• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:56
CEST 09:56
KST 16:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy4Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27
Community News
Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."1Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.3Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)11BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1
StarCraft 2
General
Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson." Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey. I have an extra ticket to the GSL Ro4/finals The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Ro8 - Group A [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Ro8 - Group B SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 4
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 27678 users

GSL vs. The World: Team Korea Vote (2019) - Page 21

Forum Index > SC2 General
764 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 19 20 21 22 23 39 Next All
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
July 29 2019 12:40 GMT
#401
If Fantasy overtakes Innovation, will people be complaining about Inno taking Trap's spot?
Gomas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Poland311 Posts
July 29 2019 13:09 GMT
#402
Cure would be nice too
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12771 Posts
July 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#403
On July 29 2019 21:40 Pangpootata wrote:
If Fantasy overtakes Innovation, will people be complaining about Inno taking Trap's spot?

I don't think so because INno is better than Fantasy.
WriterMaru
burnturn
Profile Joined December 2015
United States59 Posts
July 29 2019 13:35 GMT
#404
Are you kidding me? Fantasy has more votes than INnoVation?
sOs is best
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
July 29 2019 13:42 GMT
#405
I think we will come to a point where Trap's only chance is to overtake Stats as first Protoss.

The Terran vote machinery is just too powerful
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
July 29 2019 13:53 GMT
#406
On July 29 2019 22:42 Harris1st wrote:
I think we will come to a point where Trap's only chance is to overtake Stats as first Protoss.

The Terran vote machinery is just too powerful


I think he has a better chance at beating out Inno.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24877 Posts
July 29 2019 14:28 GMT
#407
Seems a waste putting quite so much to voting of an increasingly rare tournament where Serral and the top foreigners can see how they stack up against Korea’s best.

A few fan voted wildcards sure but as many as there are?

It’ll feel wonky to me if the most recent GSL finalist doesn’t make it, tournament will still be a good watch of course.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
July 29 2019 15:23 GMT
#408
Between INnoVation, Stats, Trap and FanTaSy one of those names clearly doesn’t belong with the other three yet it’s garnered twice as more votes in the last 48 hours.

(I’ve also seen his Twitter claiming this is the “last year” he can play in this tournament acting like he’s might have military service coming when it’s actually over...?) I have no idea what’s going on there.

I wonder how many people aren’t giving Trap a chance just because he’s Protoss? I’m sure there’s a decent number out there. This whole week really hasn’t been fair to him. Imagine if it was you in his situation. Would you be okay losing your space that you’ve worked hard to earn all year to someone who’s not five, or ten, but more like twenty spots behind you just because he has a bigger fan base and absolutely nothing else to show for it?
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States444 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-29 15:36:44
July 29 2019 15:33 GMT
#409
On July 30 2019 00:23 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Between INnoVation, Stats, Trap and FanTaSy one of those names clearly doesn’t belong with the other three yet it’s garnered twice as more votes in the last 48 hours.

(I’ve also seen his Twitter claiming this is the “last year” he can play in this tournament acting like he’s might have military service coming when it’s actually over...?) I have no idea what’s going on there.

I wonder how many people aren’t giving Trap a chance just because he’s Protoss? I’m sure there’s a decent number out there. This whole week really hasn’t been fair to him. Imagine if it was you in his situation. Would you be okay losing your space that you’ve worked hard to earn all year to someone who’s not five, or ten, but more like twenty spots behind you just because he has a bigger fan base and absolutely nothing else to show for it?


You seem really upset by this situation. Give it a rest lol

If Fantasy makes it so be it. It's not some tragedy that upsets the whole scene.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 29 2019 15:39 GMT
#410
On July 30 2019 00:23 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Between INnoVation, Stats, Trap and FanTaSy one of those names clearly doesn’t belong with the other three yet it’s garnered twice as more votes in the last 48 hours.

(I’ve also seen his Twitter claiming this is the “last year” he can play in this tournament acting like he’s might have military service coming when it’s actually over...?) I have no idea what’s going on there.

I wonder how many people aren’t giving Trap a chance just because he’s Protoss? I’m sure there’s a decent number out there. This whole week really hasn’t been fair to him. Imagine if it was you in his situation. Would you be okay losing your space that you’ve worked hard to earn all year to someone who’s not five, or ten, but more like twenty spots behind you just because he has a bigger fan base and absolutely nothing else to show for it?

And where do these votes come from? Certainly not mostly from regular TL users, but from (korean) fans. Trap also was far behind when I voted for Stats a few days ago, he gained many votes from advertising on his stream, just like Fantasy did. Fantasy has more korean fans by far I'd assume, so he got that advantage.
Wicked1
Profile Joined July 2019
2 Posts
July 29 2019 15:52 GMT
#411
So Special is not a GSL terran, interesting.
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
July 29 2019 15:54 GMT
#412
On July 30 2019 00:33 Moonerz wrote:

You seem really upset by this situation. Give it a rest lol

If Fantasy makes it so be it. It's not some tragedy that upsets the whole scene.


Honestly I am upset, you’re right: but not because I have a dog in the fight for Trap or against FanTaSy: I’m disturbed because what’s happening simply isn’t right and would not be occurring if the voting process had taken place at any one of the previous tournaments. This whole fiasco can be pinned squarely on Blizzard.

Also, memo to the masses: not all Korean Terrans are created equal.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
July 29 2019 16:14 GMT
#413
On July 30 2019 00:54 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 00:33 Moonerz wrote:

You seem really upset by this situation. Give it a rest lol

If Fantasy makes it so be it. It's not some tragedy that upsets the whole scene.


Honestly I am upset, you’re right: but not because I have a dog in the fight for Trap or against FanTaSy: I’m disturbed because what’s happening simply isn’t right and would not be occurring if the voting process had taken place at any one of the previous tournaments. This whole fiasco can be pinned squarely on Blizzard.

Also, memo to the masses: not all Korean Terrans are created equal.

A player who is more popular winning a popularity contest is disturbing and not right?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
July 29 2019 16:14 GMT
#414
On July 30 2019 00:54 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 00:33 Moonerz wrote:

You seem really upset by this situation. Give it a rest lol

If Fantasy makes it so be it. It's not some tragedy that upsets the whole scene.


Honestly I am upset, you’re right: but not because I have a dog in the fight for Trap or against FanTaSy: I’m disturbed because what’s happening simply isn’t right and would not be occurring if the voting process had taken place at any one of the previous tournaments. This whole fiasco can be pinned squarely on Blizzard.

Also, memo to the masses: not all Korean Terrans are created equal.


You seem to forget this is basically a popularity contest:

If Fantasy gets elected, good for him: he chose SC2 over BW, and he has earned far less money than the others, so he could use some love from the scene.
If Trap does, good for him: he is having a great year and he's 3th in ranking right now.
If Inno does, good: he's one of the GOATs and the best team player ever.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
687 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-29 16:16:27
July 29 2019 16:15 GMT
#415
Edit: Double post
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
687 Posts
July 29 2019 16:16 GMT
#416
On July 30 2019 00:54 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Also, memo to the masses: not all Korean Terrans are created equal.


Yes, they are not, FanTaSy has a special spot in Koreans' hearts that he's carved out over the past decade by now, one that not even TY/BaBy or Stats can lay claim to (who have been playing in BW for a similar amount of time as FanTaSy but with much less success), let alone Inno/Bogus or Trap. Since it's a fan vote, "travesties" will happen in everybody's eyes since the fanbase has diverse opinions, to continue to harp on this is just wasted energy.

If MVP or Polt somehow came into the polls and received a disproportionate amount of support to their skill, hardly anybody would bat an eye. But somehow, this combination of Trap's unfortunate situation and FanTaSy's invisible support has left some people really unhappy.

For the record, I voted TY + Trap, but if FanTaSy wants to play, works hard to get his votes and actually gets them, who am I to complain?
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
LukeBomber
Profile Joined July 2019
2 Posts
July 29 2019 17:14 GMT
#417
On July 25 2019 04:33 youngjiddle wrote:
Please vote Ragnarok, he is better than soO and Rogue, and a lot more interesting.


*Won last IEM*
*Worse than Ragnarok*
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 29 2019 17:15 GMT
#418
On July 30 2019 01:16 yubo56 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 00:54 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Also, memo to the masses: not all Korean Terrans are created equal.


Yes, they are not, FanTaSy has a special spot in Koreans' hearts that he's carved out over the past decade by now, one that not even TY/BaBy or Stats can lay claim to (who have been playing in BW for a similar amount of time as FanTaSy but with much less success), let alone Inno/Bogus or Trap. Since it's a fan vote, "travesties" will happen in everybody's eyes since the fanbase has diverse opinions, to continue to harp on this is just wasted energy.

If MVP or Polt somehow came into the polls and received a disproportionate amount of support to their skill, hardly anybody would bat an eye. But somehow, this combination of Trap's unfortunate situation and FanTaSy's invisible support has left some people really unhappy.

For the record, I voted TY + Trap, but if FanTaSy wants to play, works hard to get his votes and actually gets them, who am I to complain?


It's Blizzard's fault in fact, Trap had to get seeded like he deserved because of the results he obtained this year.
oooLlll
Profile Joined July 2019
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-29 17:48:28
July 29 2019 17:41 GMT
#419
I don't know what you're arguing about. It's not votes who better, it's who has more fans will to be elected.
cclee0729
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 29 2019 17:51 GMT
#420
Look at Korean GSL point standings Fantasy is just a joke.
Prev 1 19 20 21 22 23 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech5
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 426
TY 238
Nal_rA 219
Zeus 85
ajuk12(nOOB) 22
Barracks 21
Noble 16
Dota 2
XcaliburYe217
BabyKnight58
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K830
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor135
Other Games
summit1g4486
C9.Mang01064
ceh9666
WinterStarcraft469
Fuzer 190
kaitlyn33
Trikslyr18
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream5338
Other Games
gamesdonequick398
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 27
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2113
League of Legends
• Stunt426
Upcoming Events
SOOP
1h 4m
sOs vs Percival
CranKy Ducklings
2h 4m
WardiTV Invitational
3h 4m
ByuN vs MaNa
MaxPax vs Solar
Reynor vs Creator
Gerald vs Spirit
Cheesadelphia
7h 4m
CSO Cup
9h 4m
BSL: ProLeague
10h 4m
Hawk vs UltrA
Sziky vs spx
TerrOr vs JDConan
GSL Code S
1d
Rogue vs herO
Classic vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 2h
BSL: ProLeague
1d 10h
Bonyth vs Dewalt
Cross vs Doodle
MadiNho vs Dragon
Replay Cast
1d 16h
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
RSL Revival
4 days
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Serral vs SHIN
Solar vs Cham
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Reynor vs Scarlett
ShoWTimE vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
BLAST Open Fall 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.