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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
July 28 2019 09:15 GMT
#321
Voted for FanTaSy, I don't follow SC2 all that much but I'll always be his fan.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-28 10:16:59
July 28 2019 10:05 GMT
#322
On July 28 2019 18:11 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 17:45 sertman wrote:
Sorry Trap, but Terran games are infinitely more entertaining to watch than Protoss games, so I'm voting Fantasy.

Great job, I hope all 3 Terrans go through.


Terran fans, going from whining 24/7 because there are not enough Terran around to turn GSL vs The World into Terran vs the others(at the moment, 7 Terran-5 Zerg-4 Protoss) on top of almost 1000 more votes over Protoss and 2000 over Zerg.

People can vote whoever they want but pretending this event is just a bunch of showmatches is senseless; we could easily have the most stacked lineup(out of the players we can choose), let's vote Fantasy instead(I really like him but I feel he is out of place here).
Unless Fantasy somehow turns into a top tier player in one week, he is the new 2018 Kelazhur.

Also, Trap should have had his place locked and Fantasy should have contended his spot with Stats, Inno and TY...silly Blizzard.
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
July 28 2019 10:17 GMT
#323
All the other tournaments out there already have skill-based entry criteria.

It's silly that some people are getting triggered because entry to just one tournament is based on a fan popularity contest.

Just vote the players you like and don't complain too much if they don't eventually end up getting in.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 28 2019 10:26 GMT
#324
Okay, so now I'm a Terran fan apparently, despite prefering Serral over any other player by far. Terran matchups are the most entertaining to watch (by far imo) which is why I said I'd be happy with all of these 3 Terrans being voted it. Fantasy might not be the best player possible, but he's one of the best for bringing entertaining games.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 28 2019 10:32 GMT
#325
On July 28 2019 19:26 HolydaKing wrote:
Okay, so now I'm a Terran fan apparently, despite prefering Serral over any other player by far. Terran matchups are the most entertaining to watch (by far imo) which is why I said I'd be happy with all of these 3 Terrans being voted it. Fantasy might not be the best player possible, but he's one of the best for bringing entertaining games.


I doubt you were the one giving 2200 votes to Fantasy, were you? I'm not addressing anyone in particular.

Given that we can choose, a perfect split of 3-3-2 is better than a 4-2-2 distribution, and to see all the best player competing is better than having just one very entertaining player against a more competitive field.
That would be true in any of case, even worse if this is done at the expense of Trap.
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-28 10:41:15
July 28 2019 10:38 GMT
#326
On July 28 2019 19:05 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 18:11 HolydaKing wrote:
On July 28 2019 17:45 sertman wrote:
Sorry Trap, but Terran games are infinitely more entertaining to watch than Protoss games, so I'm voting Fantasy.

Great job, I hope all 3 Terrans go through.


Terran fans, going from whining 24/7 because there are not enough Terran around to turn GSL vs The World into Terran vs the others(at the moment, 7 Terran-5 Zerg-4 Protoss) on top of almost 1000 more votes over Protoss and 2000 over Zerg.

People can vote whoever they want but pretending this event is just a bunch of showmatches is senseless; we could easily have the most stacked lineup(out of the players we can choose), let's vote Fantasy instead(I really like him but I feel he is out of place here).
Unless Fantasy somehow turns into a top tier player in one week, he is the new 2018 Kelazhur.

Also, Trap should have had his place locked and Fantasy should have contended his spot with Stats, Inno and TY...silly Blizzard.


Not a Terran fan, just a Starcraft fan who likes entertaining games. If it were a Zerg in Fantasy's position I would have voted for them over Trap too. Just means I get to watch more games since I usually switch to something else when Protoss is playing. If that's a common opinion Fantasy will win, dont shoot the messenger.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 28 2019 10:40 GMT
#327
Well, you didn't need to quote me then. I'm pretty sure I voted TY, Stats and soO. Like 90+% of votes coming in from this point are from new accounts of fans of the players anyway, and they probably won't check the comments nor care about who is the best.
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
July 28 2019 10:49 GMT
#328
On July 28 2019 19:32 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 19:26 HolydaKing wrote:
Okay, so now I'm a Terran fan apparently, despite prefering Serral over any other player by far. Terran matchups are the most entertaining to watch (by far imo) which is why I said I'd be happy with all of these 3 Terrans being voted it. Fantasy might not be the best player possible, but he's one of the best for bringing entertaining games.



Given that we can choose, a perfect split of 3-3-2 is better than a 4-2-2 distribution


Nah, the fewer pre-patch Protoss players the better
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 28 2019 10:59 GMT
#329
On July 28 2019 19:49 Need wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 19:32 Xain0n wrote:
On July 28 2019 19:26 HolydaKing wrote:
Okay, so now I'm a Terran fan apparently, despite prefering Serral over any other player by far. Terran matchups are the most entertaining to watch (by far imo) which is why I said I'd be happy with all of these 3 Terrans being voted it. Fantasy might not be the best player possible, but he's one of the best for bringing entertaining games.



Given that we can choose, a perfect split of 3-3-2 is better than a 4-2-2 distribution


Nah, the fewer pre-patch Protoss players the better


The extremely strong and scary figured out pre patch Protoss...sure man.
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
July 28 2019 11:03 GMT
#330
Fanta u sexy beast
CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-28 11:05:24
July 28 2019 11:04 GMT
#331
On July 28 2019 18:15 Qikz wrote:
Voted for FanTaSy, I don't follow SC2 all that much but I'll always be his fan.


I get it now.

We are doomed if TY is out. He is the best terran player of LoTV, and people are voting with pity for other players.
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-28 11:08:15
July 28 2019 11:07 GMT
#332
Voted for Fantasy

Hope both Ty and Fanta get in.
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
July 28 2019 12:09 GMT
#333
On July 28 2019 20:04 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 18:15 Qikz wrote:
Voted for FanTaSy, I don't follow SC2 all that much but I'll always be his fan.


I get it now.

We are doomed if TY is out. He is the best terran player of LoTV, and people are voting with pity for other players.

Yes all the votes for Fanta are pity votes
CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
July 28 2019 12:17 GMT
#334
On July 27 2019 19:24 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 12:15 fronkschnonk wrote:
On July 25 2019 19:31 Xain0n wrote:
On July 25 2019 18:38 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 25 2019 18:13 sneakyfox wrote:
Btw, if voting ended now this would actually be a pretty strong tournament.

- Dark, Maru, Classic, TY, soO, Stats, Trap/PartinG, Inno
- Serral, Neeb, SpeCial, Reynor, Scarlett, Showtime, HeroMarine, TIME

That's a Code S Ro16 right there.

No for Showtime, heromarine, Scarlett and time.
No for Parting who out of the last 4 Code S was in the RO16 once.

Innovation and soO in slump so hard to say if they're ATM RO16 caliber(usually they are though)

I mean how can you call Scarlett RO16 Code S when she tried and failed every Code S this year? She ended 3rd, 4th and 4th IIRC in RO32 groups.


It could very well be a Code S ro16(or very close to), just not the strongest possible lineup.

I had this discussion elsewhere before. The most objective measurement for the question who would qualify for GSL ro16 if it was a global event is the IEM World Championship were almost evey relevant SC2-Player participates. IEM 2019 and 2018 featured 3 foreigners in ro16. An it probably would've only been 2 this year, if Classic would've been able to participate.


Most objective? Not really. Katowice is just one tournament, even if it is the one with open qualifiers; what if we look at Code S S3 2018, which is an actual a Code S(no need for comparisons)? We find two foreigners in the ro16, out of three who qualified. And guess what? Not every single top foreigner went to Seoul to play the qualifiers, in fact seventeen non koreans tried: half of those were Chinese/Taiwanese and few were of the caliber of Mamba; you might have expected Scarlett and maybe Drogo, Kelazhur and Has(in 2018) to get through. The majority of the best western players(who are on this list) didn't even try, yet there were already as many in the ro16 as Katowice results makes you think it would be the appropriate esteem.

I don't know exactly why Katowice is so favourable to koreans, I think it's because the first "big" tournament of the year in which the two scenes clashes and koreans seem to adapt better in this early confrontation; it would be hard to explain BlizzCon's or the very Code S results foreigners had if you took Katowice as predictive model.


The problem is: you're comparing a potential scenario with a tournament that actually happened - 3 times in this format over the course of 3 years. Also, from those players making it into GSL Ro16 in 2017/18/19 Special and Neeb are matching with the ones being capable of reaching IEM top16 (the only other ones being Scarlett and Reynor). We also had multiple times with no foreigner appearance at all in GSL Ro16, despite almost always some strong players participating.
I'm not saying that the foreigners we'll have at GSLvsWorld wouldn't be capable of reaching GSL Ro16 at all but experience shows that they don't perform that well at the same time. The list of potential Ro16 players is just still so much deeper in South Korea that it's just not very likely that more than 2-4 foreigners would make it in there - as IEM has demonstrated multiple times.

Also the foreigners we saw in GSL Ro16 and further are also candidates who made it into the top16 of IEM
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
July 28 2019 12:20 GMT
#335
On July 28 2019 21:09 AlgeriaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 20:04 DieuCure wrote:
On July 28 2019 18:15 Qikz wrote:
Voted for FanTaSy, I don't follow SC2 all that much but I'll always be his fan.


I get it now.

We are doomed if TY is out. He is the best terran player of LoTV, and people are voting with pity for other players.

Yes all the votes for Fanta are pity votes


And he knows this considering his tweet.
TL+ Member
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
July 28 2019 12:38 GMT
#336
Hopefully Trap qualifies instead of fantasy, what a shame that would be otherwise :/.
WriterMaru
Seth1
Profile Joined July 2019
8 Posts
July 28 2019 13:14 GMT
#337
I forgot about So o. Only So o, Stats, and Reynor have beat Serral in matches this year.
Seth1
Profile Joined July 2019
8 Posts
July 28 2019 13:15 GMT
#338
I hope Stats qualifies over Trap. Trap has exactly zero chance against Serral. Stats is far more experienced against top competiton.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16061 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-28 13:17:20
July 28 2019 13:16 GMT
#339
On July 28 2019 22:14 Seth1 wrote:
I forgot about So o. Only So o, Stats, and Reynor have beat Serral in matches this year.

Inno, Heromarine, Neeb
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Linaas
Profile Joined July 2019
3 Posts
July 28 2019 13:32 GMT
#340
go go fantasy and trap!
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