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GSL blocked non-korean WCS players?

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Mountain_Lee
Profile Joined January 2018
87 Posts
January 27 2019 05:04 GMT
#81
parrotpitaya
Profile Joined January 2019
Germany37 Posts
January 29 2019 10:33 GMT
#82
It seems scarlett still join the GSL?
Mudbuddha13
Profile Joined October 2018
9 Posts
January 30 2019 21:06 GMT
#83
i dont think they 'blocked' all foreigners like you said, its more like those who only 'moved' to Korea just to enter offline competitions, something like GSL is for home players, as you seen Scarlett and Sortof were able to compete, i would dare say even Special and NoRegret were able to apply because they've lived there for a certain amount of time.
difference is WCS has blocked korean players since whenever, GSL is pretty competition friendly.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-30 22:14:30
January 30 2019 22:11 GMT
#84
Major refused to comment about his withdrawal from GSL and told people to ask Blizzard (good luck with that). Given Showtime's comments on the same and all the withdrawals from GSL, it's self-evident that region-lock won't work the same way it did last year. Except Scarlett qualified for GSL and still appears to be participating in WCS.

These contradictions are confusing. And we still don't know anything concrete, about region-lock or even WCS 2019 as a whole. Blizzard please.
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 31 2019 00:05 GMT
#85
On January 31 2019 07:11 pvsnp wrote:
Major refused to comment about his withdrawal from GSL and told people to ask Blizzard (good luck with that). Given Showtime's comments on the same and all the withdrawals from GSL, it's self-evident that region-lock won't work the same way it did last year. Except Scarlett qualified for GSL and still appears to be participating in WCS.

These contradictions are confusing. And we still don't know anything concrete, about region-lock or even WCS 2019 as a whole. Blizzard please.


Yep. I can understand a total foreigner ban, but the fact that Scarlett still gets to do both makes me wonder.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7180 Posts
January 31 2019 08:45 GMT
#86
And so the shitshow that is Blizzard recently continues...


It's gotta be sth to do with perma living in Korea, which Scarlett kinda does
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Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-31 09:16:38
January 31 2019 09:11 GMT
#87
They (Noregret, Sortof, etc.) said playing GSL qualifiers bans you from playing WCS Challenger for future WCS Stops... WCS Winter has nothing to do with this.

I asked Sortof in one of his streams a couple days ago why Special didn't try to qualify, and he said he chose to play LATAM Challenger (Copa América, which can pay him up to 4k$ per season, more than qualifying for GSL, he made 12k$ last year and 600 WCS points only with his Challenger). We will see when Scarlett (1.6k$ for first place in NA challenger with Neeb and Masa) or Sortof (too much level in EU) play in WCS stops.

Regarding the "ask Blizzard not me", "I'm not saying anything", etc. well.... it's Juanito we're talking about, as much as I like him he has always had this behaviour. Blizzard should release an official statement once and for all though.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
February 01 2019 03:53 GMT
#88
On January 31 2019 18:11 Elmonti wrote:
They (Noregret, Sortof, etc.) said playing GSL qualifiers bans you from playing WCS Challenger for future WCS Stops... WCS Winter has nothing to do with this.

I asked Sortof in one of his streams a couple days ago why Special didn't try to qualify, and he said he chose to play LATAM Challenger (Copa América, which can pay him up to 4k$ per season, more than qualifying for GSL, he made 12k$ last year and 600 WCS points only with his Challenger). We will see when Scarlett (1.6k$ for first place in NA challenger with Neeb and Masa) or Sortof (too much level in EU) play in WCS stops.

Regarding the "ask Blizzard not me", "I'm not saying anything", etc. well.... it's Juanito we're talking about, as much as I like him he has always had this behaviour. Blizzard should release an official statement once and for all though.


If this is the case, why is Scarlett allowed to play both?
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 01 2019 06:50 GMT
#89
region locking was always dumb. love how the scene keeps failing in terms of transparency/timing. The reality is if you want to undermine one group well then everyone should be playing by the same rules.

derp.
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
February 01 2019 07:19 GMT
#90
Scarlett said this might be her last gsl cause of the new rules with wcs
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 02 2019 10:03 GMT
#91
On February 01 2019 16:19 William paradise wrote:
Scarlett said this might be her last gsl cause of the new rules with wcs


But did Scarlett say anything about why all the other foreigners didn't want to play in one last GSL?
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Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 10:14:18
February 02 2019 10:13 GMT
#92
On February 01 2019 12:53 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2019 18:11 Elmonti wrote:
They (Noregret, Sortof, etc.) said playing GSL qualifiers bans you from playing WCS Challenger for future WCS Stops... WCS Winter has nothing to do with this.

I asked Sortof in one of his streams a couple days ago why Special didn't try to qualify, and he said he chose to play LATAM Challenger (Copa América, which can pay him up to 4k$ per season, more than qualifying for GSL, he made 12k$ last year and 600 WCS points only with his Challenger). We will see when Scarlett (1.6k$ for first place in NA challenger with Neeb and Masa) or Sortof (too much level in EU) play in WCS stops.

Regarding the "ask Blizzard not me", "I'm not saying anything", etc. well.... it's Juanito we're talking about, as much as I like him he has always had this behaviour. Blizzard should release an official statement once and for all though.


If this is the case, why is Scarlett allowed to play both?


Because as I said, WCS Winter has nothing to do with WCS Challenger, it just had a normal qualifier, without prize or WCS points. WCS stops do have Challenger.

On February 02 2019 19:03 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2019 16:19 William paradise wrote:
Scarlett said this might be her last gsl cause of the new rules with wcs


But did Scarlett say anything about why all the other foreigners didn't want to play in one last GSL?


She didn't. But all the europeans left the house without having news on GSL qualifiers, only Sortof stayed, and he tried to qualify. In the case of Special, his Challenger (Copa América) is easier and more rewarding than qualifying for GSLRo32.
FvRGg
Profile Joined June 2016
68 Posts
February 02 2019 11:53 GMT
#93
Competitively fair, but it could have waited a year so we could have some proper fucking communication.

The scene is not going to die because this waited until 2020. I'm sure GSL is not pleased about it either because foreigners have been bringing them some views, and now that several foreigners are top 20 in the world, GSL sort of loses its sheen as the pinnacle of open competition in starcraft.

I just fail to understand how completely inconsiderate blizzard is to all who are involved. I would expect an apology to the players with an announcement when it finally comes.
selmaquuen96
Profile Joined February 2019
3 Posts
February 02 2019 12:47 GMT
#94
On January 24 2019 14:51 v5872012 wrote:
Edited: TIME said he doesn't want to cause any trouble, so I will not show their communication record.

According to TIME and Cloudy, two Chinese progamer who was lived in Korea camp, said, non-korean players who play in GSL events cannot play in WCS events anymore since rules was changed. It was still not confirmed by Blizzard official.

Sry about my bad english skill

Money, dude. Everything costs money. It doesn't matter where you get the money from, it only matter how much you have, and what you spend it on. They might make tons of money on Diablo micro transactions in china, and if they think OWL is the future, they can put all of it into that.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10710 Posts
February 02 2019 14:42 GMT
#95
This feels like it's not such great news... =\
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EvanC
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada130 Posts
February 02 2019 15:00 GMT
#96
On February 01 2019 16:19 William paradise wrote:
Scarlett said this might be her last gsl cause of the new rules with wcs


This would be so sad.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
February 02 2019 15:17 GMT
#97
On February 03 2019 00:00 EvanC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2019 16:19 William paradise wrote:
Scarlett said this might be her last gsl cause of the new rules with wcs


This would be so sad.



This is good. No more double standards.
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 02 2019 15:36 GMT
#98
It’s been a staple of GSL since the beginning though, there has almost always been a foreigner in the qualifiers that sometimes gets to the Ro32 before getting bopped
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
February 02 2019 15:42 GMT
#99
On February 03 2019 00:36 Zzoram wrote:
It’s been a staple of GSL since the beginning though, there has almost always been a foreigner in the qualifiers that sometimes gets to the Ro32 before getting bopped

Well they wouldn't be banned from GSL. Just forced to make a choice, like the Koreans.

Would be real nice to have a WCS announcement though...
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darksagus
Profile Joined August 2010
United States39 Posts
February 02 2019 15:52 GMT
#100
People here acting like the 2 or 3 Koreans that will get GSL spots if foreigners are locked out is gonna revive the Korean SC2 scene. Those that are saying it's "fair" if foreigners are blocked forget why region lock was implemented in the first place. It was because every foreigner tournament had a couple Korean players enter and win 100% of the time, foreigners had no chance. When foreigners start winning GSL then we can talk about "fair".
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