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Htime
Profile Joined March 2019
58 Posts
May 17 2019 09:22 GMT
#41
However i believe had he picked an easier opponent, Classic would have screwed this group with a switch anyway.

I don't see how Group D would end up with Innovation had Patience picked someone else.
Classic would switch anyone in his group to bring Fantasy or Hurricane in, so choosing Impact or Dear would be safe from a swap.
Ragnarok is unlikely going to pick Inno given his TvZ, so even Patience picking Fantasy or Hurricane into D means Hero or maybe Soo is likely to return in a swap.
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If P picks Fantasy, Hurricane is still #3 in A and would likely choose Hero (weak vP) or Soo (Hurricane is strongest vs Z) who would then return in the Swap. Patience picking Hurricane is a chance for Ragnarok to take Hero or Fantasy, with Hero prefering Fantasy, and Fantasy likely to prefer Soo or Hero. Given Stats, Soo, Inno, and Hero, I think you take your chances with Hero.

Now Stats, as the strongest and most balanced draftable (non-seed) Protoss in a field with 8 Protoss, was likely to end up picked near last and thus into Group C/D. Dear is certain to avoid him as the 4th player in Group B and prefer Inno, even over soO.

In a 4D Chess move, I wonder if Patience drafted the strongest player possible thinking he was the player Classic most wanted to swap into Group A (because everyone picks on him in past group nominations), and then it backfired spectacularly.
Patience:"No, wait!, I am way worse than Hurricane! Swap me! Remember how Maru used to always beat me?"
Classic:"Nope, you beat Maru just now, I couldn't, enjoy a group with the two other players who beat Maru recently+Dark."
batatm
Profile Joined June 2014
Israel116 Posts
May 17 2019 09:33 GMT
#42
On May 17 2019 18:22 Htime wrote:
Show nested quote +
However i believe had he picked an easier opponent, Classic would have screwed this group with a switch anyway.

I don't see how Group D would end up with Innovation had Patience picked someone else.
Classic would switch anyone in his group to bring Fantasy or Hurricane in, so choosing Impact or Dear would be safe from a swap.
Ragnarok is unlikely going to pick Inno given his TvZ, so even Patience picking Fantasy or Hurricane into D means Hero or maybe Soo is likely to return in a swap.
+ Show Spoiler +
If P picks Fantasy, Hurricane is still #3 in A and would likely choose Hero (weak vP) or Soo (Hurricane is strongest vs Z) who would then return in the Swap. Patience picking Hurricane is a chance for Ragnarok to take Hero or Fantasy, with Hero prefering Fantasy, and Fantasy likely to prefer Soo or Hero. Given Stats, Soo, Inno, and Hero, I think you take your chances with Hero.

Now Stats, as the strongest and most balanced draftable (non-seed) Protoss in a field with 8 Protoss, was likely to end up picked near last and thus into Group C/D. Dear is certain to avoid him as the 4th player in Group B and prefer Inno, even over soO.

In a 4D Chess move, I wonder if Patience drafted the strongest player possible thinking he was the player Classic most wanted to swap into Group A (because everyone picks on him in past group nominations), and then it backfired spectacularly.
Patience:"No, wait!, I am way worse than Hurricane! Swap me! Remember how Maru used to always beat me?"
Classic:"Nope, you beat Maru just now, I couldn't, enjoy a group with the two other players who beat Maru recently+Dark."

i think it's just that patience wanted a terran (he did take out both maru and inno in his group)
but he knew full well that classic would snatch fantasy should he take him.
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary474 Posts
May 17 2019 14:07 GMT
#43
On May 17 2019 18:22 Htime wrote:
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However i believe had he picked an easier opponent, Classic would have screwed this group with a switch anyway.

I don't see how Group D would end up with Innovation had Patience picked someone else.


Classic said in an interview he is seeking revenge on those who made his groups hard in the past. He specifically said Patience and Dark.
Why so serious?
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
May 19 2019 09:40 GMT
#44
Expect 7 protoss and 1 Dark in the Ro8.
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