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Maru advances to face Classic in Code S finals - Page 4

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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-08 01:00:49
April 08 2019 00:56 GMT
#61
On April 08 2019 09:48 NinjaNight wrote:
So who is most likely going to win and why?


Maru just seems too good at preparation matches, Classic was convincing but didn't appear especially scary; Maru's TvP is his Achilles' heel during the weekenders but he just never loses at the matchup in Code S.

Classic winning another championship before retiring would be a nice story tho and would save me(us?) from being drowned in hagiographies of Maru, the GOAT who almost cannot win weekenders and has more years of career than Premier titles(I don't hate him at all, his style is amazing when he doesn't Proxy 24/7, it's just that people overrate him into veneration).
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-08 01:05:12
April 08 2019 01:03 GMT
#62
On April 08 2019 09:48 NinjaNight wrote:
So who is most likely going to win and why?


Maru, because he's won the last 3 :p

More seriously:

Classic hasn't really played too much PvT recently and the ones he has played aren't indicative of much considering they've mostly been wins against returning players (Fantasy and Bomber). In general Classic is good in PvT and tends to prepare well with a lot of weird builds like sOs. Meanwhile, Maru's played a lot of TvP recently and has many games to study.

That said, I'd still be surprised if Maru doesn't win and with anything less than a 4-2. Even last year, when Classic was in top-form and was regarded as the best PvT where he had already beat Maru multiple times and was the favorite going into their ro4 match, Maru still destroyed him. It just seems like Maru becomes a demon from the ro8 onward in the GSL now.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
April 08 2019 01:31 GMT
#63
On April 07 2019 05:48 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 02:06 Morbidius wrote:
On April 06 2019 15:16 ParksonVN wrote:
On April 06 2019 14:47 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Maru has tied soO's record for 4 finals in a row and may soon tie/exceed Mvp's record in titles depending on how you count GSL vs The World. Crazy


Why do some people always (advertently) forget that Inno also won 4 GSLs (if counts GSL vs The World)?

Its schrodinger's GSL. When they need to argue for Mvp being bonjwa then its a GSL. When its Inno its not.


GSL were really clear about this at the time: GSL WC had a qualification system, so counts as a GSL. GSL vs the World is an invit and so it's a special event which counts as a premier event but doesn't count as a GSL.

Whatever it takes for Mvp fanboys to sleep at night while knowing there's a new GOAT on the block.
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swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
April 08 2019 02:35 GMT
#64
On April 06 2019 16:23 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 16:17 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 06 2019 15:16 ParksonVN wrote:
On April 06 2019 14:47 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Maru has tied soO's record for 4 finals in a row and may soon tie/exceed Mvp's record in titles depending on how you count GSL vs The World. Crazy


Why do some people always (advertently) forget that Inno also won 4 GSLs (if counts GSL vs The World)?


Because nobody cares about him whereas Mvp is a big ass pimp


Even if Maru wins this GSL, I would still say Innovation is the GOAT of SC2. With the WESG win this year, Innovation just added another major tournament win to his trophy case. Without the WESG win, I would consider that if Maru wins this GSL, he is very close to Innovation or maybe Maru even surpasses Innovation. But after the WESG win, Innovation is still the GOAT.

Maru is still young and Innovation is getting old. So if Maru keeps it up, he may surpass Innovation eventually. Having said that, Serral is also very young so Serral has many more tournaments to win in the future and perhaps it will be Serral and Maru trying to take over as GOAT from Innovation.

Not sure how the wesg win makes all the difference. Maru has been good too during the hots era so I already think maru is close or surpassed inno.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3750 Posts
April 08 2019 14:16 GMT
#65
On April 06 2019 15:16 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 14:47 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Maru has tied soO's record for 4 finals in a row and may soon tie/exceed Mvp's record in titles depending on how you count GSL vs The World. Crazy


Why do some people always (advertently) forget that Inno also won 4 GSLs (if counts GSL vs The World)?

Because we're talking about humans, not AIs.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 08 2019 18:26 GMT
#66
maru is GOAT, with MVP as second. keep in mind MVP played with completely shattered/broken wrists, as a huge underdog, and STILL won, and almost beat life as well

inno not in disucssion because -100 pts for being faceless korean
ilovegroov
Profile Joined January 2015
357 Posts
April 08 2019 20:26 GMT
#67
After the games, Maru made the surprising admission that he had been taking things relatively easy compared to 2018


I think one could notice that.
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
April 09 2019 07:14 GMT
#68
I love that Maru is this good now. I remember back in 2011 when Artosis was commenting that this young kid is gonna go far.
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-12 06:07:29
April 12 2019 06:05 GMT
#69
so in short, maru fails and loses in every tournamend expect GSL where he sweeps anyone else and wins it easy ...
this boy is beyond my logic xD
well done maru well done

while other complain, maru is just maru and instead wins high and easy
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 12 2019 06:48 GMT
#70
On April 12 2019 15:05 Drake wrote:
so in short, maru fails and loses in every tournamend expect GSL where he sweeps anyone else and wins it easy ...
this boy is beyond my logic xD
well done maru well done

while other complain, maru is just maru and instead wins high and easy

While complaining! I believe he said PvT is hard. (For Terrans, not for his Protoss victims)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
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