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The following tweet from blizzard confirms a ban on Purelegacy for hacking in "recent play" (not in qualifiers).
Mod Edit:
His statement:
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqtleb
Yep, been doing my best to prove my innocence all day today, but here we are.
I’m going to say this just once, about 4 years ago, I hacked in 2v2 games when I was young and didn’t realize how much of a selfish and stupid decision it was and the consequences of admitting to my actions changed me for the better, and I promised myself I’d never cheat again. Years went by of people still calling me a cheater to this day, and that’s to be expected, but I knew for myself I was never cheating in all this time. February 2019 rolls around and I decided to tryhard in 1v1 to give myself a goal of getting into WCS spring challenger. I failed then, but I knew I could do it if I kept myself focused and that I did, and I ended up qualifying for this recent summer challenger. The best part about it is I knew I did it legitimately, and it was an indescribable feeling of accomplishment. I knew I was going to get backlash for a stupid decision I made a long time ago, but I was sure I would be safe because I NEVER cheated in years. Then I got the announcement that I was being DQ’d and my blizzard account was being banned and I was completely devastated. I tried my best to persuade everyone in charge that I was innocent, but they wouldn’t budge. I will maintain my innocence forever in this situation, and no matter if you hate me or love me, I know I accomplished my goal of WCS challenger, regardless if I’m competing or not. Good luck to everybody left, thanks for reading!
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That is very surprising. Were there even any suspicions or accusations towards PureLegacy, or is this straight out of the blue?
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This is absurd. There's no way my sweetheart is hacking/cheating in anyway. Blizzard is just doing this out of peer pressure of the community.
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On June 07 2019 04:15 Killmo wrote:
That is very surprising. Were there even any suspicions or accusations towards PureLegacy, or is this straight out of the blue?
He was a verified hacker in teams a few years ago.
As someone who plays high level teams, my teammates and I aren't convinced he stopped.
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Been trying to get the community to realize this for months. Too bad no one listens to me even to this day :/
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Not the first time he's been caught hacking. He also stream snipes and is a giant douche bag. Should be banned from bnet entirely.
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On June 07 2019 04:17 InfCereal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2019 04:15 Killmo wrote:
That is very surprising. Were there even any suspicions or accusations towards PureLegacy, or is this straight out of the blue? He was a verified hacker in teams a few years ago. As someone who plays high level teams, my teammates and I aren't convinced he stopped.
I see. I'm surprised he was even allowed to play in qualifiers to begin with. I'd imagine he is on some form of watch list from Blizzard, and that is how he got busted. I wonder how recent the games that he was found to be cheating in were.
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His statement:
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqtleb
Yep, been doing my best to prove my innocence all day today, but here we are.
I’m going to say this just once, about 4 years ago, I hacked in 2v2 games when I was young and didn’t realize how much of a selfish and stupid decision it was and the consequences of admitting to my actions changed me for the better, and I promised myself I’d never cheat again. Years went by of people still calling me a cheater to this day, and that’s to be expected, but I knew for myself I was never cheating in all this time. February 2019 rolls around and I decided to tryhard in 1v1 to give myself a goal of getting into WCS spring challenger. I failed then, but I knew I could do it if I kept myself focused and that I did, and I ended up qualifying for this recent summer challenger. The best part about it is I knew I did it legitimately, and it was an indescribable feeling of accomplishment. I knew I was going to get backlash for a stupid decision I made a long time ago, but I was sure I would be safe because I NEVER cheated in years. Then I got the announcement that I was being DQ’d and my blizzard account was being banned and I was completely devastated. I tried my best to persuade everyone in charge that I was innocent, but they wouldn’t budge. I will maintain my innocence forever in this situation, and no matter if you hate me or love me, I know I accomplished my goal of WCS challenger, regardless if I’m competing or not. Good luck to everybody left, thanks for reading!
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On June 07 2019 04:28 Killmo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2019 04:17 InfCereal wrote:On June 07 2019 04:15 Killmo wrote:
That is very surprising. Were there even any suspicions or accusations towards PureLegacy, or is this straight out of the blue? He was a verified hacker in teams a few years ago. As someone who plays high level teams, my teammates and I aren't convinced he stopped. I see. I'm surprised he was even allowed to play in qualifiers to begin with. I'd imagine he is on some form of watch list from Blizzard, and that is how he got busted. I wonder how recent the games that he was found to be cheating in were.
My thoughts exactly. There is so much proof and evidence on my youtube and stream vods that prove without a doubt that he was cheating.
Yet for some reason they still let him play.
Blizzard really needs to get in touch with reality.
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Only took 4(?) years and the guy to get top 5 GM :D
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What a surprise said no one ever.
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Glad to see it. Agree w/ Protech and we've had a resurgence of hackers in recent times that has threatened the top of GM ladder and WCS qualifiers. That's not something that i'm okay with.
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Purelegacy is super BM and extremely toxic overall on the ladder... However, IMO unless you have proof he hacked in the actual tournament or recently they shouldn't retroactively ban him after he qualifies. He either should not have been allowed to play the qualifier at all (almost 100% this) or no punishment should be given. The entire tournament bracket plays out differently if he is not in the tournament and its unfair to the entire rest of the field of players to do something like this after the fact.
Having said that I'm glad my boy Rob is making it in he definitely deserves it!
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he never stopped hacking, anyone that played against the dude knows that.
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On June 07 2019 04:49 Response wrote:
Purelegacy is super BM and extremely toxic overall on the ladder... However, IMO unless you have proof he hacked in the actual tournament or recently they shouldn't retroactively ban him after he qualifies. He either should not have been allowed to play the qualifier at all (almost 100% this) or no punishment should be given. The entire tournament bracket plays out differently if he is not in the tournament and its unfair to the entire rest of the field of players to do something like this after the fact.
Having said that I'm glad my boy Rob is making it in he definitely deserves it!
Blizzard clarified that he got banned in a hacking banwave and that makes him ineligible to then compete in WCS because of a rule prohibiting banned players. That's fair enough IMO and the default thing to do is what they did, go back and give the spot to the last player that was eliminated. It sucks that it messed up the qualifier but there's no perfect course of action without going back in time.
To clarify: While no cheats were detected during the open qualifiers, a player whose account is no longer in good standing is ineligible to compete based on Rule 3.1.a in the WCS Rules.
A more accurate headline would probably be "Purelegacy banned for hacking, runner up Rob given WCS spot"
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Well rules are rules, if he did not hack in the qualifier (like it seems) congrats to him anyway it's a personal accomplishment for him. I personally would have let it fly since he didin't hack in the qualifier, but since he did hack for years there's good reason for Blizz to be weary (especially since hacking is passive of getting you ban from playing Starcraft all together)
I would be ok with a temp ban from the competitive circuit, if he stop cheating and in 6 months he want to try again he should be allowed to. I get that hacking suck, but if he invested the same effort than everyone else to win without hack, he should be able to get back in.
With that said, pls don't cheat on ladders.
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I get that hacking suck, but if he invested the same effort than everyone else to win without hack, he should be able to get back in.
Can't compete from an account during an SC2 ban - you can't even log into the game - and you're not technically allowed to make another account to bypass that as it's considered ban evasion. It's explicitly prohibited in the WCS rules.
3.1.
Regional Eligibility.
(a) In order to be eligible to participate in the WCS, you must have authorized access to a full Battle.net account. Your account must be in good standing at the start of the WCS and remain in good standing throughout the WCS.
It looks to me like a temp ban from the game and Blizzard don't seem to have excluded him from any event aside from the ones that directly overlap with the hacking game integrity ban in the game itself. There's an additional competitive circuit punishment process that they've done for players in the past which doesn't seem to have happened here - i think it's actually fairly lenient on their part.
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I agree with Protech too : he is a know maphacker, and cheated for years, and not at all "only one time 4 years ago".
The issue is not him being banned now, it's him not being banned for life a long long time ago. He (and a few others) ruined top team play in 2v2 (3v3) for months here and here, a lot of people stopped playing top team play because him cheating for years without being banned.
Everyone who played him enough times in team play knows he cheats, and yet this dude even keeps the same nickname, as big as a "Big F***" to the community you can make.
And blizzard let this dude ruin the game experience for tens or hundreds of legit players. For years. And now, getting caught a second time (in 5+ years of continuously maphacking at least ), he get the balls to whine. Unreal.
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There seem to be 2 conflicting stories. he says he havent hacked for years, Blizzard claims he was banned for recent hacking. Even if that means 6-12 months ago, that proves him a liar besides a (former) cheater
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Again with "when I was young, I didn't realize...". Bring your age and use it as an excuse for mistakes you make in life. Well, he didn't get punished for his cheating in the past but now he did. So all and all, it is a delayed consequence for his action. Seem fair to me.
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