WESG 2018 Grand Final Groups - Page 2

On February 18 2019 18:27 RealityTheGreat wrote:
Stephano qualified from Africa Region again...

On February 18 2019 20:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:


I dunno Kev, I'm thinking those foreigner heathens in group A might be able to scrounge together something kinda cool. I mean it does contain a world champ and a recent GSL semi-finalist.

On February 18 2019 20:17 Xophy wrote:


Considering that most people tend to say that group A is the group of death, featuring matchups between three of the best foreigners, your definition of "interesting" is, well ... interesting.

On February 18 2019 23:08 Rodya wrote:

I don't think it's a group of death. It's pretty clear to me that the two best players in it are Serral and Neeb, and Serral vs Neeb sounds uninteresting. I guess if you are a fan of some of the other players in the group though (for instance, Neeb), then you'd easily disagree. I'm a fan of Scarlett but I'm still not going to watch her crush these kids in her group.

I only like to watch high quality matches, which is why Maru vs Special may be interesting, since Special (like Scarlett) has high potential in any match.

On February 18 2019 23:53 fronkschnonk wrote:

I always should look who posts stuff. I wouldn't be as surprised when the weirdest perception of reality gets expressed. Showtime proved to be more successful than Neeb last year, especially in the 2nd half of the year. He had a slightly better head-to-head record in 2018 winning the more important matches (WCS playoffs twice) and also winning their last two matches. He also had a slightly better record vs Koreans in 2018. Also Showtime and Neeb proved to be able to take maps off Serral in the past, so there is a possibility that even Serral could bomb out of the group (I highly doubt that but if there are two foreigners able to make this happen then it would be those two protosses). Their overall winrate is essentially the same but Showtime's is gained vs an overall tougher competition while Neeb's is a bit bloated by his wins vs NA-Players below the surface of the few top players they have.

It would be really funny if Serral wouldn't make it out of the group an Maru won the whole thing ^^

On February 18 2019 23:53 fronkschnonk wrote:

I always should look who posts stuff. I wouldn't be as surprised when the weirdest perception of reality gets expressed. Showtime proved to be more successful than Neeb last year, especially in the 2nd half of the year. He had a slightly better head-to-head record in 2018 winning the more important matches (WCS playoffs twice) and also winning their last two matches. He also had a slightly better record vs Koreans in 2018. Also Showtime and Neeb proved to be able to take maps off Serral in the past, so there is a possibility that even Serral could bomb out of the group (I highly doubt that but if there are two foreigners able to make this happen then it would be those two protosses). Their overall winrate is essentially the same but Showtime's is gained vs an overall tougher competition while Neeb's is a bit bloated by his wins vs NA-Players below the surface of the few top players they have.

It would be really funny if Serral wouldn't make it out of the group an Maru won the whole thing ^^

On February 19 2019 01:02 Rodya wrote:

Depends on if you think the WCS tournaments are important results. IEM and GSL Neeb is way better. The next tier of tournaments are WESG and Blizzcon, and Neebs games at both were better. The quality of play is just different. The only saving grace for Showtime is that PvP is kind of coinflippy since Neebs' micro isn't at the level of Stats or Classic.

^Serral vs Neeb is going to be one-sided. If you don't think so, just consider if it were Maru vs Neeb. It's obvious the latter would be an embarassing affair, and I think the former is a comparable difference in skill.