• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:49
CET 06:49
KST 14:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)1Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win2RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays 2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? [BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D) soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft What happened to TvZ on Retro?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2182 users

WCS Winter RO32 concludes, RO16 groups drawn

Forum Index > SC2 General
64 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 21:52:10
February 11 2019 12:36 GMT
#1
[image loading]
WCS Winter - Europe and Americas

Group stage #1 (round of 32) of WCS Europe and Americas concluded, finalizing the sixteen players who will advance to group stage #2 (round of 16) in each region. Group stage #2 is set to be played during February 14-17.

[image loading]


[image loading]


Round of 32 Results

WCS Europe (Liquipedia)
[image loading]


WCS Americas (Liquipedia)
[image loading]


Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
Milleus
Profile Joined January 2014
Denmark29 Posts
February 11 2019 12:54 GMT
#2
Personally i was really disappointed that they didn't announce the group draw on stream. Maybe i am just too much invested in this game and eSport
I was like.. "But but.. the draws?"... which left me with an empty feeling.

I wouldn't have minded that they announced when it would take place instead of actually doing it right after the groups concluded. But no announcement at all was really sad.

How you guys feel?
After all said and done, one and one still is ONE.
parrotpitaya
Profile Joined January 2019
Germany37 Posts
February 11 2019 13:04 GMT
#3
On February 11 2019 21:54 Milleus wrote:
Personally i was really disappointed that they didn't announce the group draw on stream. Maybe i am just too much invested in this game and eSport
I was like.. "But but.. the draws?"... which left me with an empty feeling.

I wouldn't have minded that they announced when it would take place instead of actually doing it right after the groups concluded. But no announcement at all was really sad.

How you guys feel?


Exactly. Waiting for new group is very annoying, especially because West America is almost the latest region of the world.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
February 11 2019 13:12 GMT
#4
Good to see TooDming made it out in second place.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
February 11 2019 13:13 GMT
#5
It would be ok for draw to be today but streamed live, not just announced....
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 11 2019 13:17 GMT
#6
Wtf is this, crazy upsets. Rail taking Bly down, Hateme taking both Zanster and Sortof. Nerchio and Toodming placing last in their group? Coffe and Silky over TLO? Firefly knocking Has out?
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 13:24:57
February 11 2019 13:24 GMT
#7
On February 11 2019 22:17 Shuffleblade wrote:
Wtf is this, crazy upsets. Rail taking Bly down, Hateme taking both Zanster and Sortof. Nerchio and Toodming placing last in their group? Coffe and Silky over TLO? Firefly knocking Has out?


Nerchio
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 13:33:28
February 11 2019 13:32 GMT
#8
On February 11 2019 22:17 Shuffleblade wrote:
Wtf is this, crazy upsets. Rail taking Bly down, Hateme taking both Zanster and Sortof. Nerchio and Toodming placing last in their group? Coffe and Silky over TLO? Firefly knocking Has out?


These are upsets but not crazy upsets. That would be if soul spirit took out Serral.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 13:52:52
February 11 2019 13:51 GMT
#9
For me, Nerchio in last in not surprising, his results have become more and more poor. Rail getting out of his group is also not surprising, he's actually been getting so much better over the last ~6 months its crazy.

TLO is one of the more surprising upsets to me. Even though he's not exactly S tier foreigner anymore, I am still pretty surprised he couldn't make it out of a standard NA group. Also has not making it through... he probably could have won if he just played standard games lol
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
February 11 2019 13:57 GMT
#10
On February 11 2019 22:32 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 22:17 Shuffleblade wrote:
Wtf is this, crazy upsets. Rail taking Bly down, Hateme taking both Zanster and Sortof. Nerchio and Toodming placing last in their group? Coffe and Silky over TLO? Firefly knocking Has out?


These are upsets but not crazy upsets. That would be if soul spirit took out Serral.

i think some people don't realize that China/TW are competitive. we expect veterans like TLO and Bly to beat "unknown" players, but Chinese players are not unknowns, they're quite strong. who was expecting TLO to win again? i love TLO, he's one of the true good guys of the scene, but even a few years ago he wasn't a serious contender to win tournaments. Bly is not a standard or consistent player either

HateMe has also been a strong runner up in EU qualis for some time if you've been paying attention
TL+ Member
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6997 Posts
February 11 2019 14:37 GMT
#11
From the other thread:

On February 11 2019 21:30 Harris1st wrote:

Is there anything official about this? Will this be streamed? Are there any seeding rules? Can't wait! :D



On February 11 2019 04:18 feardragon wrote:

I asked about this earlier and I don’t think it’ll be ready by broadcast end but they want to have it announced by tomorrow. I’ll mention that on the broadcast at the end though and we’ll recap the Ro16 players.



if Feardragon is right, announcement should come in the next few hours :D

Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
February 11 2019 15:26 GMT
#12
On February 11 2019 23:37 Harris1st wrote:
From the other thread:

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 21:30 Harris1st wrote:

Is there anything official about this? Will this be streamed? Are there any seeding rules? Can't wait! :D



Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 04:18 feardragon wrote:

I asked about this earlier and I don’t think it’ll be ready by broadcast end but they want to have it announced by tomorrow. I’ll mention that on the broadcast at the end though and we’ll recap the Ro16 players.



if Feardragon is right, announcement should come in the next few hours :D


He is. Also rules for group drawing are in the WCS Winter rulebook.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 15:38:22
February 11 2019 15:32 GMT
#13
Good to see 3 Chinese players going through, especially considering all of them are young talents instead of veterans like iAsonu or TooDming. A competitive and healthy Chiense scene will benefit SC2 as an esports greatly given their huge player base and potential sponsorship.

edit: Just realised there are only a total of 10 Zerg players advancing in two regions, what happened to WCS?
SnowAngel
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland38 Posts
February 11 2019 15:33 GMT
#14
I don't see any crazy surprises. I would have predicted Nerchio, Bly and Has to play a bit better, and Hellraiser, Mcanning and Hateme to play a bit worse. But the level of competition in their groups was fairly even (match-ups considered).
Mcanning taking a map out of Special was my biggest surprise. But the guy seemed so genuinely happy about it, that it was a pleasant one.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
February 11 2019 16:36 GMT
#15
Only two EU terrans, but they are probably going to do really well. I hope we get an opportunity to see Serral play other matchups this year.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 17:09:19
February 11 2019 16:59 GMT
#16
On February 11 2019 22:17 Shuffleblade wrote:
Wtf is this, crazy upsets. Rail taking Bly down, Hateme taking both Zanster and Sortof. Nerchio and Toodming placing last in their group? Coffe and Silky over TLO? Firefly knocking Has out?

ZvZ is not a consistent match-up.
Nerchio and TooDMing are too old.
Coffee is not weak.He practiced hard when he was banned.
Chinese players know about Has' strategy.
Do not be so surprised.
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
February 11 2019 17:00 GMT
#17
Rip Nerchio
Mine gas, build tanks.
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 17:04:52
February 11 2019 17:03 GMT
#18
TLO's nydus is crazy.
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 11 2019 17:09 GMT
#19
On February 12 2019 01:59 RealityTheGreat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 22:17 Shuffleblade wrote:
Wtf is this, crazy upsets. Rail taking Bly down, Hateme taking both Zanster and Sortof. Nerchio and Toodming placing last in their group? Coffe and Silky over TLO? Firefly knocking Has out?

Rail is a good 2 bases player.
ZvZ is inconsistent.
Nerchio and TooDMing are too old.
Coffee is not weak.
Chinese players know about Has' strategy.
Do not be so surprised.


Nerchio is only 26 with healty wrist tho he's not that old, but he does look like the shadow of his 2016-17 self
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
February 11 2019 17:36 GMT
#20
On February 12 2019 01:59 RealityTheGreat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 22:17 Shuffleblade wrote:
Wtf is this, crazy upsets. Rail taking Bly down, Hateme taking both Zanster and Sortof. Nerchio and Toodming placing last in their group? Coffe and Silky over TLO? Firefly knocking Has out?

ZvZ is not a consistent match-up.
Nerchio and TooDMing are too old.
Coffee is not weak.He practiced hard when he was banned.
Chinese players know about Has' strategy.
Do not be so surprised.


ZvZ is pretty much as consistent as the other match-ups, especially since we no longer (or most of the time don't) see ling baneling vs ling baneling anymore.
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
23:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #17
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 86
SortOf 42
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3207
Icarus 5
Dota 2
monkeys_forever488
NeuroSwarm96
League of Legends
JimRising 942
Trikslyr33
Other Games
summit1g10473
WinterStarcraft474
C9.Mang0352
Mew2King276
kaitlyn32
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1178
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream346
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 19
• Adnapsc2 3
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1261
• Lourlo994
• Stunt359
Other Games
• Shiphtur216
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
6h 11m
PiGosaur Cup
19h 11m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Wardi Open
1d 6h
OSC
1d 7h
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 18h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
OSC
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.