages.
"
I like this statement, cudos.
I wish I had quality over quantity | "The point of Sc<x> is that your skill a constant WIP - which provides that unique joy of the game - not to post which rank you are in a this moment"
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