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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
February 23 2019 18:59 GMT
#21
On February 24 2019 02:05 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2019 01:41 Rodya wrote:
On February 24 2019 01:26 Ej_ wrote:
On February 24 2019 01:14 Rodya wrote:
Just some quick fact checking:

You might want to look up the meaning of words you attempt to use.

You're right, of course there are no facts about the world, since sense perception isn't unmediated. Thanks for getting technical.

Of course the are facts:

A fact is, by a dictionary (Oxford) , since you do not seem able to use one your own:

A thing that is known or proved to be true.

Examples (out of my courtesy):
Water is wet.
Triangle has 3 sides.
Ej_ is a teamliquid.net registered user.

But of course, if you think that me challenging your god-knows-how-obtained notion of
"I have to clarify that zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history. Zerg players making light of late game TvZ is just another example of it."
being a "fact" is the same as invoking the concept of all world experienced being subjective to each person in an attempt to challenge a notion of anything being a fact, then, in my humble opinion, you are not simply ignorant in your ways, but also a genuine fucking idiot and there's no discussion to be had with you anyway.
Good night.

Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words or metaphysics, and if you read Kant you'll understand how it is the case that 1) world experience is not purely personal (i.e. different for each person) and 2) sense perception isn't unmediated.

Good midday.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
uummpaa
Profile Joined July 2018
238 Posts
February 23 2019 19:15 GMT
#22
On February 24 2019 03:59 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2019 02:05 Ej_ wrote:
On February 24 2019 01:41 Rodya wrote:
On February 24 2019 01:26 Ej_ wrote:
On February 24 2019 01:14 Rodya wrote:
Just some quick fact checking:

You might want to look up the meaning of words you attempt to use.

You're right, of course there are no facts about the world, since sense perception isn't unmediated. Thanks for getting technical.

Of course the are facts:

A fact is, by a dictionary (Oxford) , since you do not seem able to use one your own:

A thing that is known or proved to be true.

Examples (out of my courtesy):
Water is wet.
Triangle has 3 sides.
Ej_ is a teamliquid.net registered user.

But of course, if you think that me challenging your god-knows-how-obtained notion of
"I have to clarify that zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history. Zerg players making light of late game TvZ is just another example of it."
being a "fact" is the same as invoking the concept of all world experienced being subjective to each person in an attempt to challenge a notion of anything being a fact, then, in my humble opinion, you are not simply ignorant in your ways, but also a genuine fucking idiot and there's no discussion to be had with you anyway.
Good night.

Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words or metaphysics, and if you read Kant you'll understand how it is the case that 1) world experience is not purely personal (i.e. different for each person) and 2) sense perception isn't unmediated.

Good midday.


looks like a dictionary and kant have a thing in common:
you're not able to use it properly

and if that was not clear enough, look who used the word fact first


B2T:
i like this multiple predictions, apart from beeing pretty entertaining due to some ridiculus ones, a single prediction is always cursed to make you look silly after the tournament, so thumbs up overall
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
February 23 2019 19:45 GMT
#23
Incredibly biased predictions incoming!

Bracket A: (P)sOs, (P)Dear and (T)Cure to advance!
Bracket B: (P)herO, (P)Trap and (P)ShoWTimE to advance!
Bracket C: (Z)Reynor, (Z)soO and (T)GuMiho to advance!
Bracket D: (P)Stats, (Z)Solar and (Z)Lambo to advance!

Mine gas, build tanks.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8307 Posts
February 23 2019 20:08 GMT
#24
Good gravy the sodium content in these comments is high.
Anyways, I enjoyed the write-up and can't wait for the event. Go Scarlett!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
wraggy1234
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom135 Posts
February 23 2019 20:51 GMT
#25

where Creator was another prodigy who we were certain would grow to dominate along with Life


Uhhh just hearing about Life makes me so sad. Such a great player - ruined by his greed. Shame.
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StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
February 23 2019 21:21 GMT
#26
On February 24 2019 03:39 Colouss wrote:
A few of these scenarios are impossible as all 3 players are in thee same half of the upper bracket. Overall though, a pretty good preview. I just hate you for jinxing TIME


havnt read the article yet. just had a quick look at the prediction and that was the first thing come to my mind. i.e. sOs, cure fantasy... for one of those have someone from lower bracket (Dear?) to advance.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 23 2019 22:21 GMT
#27
Excellent article! Having a separate preview for the Ro76 alone is really top tier.

IEM Katowice confirmed greatest weekender of the year.

HYPEUUUUU
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 23 2019 22:23 GMT
#28
On February 24 2019 01:04 Elentos wrote:
I like this idea. Side note though, the "KeSPA menace" prediction is impossible to become a reality because they're all on one side of the bracket.


But it's a double bracket right?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
February 23 2019 22:41 GMT
#29
year of Scarlett
ok
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-23 23:19:36
February 23 2019 23:18 GMT
#30
On February 24 2019 07:23 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2019 01:04 Elentos wrote:
I like this idea. Side note though, the "KeSPA menace" prediction is impossible to become a reality because they're all on one side of the bracket.


But it's a double bracket right?

It's double elimination but only 2 of them can qualify because the 3rd spot is guaranteed to a player on the other side of the winner bracket.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 24 2019 00:24 GMT
#31
I'm not crazy if I think Creator has a pretty decent shot of making it out of his group, am I? TRUE, Parting, and Reynor are all players he has a passable shot of beating in a best of 3. The loser of soO and GuMiho in the loser's bracket is tougher, but he has the power of Protoss build order victories to give him a chance there.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-24 01:00:45
February 24 2019 01:00 GMT
#32
On February 24 2019 09:24 Boggyb wrote:
I'm not crazy if I think Creator has a pretty decent shot of making it out of his group, am I? TRUE, Parting, and Reynor are all players he has a passable shot of beating in a best of 3. The loser of soO and GuMiho in the loser's bracket is tougher, but he has the power of Protoss build order victories to give him a chance there.

I mean maybe its possible but Creator has not been a good player in years, I would especially favor soO GuMiho and Reynor every time over him
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
February 24 2019 01:49 GMT
#33
Wax jinxed himself : O
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
February 24 2019 02:44 GMT
#34
Time canceled
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 24 2019 04:34 GMT
#35
I cant believe True and Parting are playing in the first round, what fucking luck for the two of them AND they have to probably face Reynor in the next round. Also Mana vs Fantasy should be great, Snute vs Ragnarok should be a good test for Snute and TLO vs aLive can be good if one of them brings the weird which I can see happening.

God this tournament is gonna be epic. These first rounds alone are already super stacked and we're nowhere close to the money rounds.

I wish more tournaments were like this. This is what SC2 tournaments should be like IMO.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa980 Posts
February 24 2019 07:58 GMT
#36
Excellent article, nice approach and good writing as always
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
Koivusto
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Finland542 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-24 08:48:30
February 24 2019 08:47 GMT
#37
So exciting to see how Serral fares against koreans this year Can't wait for the Ro24
#1 Blitzcrank #Forever platinum toss --> current diamond Terran <3
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
February 24 2019 10:24 GMT
#38
Enjoyed this read, thanks guys
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-24 10:48:34
February 24 2019 10:48 GMT
#39
Anyone know how you can make a predictive bracket liquipedia style?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 24 2019 10:50 GMT
#40
On February 24 2019 08:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2019 07:23 sneakyfox wrote:
On February 24 2019 01:04 Elentos wrote:
I like this idea. Side note though, the "KeSPA menace" prediction is impossible to become a reality because they're all on one side of the bracket.


But it's a double bracket right?

It's double elimination but only 2 of them can qualify because the 3rd spot is guaranteed to a player on the other side of the winner bracket.


Oh, right. Defeated by logic once again
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
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