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WCS Winter RO32 concludes, RO16 groups drawn - Page 3

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Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
February 11 2019 23:03 GMT
#41
Obviously seeding is wrong for the draw. It should be based on 2018 rankings. That should give Serral, Showtime, Heromarine and Lambo a group each. Then Uthermal should be with Lambo, Reynor with Heromarine, Elazer with Showtime and Serral with Mana. The rest shoul;d be a random draw. But i think they tried to make sure there are less Protosses in next round as Serral and Elazer have the best chance of eliminating any Protoss. and they wanted at least 1 Terran to advance.
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
February 11 2019 23:04 GMT
#42
3 out of the 7 best Players in Europe are in Group b so i would say b is by far the hardest Group
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 11 2019 23:08 GMT
#43
Poor HateMe, what the fuck is that group.
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
February 11 2019 23:33 GMT
#44
On February 12 2019 08:03 Kafka777 wrote:
Obviously seeding is wrong for the draw. It should be based on 2018 rankings. That should give Serral, Showtime, Heromarine and Lambo a group each. Then Uthermal should be with Lambo, Reynor with Heromarine, Elazer with Showtime and Serral with Mana. The rest shoul;d be a random draw. But i think they tried to make sure there are less Protosses in next round as Serral and Elazer have the best chance of eliminating any Protoss. and they wanted at least 1 Terran to advance.


this
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 11 2019 23:48 GMT
#45
On February 12 2019 08:03 Kafka777 wrote:
Obviously seeding is wrong for the draw. It should be based on 2018 rankings. That should give Serral, Showtime, Heromarine and Lambo a group each. Then Uthermal should be with Lambo, Reynor with Heromarine, Elazer with Showtime and Serral with Mana. The rest shoul;d be a random draw. But i think they tried to make sure there are less Protosses in next round as Serral and Elazer have the best chance of eliminating any Protoss. and they wanted at least 1 Terran to advance.


Heromarine wouldn't have a group he ended up second, also pretty sure they didin't fix it to have less protoss...
I feel like it's base on Montreal result somehow, or maybe just "gut's feelling"? The ranking would go Serral-Reynor-Showtime-Lambo-Uthermal-Elazer-Mana-Gungfu which seems to logical to be totally random but stranger thing have happen especially since the NA groups are random (At least I hope so because if not someone is trolling us lol)
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
February 11 2019 23:50 GMT
#46
On February 12 2019 08:48 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2019 08:03 Kafka777 wrote:
Obviously seeding is wrong for the draw. It should be based on 2018 rankings. That should give Serral, Showtime, Heromarine and Lambo a group each. Then Uthermal should be with Lambo, Reynor with Heromarine, Elazer with Showtime and Serral with Mana. The rest shoul;d be a random draw. But i think they tried to make sure there are less Protosses in next round as Serral and Elazer have the best chance of eliminating any Protoss. and they wanted at least 1 Terran to advance.


Heromarine wouldn't have a group he ended up second, also pretty sure they didin't fix it to have less protoss...
I feel like it's base on Montreal result somehow, or maybe just "gut's feelling"? The ranking would go Serral-Reynor-Showtime-Lambo-Uthermal-Elazer-Mana-Gungfu which seems to logical to be totally random but stranger thing have happen especially since the NA groups are random (At least I hope so because if not someone is trolling us lol)


no you are wrong you talkabout only WCS Montreal we talk about WCS Standng 2018

(Wiki)2018 StarCraft II World Championship Series/Standings

Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
February 11 2019 23:53 GMT
#47
On February 12 2019 08:03 Kafka777 wrote:
Obviously seeding is wrong for the draw. It should be based on 2018 rankings. That should give Serral, Showtime, Heromarine and Lambo a group each. Then Uthermal should be with Lambo, Reynor with Heromarine, Elazer with Showtime and Serral with Mana. The rest shoul;d be a random draw. But i think they tried to make sure there are less Protosses in next round as Serral and Elazer have the best chance of eliminating any Protoss. and they wanted at least 1 Terran to advance.


Heromarine wouldn't have a group he ended up second, also pretty sure they didin't fix it to have less protoss...
I feel like it's base on Montreal result somehow, or maybe just "gut's feelling"? The ranking would go Serral-Reynor-Showtime-Lambo-Uthermal-Elazer-Mana-Gungfu which seems to logical to be totally random but stranger thing have happen especially since the NA groups are random (At least I hope so because if not someone is trolling us lol)


Yes, I missed the fact that Heromarine was 2nd. But that would give Serral with Gungfu, Showtime with Mana, Lambo with Elazer and Raynor with Uthermal.
parrotpitaya
Profile Joined January 2019
Germany37 Posts
February 11 2019 23:59 GMT
#48
Probe seems getting a very nice group
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 12 2019 00:44 GMT
#49
On February 12 2019 08:50 tilhorizon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2019 08:48 Nakajin wrote:
On February 12 2019 08:03 Kafka777 wrote:
Obviously seeding is wrong for the draw. It should be based on 2018 rankings. That should give Serral, Showtime, Heromarine and Lambo a group each. Then Uthermal should be with Lambo, Reynor with Heromarine, Elazer with Showtime and Serral with Mana. The rest shoul;d be a random draw. But i think they tried to make sure there are less Protosses in next round as Serral and Elazer have the best chance of eliminating any Protoss. and they wanted at least 1 Terran to advance.


Heromarine wouldn't have a group he ended up second, also pretty sure they didin't fix it to have less protoss...
I feel like it's base on Montreal result somehow, or maybe just "gut's feelling"? The ranking would go Serral-Reynor-Showtime-Lambo-Uthermal-Elazer-Mana-Gungfu which seems to logical to be totally random but stranger thing have happen especially since the NA groups are random (At least I hope so because if not someone is trolling us lol)


no you are wrong you talkabout only WCS Montreal we talk about WCS Standng 2018

(Wiki)2018 StarCraft II World Championship Series/Standings


I know but it would explain why Reynor is ahead of Uthermal. Reynor-Serral-Lambo-Showtime(tied with UT) are the 4 best european of WCS Montreal.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
February 12 2019 00:50 GMT
#50
I know but it would explain why Reynor is ahead of Uthermal. Reynor-Serral-Lambo-Showtime(tied with UT) are the 4 best european of WCS Montreal.


It would make absolutely no sense to take WCS Montreal as basis for seeding, unless one would liuke to manipulate something.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33553 Posts
February 12 2019 01:06 GMT
#51
WCS Winter Rules

According to the rulebook it looks like 2018 standings stop being used for seeding beginning the RO16, although they were used in qualifiers and in the RO32.

The Round of 16 group stage will consist of the 16 players who advanced from the Round of 32. These
players will be seeded into four groups of four players each.

• Players who advanced from their group first will be assigned a 1-seed
• Players who advanced from their group second will be assigned a 2-seed
• Each Round of 16 group will have two 1-seeds and two 2-seeds
• Players who were in the same group in the round of 32 may not be placed in the same Round of
16 group

AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 12 2019 01:19 GMT
#52
On February 12 2019 10:06 Waxangel wrote:
WCS Winter Rules

According to the rulebook it looks like 2018 standings stop being used for seeding beginning the RO16, although they were used in qualifiers and in the RO32.

Show nested quote +
The Round of 16 group stage will consist of the 16 players who advanced from the Round of 32. These
players will be seeded into four groups of four players each.

• Players who advanced from their group first will be assigned a 1-seed
• Players who advanced from their group second will be assigned a 2-seed
• Each Round of 16 group will have two 1-seeds and two 2-seeds
• Players who were in the same group in the round of 32 may not be placed in the same Round of
16 group



I feel like this is missing something... so is it random? Are they just placing them however they want within those rules?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 12 2019 01:25 GMT
#53
On February 12 2019 10:19 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2019 10:06 Waxangel wrote:
WCS Winter Rules

According to the rulebook it looks like 2018 standings stop being used for seeding beginning the RO16, although they were used in qualifiers and in the RO32.

The Round of 16 group stage will consist of the 16 players who advanced from the Round of 32. These
players will be seeded into four groups of four players each.

• Players who advanced from their group first will be assigned a 1-seed
• Players who advanced from their group second will be assigned a 2-seed
• Each Round of 16 group will have two 1-seeds and two 2-seeds
• Players who were in the same group in the round of 32 may not be placed in the same Round of
16 group



I feel like this is missing something... so is it random? Are they just placing them however they want within those rules?

I mean we should not rule out the chance that it's random, NA group really do look random.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
February 12 2019 01:30 GMT
#54

According to the rulebook it looks like 2018 standings stop being used for seeding beginning the RO16, although they were used in qualifiers and in the RO32


It doesn\t look random at all. But there is a little problem balance wise currently, We can fix it a bit by staging groups. Like AI Serral and Elazer are faster than other players. Hateme, with all due respect, will not advance.
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
February 12 2019 05:08 GMT
#55
Only 2 Terran out of 16 players for WCS EU
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-12 08:07:01
February 12 2019 08:06 GMT
#56
wcs america they rly managed to have 2 groups with 0 usa players and one with 4 ? and both mexicans in one and 2 chinese in one xD
what a **** drawing xD

and eu the only 2 terrans in 1 group i shit myself xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-12 08:07:49
February 12 2019 08:06 GMT
#57
On February 12 2019 14:08 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Only 2 Terran out of 16 players for WCS EU


so tell me who is a good european terran ? the race isnt just that famous in eu on top level so there are very few top tier terrans
the sad thing is that they are both in the same group.

ps: if heromarine still plays this awefull build hes gonna lose ... i dare a terran to cry for balance until they stop playing the WORST BUILD POSSIBLE every damn tvp xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
392 Posts
February 12 2019 08:52 GMT
#58
hmm... interesting to see if anyone can challenge serral and if in NA someone else than scarlett/neeb/special will win.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 12 2019 11:18 GMT
#59
Serral's group is hilarious, he gets the weakest trio of players to face against (relative to the other groups) , all in his best match up. Too much luck!
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16038 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-12 11:54:45
February 12 2019 11:53 GMT
#60
On February 12 2019 17:06 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2019 14:08 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Only 2 Terran out of 16 players for WCS EU


so tell me who is a good european terran ? the race isnt just that famous in eu on top level so there are very few top tier terrans
the sad thing is that they are both in the same group.

ps: if heromarine still plays this awefull build hes gonna lose ... i dare a terran to cry for balance until they stop playing the WORST BUILD POSSIBLE every damn tvp xD

Tell them what a proper build is with your gm game knowledge.
Foreign terrans really should take coaching lessons from you
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