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WCS Winter RO32 concludes, RO16 groups drawn - Page 2

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Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
February 11 2019 18:28 GMT
#21
The real stories for me are:

China having a really good showing. As someone who hasn't really been following the Chinese scene, it's cool to see they're at least competitive with the NA scene. Not to mention they were probably playing with lag.

Awesome to see PSiArc qualify even if he didn't have the best showing. Really great to see such an underrepresented region.

Lots of NA ladder heroes doing well, which is cool to see. Players like MCanning, Silky, Epic, ect.

Protoss surpasses Zerg as the most qualifying race for WCS (14 P 10 Z 8 T). Overall relatively even racial distribution, but given how Zerg dominated it's been in the past, it's cool to see it's being mixed up a bit.
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Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
February 11 2019 18:29 GMT
#22
On February 12 2019 02:09 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2019 01:59 RealityTheGreat wrote:
On February 11 2019 22:17 Shuffleblade wrote:
Wtf is this, crazy upsets. Rail taking Bly down, Hateme taking both Zanster and Sortof. Nerchio and Toodming placing last in their group? Coffe and Silky over TLO? Firefly knocking Has out?

Rail is a good 2 bases player.
ZvZ is inconsistent.
Nerchio and TooDMing are too old.
Coffee is not weak.
Chinese players know about Has' strategy.
Do not be so surprised.


Nerchio is only 26 with healty wrist tho he's not that old, but he does look like the shadow of his 2016-17 self


Well, not many players kept form consistent for long time. This might be temporary slump. He might be beast in other half of year, who knows. Same as we expected of Clem to be monster and he failed to deliver expected results.
offensePlayer
Profile Joined February 2019
1 Post
February 11 2019 19:02 GMT
#23
This forum is awesome team liquiddd
Semikolon
Profile Joined February 2016
Norway46 Posts
February 11 2019 20:10 GMT
#24
Hmmm, still no Ro16 group announcement... I find that a bit odd. Let's at least hope they share the groups before the day is over.

Anyway - great tournament so far, and solid viewership!
_Nova_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States167 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 20:16:13
February 11 2019 20:15 GMT
#25
Seems kinda dumb and unfair for Group A that the draws haven't happened yet.. They're not going to have much time to prepare.

EDIT: Actually, Group A showing on Liquipedia now? But none of the others.
hg2g2
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada71 Posts
February 11 2019 20:21 GMT
#26
On February 12 2019 05:15 _Nova_ wrote:
Seems kinda dumb and unfair for Group A that the draws haven't happened yet.. They're not going to have much time to prepare.

EDIT: Actually, Group A showing on Liquipedia now? But none of the others.


Europe's groups are set on Liquipedia but not America's yet...

Serral only has to prepare for Protoss.
Semikolon
Profile Joined February 2016
Norway46 Posts
February 11 2019 20:23 GMT
#27
There we go!

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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 20:40:15
February 11 2019 20:29 GMT
#28
Was there a seeding for groups?
Seems like the top dog (except uthermal I guess) all got there own group

Also group B is the group of dead I think

Lol nvm that NA group A wtf
Scarlet-Special-Cham
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 20:33:39
February 11 2019 20:31 GMT
#29
America groups also on Blizz WCS site now:
https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/tournament/5190/

Group A = Group of Death Scarlett and Special wtf

Group C = Team America
very illegal and very uncool
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
February 11 2019 20:31 GMT
#30
Nice for serral and Elazer that they only have to focus on zvp
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 11 2019 20:40 GMT
#31
On February 12 2019 05:31 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Nice for serral and Elazer that they only have to focus on zvp

And for Gungfu, Harstem and Rail to only have to focus on pvp.

why even
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
February 11 2019 21:19 GMT
#32
On February 12 2019 05:31 argonautdice wrote:
America groups also on Blizz WCS site now:
https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/tournament/5190/

Group A = Group of Death Scarlett and Special wtf

Group C = Team America


Those groups seem very uneven. Seems like there was zero seeding except #1/#2 in Ro32 group.
HorussTv
Profile Joined June 2010
Mexico34 Posts
February 11 2019 21:21 GMT
#33
Press F to pay respects to the players in Serral's group.
Jank
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States308 Posts
February 11 2019 21:46 GMT
#34
I'm surprised to see future go 0-4 after seeing him take out special and puck to win cheesedelphia recently.
"You don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day." - Michael Parenti
herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
February 11 2019 21:56 GMT
#35
serral has it too easy lol
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
February 11 2019 21:59 GMT
#36
Why does Serral have the easiest group ever? By far the best player in by far the easiest group?

You kidding me?
CiuCiu
Profile Joined October 2015
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 22:03:54
February 11 2019 22:02 GMT
#37
I hate how the groups turned out. In EU, both (all of the) terrans are in the same group. Two other groups are Zv3Ps. Also in NA you have Tv3Zs and Tv3Ps. Boring for the viewers and also unfair as one guy only need to prepare a single matchup.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 22:19:37
February 11 2019 22:18 GMT
#38
On February 12 2019 06:19 Kalera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2019 05:31 argonautdice wrote:
America groups also on Blizz WCS site now:
https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/tournament/5190/

Group A = Group of Death Scarlett and Special wtf

Group C = Team America


Those groups seem very uneven. Seems like there was zero seeding except #1/#2 in Ro32 group.


It's strange EU group seems super seeded : the 3 semi finalist from Montreal get a group and Showtime who was equal with Uthermal in quarter get the last one, than the other 4 second place ends up pretty much in last years standing (Gungfu-Mana for the finalist and Uthermal-Elazer for the other 2. Probably just bracket luck but it make it so group A and D are way easier than B and C at least on paper. But I would be kind of shock that there was no seeding at all because Serral just got the easiest group 2 time in a row.
Conspiracy time

And then NA is just crazy imbalance lol
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
February 11 2019 22:52 GMT
#39
I mean putting Serral in the weakest group definitely improves the lives of other top tier players since they can now afford one upset in their own group.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
February 11 2019 22:52 GMT
#40
On February 12 2019 05:21 hg2g2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2019 05:15 _Nova_ wrote:
Seems kinda dumb and unfair for Group A that the draws haven't happened yet.. They're not going to have much time to prepare.

EDIT: Actually, Group A showing on Liquipedia now? But none of the others.


Europe's groups are set on Liquipedia but not America's yet...

Serral only has to prepare for Protoss.

Like Serral has to prepare to beat his opponents...
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