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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
February 18 2019 11:09 GMT
#21
is group A a bad joke ???
the 3 best foreigners in 1 group and even nr4 harstem had a good chance to get out of a group like B xD

but having the top3 in 1 group makes me sad

i mean look ALL other groups expect maybe C with maru and special are so much worse then a
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-18 11:12:15
February 18 2019 11:11 GMT
#22
On February 18 2019 18:27 RealityTheGreat wrote:
Stephano qualified from Africa Region again...


so ... ??
whats your problem with this ? he has a tunesian passport i guess so its fine.

heromarine did qualify for italy(southern europe) in the past
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
February 18 2019 11:14 GMT
#23
lol easy group for INnovation, group A looks sick!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Xophy
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany79 Posts
February 18 2019 11:17 GMT
#24
On February 18 2019 19:51 Rodya wrote:
Only interesting group stage match is Maru vs Special to be honest, but Maru should win pretty easily.


Considering that most people tend to say that group A is the group of death, featuring matchups between three of the best foreigners, your definition of "interesting" is, well ... interesting.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 18 2019 11:24 GMT
#25
On February 18 2019 19:51 Rodya wrote:
Only interesting group stage match is Maru vs Special to be honest, but Maru should win pretty easily.


I dunno Kev, I'm thinking those foreigner heathens in group A might be able to scrounge together something kinda cool. I mean it does contain a world champ and a recent GSL semi-finalist.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7162 Posts
February 18 2019 12:06 GMT
#26
On February 18 2019 20:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2019 19:51 Rodya wrote:
Only interesting group stage match is Maru vs Special to be honest, but Maru should win pretty easily.


I dunno Kev, I'm thinking those foreigner heathens in group A might be able to scrounge together something kinda cool. I mean it does contain a world champ and a recent GSL semi-finalist.


And a Mauer!

Trump would love this group
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
February 18 2019 14:08 GMT
#27
On February 18 2019 20:17 Xophy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2019 19:51 Rodya wrote:
Only interesting group stage match is Maru vs Special to be honest, but Maru should win pretty easily.


Considering that most people tend to say that group A is the group of death, featuring matchups between three of the best foreigners, your definition of "interesting" is, well ... interesting.

I don't think it's a group of death. It's pretty clear to me that the two best players in it are Serral and Neeb, and Serral vs Neeb sounds uninteresting. I guess if you are a fan of some of the other players in the group though (for instance, Neeb), then you'd easily disagree. I'm a fan of Scarlett but I'm still not going to watch her crush these kids in her group.

I only like to watch high quality matches, which is why Maru vs Special may be interesting, since Special (like Scarlett) has high potential in any match.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4077 Posts
February 18 2019 14:18 GMT
#28
Actually in group A the biggest victim is Masa.
Drone is a way of living
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-18 14:47:43
February 18 2019 14:24 GMT
#29
On February 18 2019 23:08 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2019 20:17 Xophy wrote:
On February 18 2019 19:51 Rodya wrote:
Only interesting group stage match is Maru vs Special to be honest, but Maru should win pretty easily.


Considering that most people tend to say that group A is the group of death, featuring matchups between three of the best foreigners, your definition of "interesting" is, well ... interesting.

I don't think it's a group of death. It's pretty clear to me that the two best players in it are Serral and Neeb, and Serral vs Neeb sounds uninteresting. I guess if you are a fan of some of the other players in the group though (for instance, Neeb), then you'd easily disagree. I'm a fan of Scarlett but I'm still not going to watch her crush these kids in her group.

I only like to watch high quality matches, which is why Maru vs Special may be interesting, since Special (like Scarlett) has high potential in any match.


Neeb and Showtime are almost exactly 50-50 in head to head map score and Showtime won the last match so I wouldn't say he's clearly better then him. And Masa can take a map out of almost any body. Unless one of them crash and burn Special-Maru won't really mean anything, it's just gonna be for seeding in the first round of the playoff. But depend what you want I a match I guess.

Group G is hilariously bad tho, INno and a bunch of player who aren't even good enough for WCS Winter.
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
February 18 2019 14:34 GMT
#30
A stands for "all foreigners screwed"
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
February 18 2019 14:53 GMT
#31
On February 18 2019 23:08 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2019 20:17 Xophy wrote:
On February 18 2019 19:51 Rodya wrote:
Only interesting group stage match is Maru vs Special to be honest, but Maru should win pretty easily.


Considering that most people tend to say that group A is the group of death, featuring matchups between three of the best foreigners, your definition of "interesting" is, well ... interesting.

I don't think it's a group of death. It's pretty clear to me that the two best players in it are Serral and Neeb, and Serral vs Neeb sounds uninteresting. I guess if you are a fan of some of the other players in the group though (for instance, Neeb), then you'd easily disagree. I'm a fan of Scarlett but I'm still not going to watch her crush these kids in her group.

I only like to watch high quality matches, which is why Maru vs Special may be interesting, since Special (like Scarlett) has high potential in any match.

I always should look who posts stuff. I wouldn't be as surprised when the weirdest perception of reality gets expressed. Showtime proved to be more successful than Neeb last year, especially in the 2nd half of the year. He had a slightly better head-to-head record in 2018 winning the more important matches (WCS playoffs twice) and also winning their last two matches. He also had a slightly better record vs Koreans in 2018. Also Showtime and Neeb proved to be able to take maps off Serral in the past, so there is a possibility that even Serral could bomb out of the group (I highly doubt that but if there are two foreigners able to make this happen then it would be those two protosses). Their overall winrate is essentially the same but Showtime's is gained vs an overall tougher competition while Neeb's is a bit bloated by his wins vs NA-Players below the surface of the few top players they have.

It would be really funny if Serral wouldn't make it out of the group an Maru won the whole thing ^^
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7162 Posts
February 18 2019 14:56 GMT
#32
Since this starts on a Monday I can't watch most of the stomps in group stage anyway. Fine by me
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 18 2019 15:20 GMT
#33
On February 18 2019 23:53 fronkschnonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2019 23:08 Rodya wrote:
On February 18 2019 20:17 Xophy wrote:
On February 18 2019 19:51 Rodya wrote:
Only interesting group stage match is Maru vs Special to be honest, but Maru should win pretty easily.


Considering that most people tend to say that group A is the group of death, featuring matchups between three of the best foreigners, your definition of "interesting" is, well ... interesting.

I don't think it's a group of death. It's pretty clear to me that the two best players in it are Serral and Neeb, and Serral vs Neeb sounds uninteresting. I guess if you are a fan of some of the other players in the group though (for instance, Neeb), then you'd easily disagree. I'm a fan of Scarlett but I'm still not going to watch her crush these kids in her group.

I only like to watch high quality matches, which is why Maru vs Special may be interesting, since Special (like Scarlett) has high potential in any match.

I always should look who posts stuff. I wouldn't be as surprised when the weirdest perception of reality gets expressed. Showtime proved to be more successful than Neeb last year, especially in the 2nd half of the year. He had a slightly better head-to-head record in 2018 winning the more important matches (WCS playoffs twice) and also winning their last two matches. He also had a slightly better record vs Koreans in 2018. Also Showtime and Neeb proved to be able to take maps off Serral in the past, so there is a possibility that even Serral could bomb out of the group (I highly doubt that but if there are two foreigners able to make this happen then it would be those two protosses). Their overall winrate is essentially the same but Showtime's is gained vs an overall tougher competition while Neeb's is a bit bloated by his wins vs NA-Players below the surface of the few top players they have.

It would be really funny if Serral wouldn't make it out of the group an Maru won the whole thing ^^

The meltdown would be epic.
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
February 18 2019 15:43 GMT
#34
LOL at the Iranian player called Sharia hahaha
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 18 2019 15:58 GMT
#35
The first day has the most stacked groups, especially A. Maru vs Special is indeed a nice matchup, but I fail to see how Serral vs Neeb can be uninteresting!
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-18 16:05:17
February 18 2019 16:02 GMT
#36
On February 18 2019 23:53 fronkschnonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2019 23:08 Rodya wrote:
On February 18 2019 20:17 Xophy wrote:
On February 18 2019 19:51 Rodya wrote:
Only interesting group stage match is Maru vs Special to be honest, but Maru should win pretty easily.


Considering that most people tend to say that group A is the group of death, featuring matchups between three of the best foreigners, your definition of "interesting" is, well ... interesting.

I don't think it's a group of death. It's pretty clear to me that the two best players in it are Serral and Neeb, and Serral vs Neeb sounds uninteresting. I guess if you are a fan of some of the other players in the group though (for instance, Neeb), then you'd easily disagree. I'm a fan of Scarlett but I'm still not going to watch her crush these kids in her group.

I only like to watch high quality matches, which is why Maru vs Special may be interesting, since Special (like Scarlett) has high potential in any match.

I always should look who posts stuff. I wouldn't be as surprised when the weirdest perception of reality gets expressed. Showtime proved to be more successful than Neeb last year, especially in the 2nd half of the year. He had a slightly better head-to-head record in 2018 winning the more important matches (WCS playoffs twice) and also winning their last two matches. He also had a slightly better record vs Koreans in 2018. Also Showtime and Neeb proved to be able to take maps off Serral in the past, so there is a possibility that even Serral could bomb out of the group (I highly doubt that but if there are two foreigners able to make this happen then it would be those two protosses). Their overall winrate is essentially the same but Showtime's is gained vs an overall tougher competition while Neeb's is a bit bloated by his wins vs NA-Players below the surface of the few top players they have.

It would be really funny if Serral wouldn't make it out of the group an Maru won the whole thing ^^

Depends on if you think the WCS tournaments are important results. IEM and GSL Neeb is way better. The next tier of tournaments are WESG and Blizzcon, and Neebs games at both were better. The quality of play is just different. The only saving grace for Showtime is that PvP is kind of coinflippy since Neebs' micro isn't at the level of Stats or Classic.

^Serral vs Neeb is going to be one-sided. If you don't think so, just consider if it were Maru vs Neeb. It's obvious the latter would be an embarassing affair, and I think the former is a comparable difference in skill.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
Tempest
Profile Joined October 2015
United States147 Posts
February 18 2019 16:08 GMT
#37
Reynor and Probe make it out of Group E.

YOU HEARD IT HERE (not just first, as im probably the only person who believes this will happen).

Probe is better than you all think.
Quick, think of some pithy cliche and toss it here
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 18 2019 16:25 GMT
#38
On February 19 2019 01:02 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2019 23:53 fronkschnonk wrote:
On February 18 2019 23:08 Rodya wrote:
On February 18 2019 20:17 Xophy wrote:
On February 18 2019 19:51 Rodya wrote:
Only interesting group stage match is Maru vs Special to be honest, but Maru should win pretty easily.


Considering that most people tend to say that group A is the group of death, featuring matchups between three of the best foreigners, your definition of "interesting" is, well ... interesting.

I don't think it's a group of death. It's pretty clear to me that the two best players in it are Serral and Neeb, and Serral vs Neeb sounds uninteresting. I guess if you are a fan of some of the other players in the group though (for instance, Neeb), then you'd easily disagree. I'm a fan of Scarlett but I'm still not going to watch her crush these kids in her group.

I only like to watch high quality matches, which is why Maru vs Special may be interesting, since Special (like Scarlett) has high potential in any match.

I always should look who posts stuff. I wouldn't be as surprised when the weirdest perception of reality gets expressed. Showtime proved to be more successful than Neeb last year, especially in the 2nd half of the year. He had a slightly better head-to-head record in 2018 winning the more important matches (WCS playoffs twice) and also winning their last two matches. He also had a slightly better record vs Koreans in 2018. Also Showtime and Neeb proved to be able to take maps off Serral in the past, so there is a possibility that even Serral could bomb out of the group (I highly doubt that but if there are two foreigners able to make this happen then it would be those two protosses). Their overall winrate is essentially the same but Showtime's is gained vs an overall tougher competition while Neeb's is a bit bloated by his wins vs NA-Players below the surface of the few top players they have.

It would be really funny if Serral wouldn't make it out of the group an Maru won the whole thing ^^

Depends on if you think the WCS tournaments are important results. IEM and GSL Neeb is way better. The next tier of tournaments are WESG and Blizzcon, and Neebs games at both were better. The quality of play is just different. The only saving grace for Showtime is that PvP is kind of coinflippy since Neebs' micro isn't at the level of Stats or Classic.

^Serral vs Neeb is going to be one-sided. If you don't think so, just consider if it were Maru vs Neeb. It's obvious the latter would be an embarassing affair, and I think the former is a comparable difference in skill.


It might be onesided, but what makes it interesting is Neeb's prowess in PvZ as it is one of the best in the matchup whereas he is not half as good in PvT.
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3656 Posts
February 18 2019 16:27 GMT
#39
something tells me msrm won't get out of the groups stage
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 18 2019 16:31 GMT
#40
Well at least we now know that Wesg absolutely doesn't rig their groups.
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