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GSL vs. The World: Team Korea Vote (2019) - Page 21

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Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
July 29 2019 12:40 GMT
#401
If Fantasy overtakes Innovation, will people be complaining about Inno taking Trap's spot?
Gomas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Poland312 Posts
July 29 2019 13:09 GMT
#402
Cure would be nice too
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
July 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#403
On July 29 2019 21:40 Pangpootata wrote:
If Fantasy overtakes Innovation, will people be complaining about Inno taking Trap's spot?

I don't think so because INno is better than Fantasy.
WriterMaru
burnturn
Profile Joined December 2015
United States59 Posts
July 29 2019 13:35 GMT
#404
Are you kidding me? Fantasy has more votes than INnoVation?
sOs is best
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7030 Posts
July 29 2019 13:42 GMT
#405
I think we will come to a point where Trap's only chance is to overtake Stats as first Protoss.

The Terran vote machinery is just too powerful
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
July 29 2019 13:53 GMT
#406
On July 29 2019 22:42 Harris1st wrote:
I think we will come to a point where Trap's only chance is to overtake Stats as first Protoss.

The Terran vote machinery is just too powerful


I think he has a better chance at beating out Inno.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
July 29 2019 14:28 GMT
#407
Seems a waste putting quite so much to voting of an increasingly rare tournament where Serral and the top foreigners can see how they stack up against Korea’s best.

A few fan voted wildcards sure but as many as there are?

It’ll feel wonky to me if the most recent GSL finalist doesn’t make it, tournament will still be a good watch of course.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
July 29 2019 15:23 GMT
#408
Between INnoVation, Stats, Trap and FanTaSy one of those names clearly doesn’t belong with the other three yet it’s garnered twice as more votes in the last 48 hours.

(I’ve also seen his Twitter claiming this is the “last year” he can play in this tournament acting like he’s might have military service coming when it’s actually over...?) I have no idea what’s going on there.

I wonder how many people aren’t giving Trap a chance just because he’s Protoss? I’m sure there’s a decent number out there. This whole week really hasn’t been fair to him. Imagine if it was you in his situation. Would you be okay losing your space that you’ve worked hard to earn all year to someone who’s not five, or ten, but more like twenty spots behind you just because he has a bigger fan base and absolutely nothing else to show for it?
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States459 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-29 15:36:44
July 29 2019 15:33 GMT
#409
On July 30 2019 00:23 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Between INnoVation, Stats, Trap and FanTaSy one of those names clearly doesn’t belong with the other three yet it’s garnered twice as more votes in the last 48 hours.

(I’ve also seen his Twitter claiming this is the “last year” he can play in this tournament acting like he’s might have military service coming when it’s actually over...?) I have no idea what’s going on there.

I wonder how many people aren’t giving Trap a chance just because he’s Protoss? I’m sure there’s a decent number out there. This whole week really hasn’t been fair to him. Imagine if it was you in his situation. Would you be okay losing your space that you’ve worked hard to earn all year to someone who’s not five, or ten, but more like twenty spots behind you just because he has a bigger fan base and absolutely nothing else to show for it?


You seem really upset by this situation. Give it a rest lol

If Fantasy makes it so be it. It's not some tragedy that upsets the whole scene.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 29 2019 15:39 GMT
#410
On July 30 2019 00:23 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Between INnoVation, Stats, Trap and FanTaSy one of those names clearly doesn’t belong with the other three yet it’s garnered twice as more votes in the last 48 hours.

(I’ve also seen his Twitter claiming this is the “last year” he can play in this tournament acting like he’s might have military service coming when it’s actually over...?) I have no idea what’s going on there.

I wonder how many people aren’t giving Trap a chance just because he’s Protoss? I’m sure there’s a decent number out there. This whole week really hasn’t been fair to him. Imagine if it was you in his situation. Would you be okay losing your space that you’ve worked hard to earn all year to someone who’s not five, or ten, but more like twenty spots behind you just because he has a bigger fan base and absolutely nothing else to show for it?

And where do these votes come from? Certainly not mostly from regular TL users, but from (korean) fans. Trap also was far behind when I voted for Stats a few days ago, he gained many votes from advertising on his stream, just like Fantasy did. Fantasy has more korean fans by far I'd assume, so he got that advantage.
Wicked1
Profile Joined July 2019
2 Posts
July 29 2019 15:52 GMT
#411
So Special is not a GSL terran, interesting.
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
July 29 2019 15:54 GMT
#412
On July 30 2019 00:33 Moonerz wrote:

You seem really upset by this situation. Give it a rest lol

If Fantasy makes it so be it. It's not some tragedy that upsets the whole scene.


Honestly I am upset, you’re right: but not because I have a dog in the fight for Trap or against FanTaSy: I’m disturbed because what’s happening simply isn’t right and would not be occurring if the voting process had taken place at any one of the previous tournaments. This whole fiasco can be pinned squarely on Blizzard.

Also, memo to the masses: not all Korean Terrans are created equal.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55562 Posts
July 29 2019 16:14 GMT
#413
On July 30 2019 00:54 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 00:33 Moonerz wrote:

You seem really upset by this situation. Give it a rest lol

If Fantasy makes it so be it. It's not some tragedy that upsets the whole scene.


Honestly I am upset, you’re right: but not because I have a dog in the fight for Trap or against FanTaSy: I’m disturbed because what’s happening simply isn’t right and would not be occurring if the voting process had taken place at any one of the previous tournaments. This whole fiasco can be pinned squarely on Blizzard.

Also, memo to the masses: not all Korean Terrans are created equal.

A player who is more popular winning a popularity contest is disturbing and not right?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
July 29 2019 16:14 GMT
#414
On July 30 2019 00:54 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 00:33 Moonerz wrote:

You seem really upset by this situation. Give it a rest lol

If Fantasy makes it so be it. It's not some tragedy that upsets the whole scene.


Honestly I am upset, you’re right: but not because I have a dog in the fight for Trap or against FanTaSy: I’m disturbed because what’s happening simply isn’t right and would not be occurring if the voting process had taken place at any one of the previous tournaments. This whole fiasco can be pinned squarely on Blizzard.

Also, memo to the masses: not all Korean Terrans are created equal.


You seem to forget this is basically a popularity contest:

If Fantasy gets elected, good for him: he chose SC2 over BW, and he has earned far less money than the others, so he could use some love from the scene.
If Trap does, good for him: he is having a great year and he's 3th in ranking right now.
If Inno does, good: he's one of the GOATs and the best team player ever.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-29 16:16:27
July 29 2019 16:15 GMT
#415
Edit: Double post
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
July 29 2019 16:16 GMT
#416
On July 30 2019 00:54 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Also, memo to the masses: not all Korean Terrans are created equal.


Yes, they are not, FanTaSy has a special spot in Koreans' hearts that he's carved out over the past decade by now, one that not even TY/BaBy or Stats can lay claim to (who have been playing in BW for a similar amount of time as FanTaSy but with much less success), let alone Inno/Bogus or Trap. Since it's a fan vote, "travesties" will happen in everybody's eyes since the fanbase has diverse opinions, to continue to harp on this is just wasted energy.

If MVP or Polt somehow came into the polls and received a disproportionate amount of support to their skill, hardly anybody would bat an eye. But somehow, this combination of Trap's unfortunate situation and FanTaSy's invisible support has left some people really unhappy.

For the record, I voted TY + Trap, but if FanTaSy wants to play, works hard to get his votes and actually gets them, who am I to complain?
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
LukeBomber
Profile Joined July 2019
2 Posts
July 29 2019 17:14 GMT
#417
On July 25 2019 04:33 youngjiddle wrote:
Please vote Ragnarok, he is better than soO and Rogue, and a lot more interesting.


*Won last IEM*
*Worse than Ragnarok*
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 29 2019 17:15 GMT
#418
On July 30 2019 01:16 yubo56 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 00:54 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Also, memo to the masses: not all Korean Terrans are created equal.


Yes, they are not, FanTaSy has a special spot in Koreans' hearts that he's carved out over the past decade by now, one that not even TY/BaBy or Stats can lay claim to (who have been playing in BW for a similar amount of time as FanTaSy but with much less success), let alone Inno/Bogus or Trap. Since it's a fan vote, "travesties" will happen in everybody's eyes since the fanbase has diverse opinions, to continue to harp on this is just wasted energy.

If MVP or Polt somehow came into the polls and received a disproportionate amount of support to their skill, hardly anybody would bat an eye. But somehow, this combination of Trap's unfortunate situation and FanTaSy's invisible support has left some people really unhappy.

For the record, I voted TY + Trap, but if FanTaSy wants to play, works hard to get his votes and actually gets them, who am I to complain?


It's Blizzard's fault in fact, Trap had to get seeded like he deserved because of the results he obtained this year.
oooLlll
Profile Joined July 2019
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-29 17:48:28
July 29 2019 17:41 GMT
#419
I don't know what you're arguing about. It's not votes who better, it's who has more fans will to be elected.
cclee0729
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 29 2019 17:51 GMT
#420
Look at Korean GSL point standings Fantasy is just a joke.
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