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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 18 2019 16:32 GMT
#41
On February 19 2019 01:27 CynicalDeath wrote:
something tells me msrm won't get out of the groups stage


Tell you a lot about balance right now that we even considering this possibility
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
February 18 2019 16:57 GMT
#42
i think group balance is overhyped and frankly unbalanced groups are fun and interesting. group luck obviously matters, but there's no tournament format that would be perfectly "fair" or not involve luck, you'd have to play hundreds of games round robin on the same map to eliminate luck
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Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland498 Posts
February 18 2019 17:17 GMT
#43
Next four weeks will be really interesting with both IEM and WESG happening. Specially group A may be viewed totally different after IEM. On other note, lets hope that this time they have a good hotel for players.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
February 18 2019 17:36 GMT
#44
On February 19 2019 01:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Well at least we now know that Wesg absolutely doesn't rig their groups.

WESG's tournament director: "I immediately regret that after drawing group A". True story.
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Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-18 18:12:03
February 18 2019 18:11 GMT
#45
On February 19 2019 02:36 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2019 01:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Well at least we now know that Wesg absolutely doesn't rig their groups.

WESG's tournament director: "I immediately regret that after drawing group A". True story.

Does that mean it was a random draw?, cause I dont get how these groups were created
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
February 18 2019 19:46 GMT
#46
msrm is taking his group well.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 18 2019 19:56 GMT
#47
The joys of random seeding lmao.

If I was a group A player I'd be livid
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 18 2019 20:14 GMT
#48
msrm underdog story!
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
February 18 2019 20:42 GMT
#49
lol that Group A is something extra.
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Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
February 18 2019 22:58 GMT
#50
LOL the seeding.
Even Serral has to be unhappy, there is always a chance he has a bad day.
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
February 19 2019 00:11 GMT
#51
i'm gonna rank these players personally and seed them accordingly to get balanced groups just for fun, results in 2 hours LUL
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 00:38:12
February 19 2019 00:36 GMT
#52
On February 19 2019 04:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
The joys of random seeding lmao.

If I was a group A player I'd be livid

If Scarlett was a group A player you'd be livid.

Also technically seeding is "rigging the bracket"
very illegal and very uncool
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
February 19 2019 00:57 GMT
#53
On February 19 2019 09:36 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2019 04:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
The joys of random seeding lmao.

If I was a group A player I'd be livid

If Scarlett was a group A player you'd be livid.

Also technically seeding is "rigging the bracket"


Haha, I remember that whole rigging the groups debacle a while back. Some people are determined to be unhappy, regardless of what actually happens.
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Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
February 19 2019 01:27 GMT
#54
MSRM gonna stun the world by getting out of that group behind serral !!
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
February 19 2019 01:28 GMT
#55
[image loading]

seedings completly out of my brain, swapped around 1-2 ppl within 1-2 ranks to get at least 1 per race in each group.
not so hard to get fair and balanced...
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33493 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 02:25:15
February 19 2019 02:23 GMT
#56
On February 19 2019 10:28 KalWarkov wrote:
[image loading]

seedings completly out of my brain, swapped around 1-2 ppl within 1-2 ranks to get at least 1 per race in each group.
not so hard to get fair and balanced...


...you understand that the "completely out of my brain" part completely invalidates the seeding? Why not just arbitrarily place people into groups without the seeding entirely (that's EFFECTIVELY what you did)
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fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
February 19 2019 07:36 GMT
#57
On February 19 2019 11:23 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2019 10:28 KalWarkov wrote:
[image loading]

seedings completly out of my brain, swapped around 1-2 ppl within 1-2 ranks to get at least 1 per race in each group.
not so hard to get fair and balanced...


...you understand that the "completely out of my brain" part completely invalidates the seeding? Why not just arbitrarily place people into groups without the seeding entirely (that's EFFECTIVELY what you did)

Well, the approach isn't that bad at all. But one would have to refer to a at least somewhat more official ranking. This could be easily done by using aligulac or WCS points. Also it would be more clever to classify players in skill squads (8 players in skill squad A, 8 players in skill squad B and so on) and then seed players of each skill squad into the groups randomly. You wouldn't get in arbitrary "this player could be slightly better than that player, but I'm not quite sure"-situations as much.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
February 19 2019 11:11 GMT
#58
Aligulac and WCS points are both bad metrics. You might disagree, but it is not an objective matter like you think it is.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6997 Posts
February 19 2019 11:51 GMT
#59
You could do a seeding based on prize money won
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 19 2019 12:40 GMT
#60
On February 19 2019 20:11 Rodya wrote:
Aligulac and WCS points are both bad metrics. You might disagree, but it is not an objective matter like you think it is.


Well it's still the best we have, unless we go full subjective, it's better to have a metric that can favor foreigner or Koreans a bit than to decide we are the god of Starcraft and that actually Stats losing in the round of 32 dosen't count or things like that.
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