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Code S Finals Preview: TY vs Maru - Page 2

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Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden592 Posts
September 14 2018 13:16 GMT
#21
Not to bash the article, but the editor. There were an unusually high amount of errors.

I like the inclusion of he statistics for the players with the extra information of which version that was active and the note of Demi and Strike.
Please sum up more statistics and facts in these articles! Too bad that a falsehood slipped in. Rogue wasn't first to hold the titles of WCS and IEM, not even the first player of Jin Air Green Wings. sOs did that 4 years earlier, gaining the nickname $o$.
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Lgnarrow
Profile Joined April 2015
104 Posts
September 14 2018 13:24 GMT
#22
"Maru is one series away from winning a third consecutive Code S championship and being crowned the greatest SC2 player of all time."

C'mon, even if he wins this and blizzcon he will not be the greatest.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 13:36:53
September 14 2018 13:33 GMT
#23
On September 14 2018 22:24 Lgnarrow wrote:
"Maru is one series away from winning a third consecutive Code S championship and being crowned the greatest SC2 player of all time."

C'mon, even if he wins this and blizzcon he will not be the greatest.

He wasn't banned and his tag isn't Mvp so of course he's not the greatest, he could win every GSL for 3 years straight and people would still be saying these guys are better.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
September 14 2018 13:53 GMT
#24
On September 14 2018 16:53 ejozl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 16:12 algue wrote:
I've long maintained that TvT is the best mirror in StarCraft II

Used to feel the same but then LotV and the cyclone happened (also the cancerous tank drop in HotS)

Since HotS introduced Medivac Boost, it's just not been the same. TvT was my favourite matchup even though I'm Protoss.

Show nested quote +
Outside of GSL, Maru swatted down Serral.

I feel like this line is somewhat deceitful, since it's supposed to add to Maru's accomplishments, but in reality INSIDE of GSL Serral beat Maru and the games that are in talking isn't exactly Serral getting swatted down.

Are you brand new to SC2? You must be! Serral has NEVER defeated Maru in GSL, in fact Serral has NEVER PLAYED in GSL.

It blows my mind how many people on this forum think that Serral has won a GSL - on one hand I'm happy that SC2 has a resurgence of fans, on the other hand it's frustrating that they the new ones are so loud and confident despite not even knowing what GSL is!

Serral got absolutely DOMINATED and embarassed at WESG - go watch those games. They weren't even remotely close - not a single one of them. "Swatted down" is a way of putting what happened at WESG that makes Serral look more respectable.

-------------------------------------------------------

Anyway, I am predicted a 4 - 0 for Maru, though TY is one of my favorite players so I hope I'm wrong. If we don't see domination from Maru I'm sure we will see the TvT meta shift in this series with some new ideas so should be fun to watch.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 14 2018 13:57 GMT
#25
On September 14 2018 22:53 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 16:53 ejozl wrote:
On September 14 2018 16:12 algue wrote:
I've long maintained that TvT is the best mirror in StarCraft II

Used to feel the same but then LotV and the cyclone happened (also the cancerous tank drop in HotS)

Since HotS introduced Medivac Boost, it's just not been the same. TvT was my favourite matchup even though I'm Protoss.

Outside of GSL, Maru swatted down Serral.

I feel like this line is somewhat deceitful, since it's supposed to add to Maru's accomplishments, but in reality INSIDE of GSL Serral beat Maru and the games that are in talking isn't exactly Serral getting swatted down.

Are you brand new to SC2? You must be! Serral has NEVER defeated Maru in GSL, in fact Serral has NEVER PLAYED in GSL.

It blows my mind how many people on this forum think that Serral has won a GSL - on one hand I'm happy that SC2 has a resurgence of fans, on the other hand it's frustrating that they the new ones are so loud and confident despite not even knowing what GSL is!

Serral got absolutely DOMINATED and embarassed at WESG - go watch those games. They weren't even remotely close - not a single one of them. "Swatted down" is a way of putting what happened at WESG that makes Serral look more respectable.

-------------------------------------------------------

Anyway, I am predicted a 4 - 0 for Maru, though TY is one of my favorite players so I hope I'm wrong. If we don't see domination from Maru I'm sure we will see the TvT meta shift in this series with some new ideas so should be fun to watch.

It really looked like Maru was trying to embarass Serral, making 10 nukes at a time while doing a 13 rax bio transition. He stomped Reynor quick and clean but decided to play around with Serral for some reason.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
September 14 2018 14:00 GMT
#26
counting that WCS as a Korean championship insults me
jinroairwings
Profile Joined August 2018
11 Posts
September 14 2018 14:08 GMT
#27
On September 14 2018 22:08 MockHamill wrote:
I hope Meru 4-0 TY so that Serral can 4-0 Maru at Blizzcon.


Maru is way better than Serral. Go watch WESG and you'll see why.

The only reason Maru lost in GSL vs. World was because he didn't take any of the games seriously, and I don't blame him.
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
September 14 2018 14:46 GMT
#28
On September 14 2018 21:52 Dave4 wrote:
Shocking that the fact Maru is in the only Korean team house left is continually overlooked in these posts.

The rise of the team house is generally considered the primary conduit for the Korean-Foreigner gap that built up in the Broodwar/SC2 scenes. Nowhere else was replicating a situation where the player simply has more hours to train, more eyes to analyse their play, more brains to come up with strategies, and more teammates to practice against their opponents.

I'm not going to say Maru is bad, he is clearly an excellent player but how can this be continually ignored?

Of course he has a massive upper edge over every other player in the scene right now. In the Korean tournament which is specifically designed to be over a long period (giving time for coaches and teammates to help practice and strategise against his opponents), Maru simply has a very distinct upper hand now which you can't really ignore while saying that he is having the most dominant run in SC2.

Meanwhile, Serral has taken 4 tournament in a row (Maru only has 2), in a tournament with more rounds and players (so more opportunities to falter) and over a much shorter time (so fatigue comes into play). Moreover, Serral won the H2H at GSLvWorld when the stakes were actually evened.

There's no doubt that Maru is currently the strongest Korean, and Serral is the strongest World player. The difference is Serral is doing it without help or handicaps.

TY will take this 4-2.


This is hilarious.. completely ignore the level of play of the field of competition. Serral has taken 4 tournaments in a row and outside of gsl vs the world faced no one outside of neeb who would even be competitive in code s. Compare apples and oranges more lol.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 14 2018 14:49 GMT
#29
On September 14 2018 22:33 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 22:24 Lgnarrow wrote:
"Maru is one series away from winning a third consecutive Code S championship and being crowned the greatest SC2 player of all time."

C'mon, even if he wins this and blizzcon he will not be the greatest.

He wasn't banned and his tag isn't Mvp so of course he's not the greatest, he could win every GSL for 3 years straight and people would still be saying these guys are better.

Yeah but Mvp was literally dead and still managed to win.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 14 2018 15:01 GMT
#30
On September 14 2018 23:49 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 22:33 Morbidius wrote:
On September 14 2018 22:24 Lgnarrow wrote:
"Maru is one series away from winning a third consecutive Code S championship and being crowned the greatest SC2 player of all time."

C'mon, even if he wins this and blizzcon he will not be the greatest.

He wasn't banned and his tag isn't Mvp so of course he's not the greatest, he could win every GSL for 3 years straight and people would still be saying these guys are better.

Yeah but Mvp was literally dead and still managed to win.

His body was falling apart.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
September 14 2018 15:49 GMT
#31
On September 14 2018 23:08 jinroairwings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 22:08 MockHamill wrote:
I hope Meru 4-0 TY so that Serral can 4-0 Maru at Blizzcon.


Maru is way better than Serral. Go watch WESG and you'll see why.

The only reason Maru lost in GSL vs. World was because he didn't take any of the games seriously, and I don't blame him.



The only reason I haven't won GSL is I don't take my games seriously!

Not a great argument. We'll see in Blizzcon. If Maru loses, I'm sure it'll be because he didn't take the thought of $200k seriously.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
dr3am_b3ing
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada188 Posts
September 14 2018 15:50 GMT
#32
Really good write up

Maru 4-2 TY
Potassium Gang
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
September 14 2018 16:03 GMT
#33
i'm so hyped for this shit! i have badly missed gomtvt days and have warm memories watching it. now the level of play has advanced to such an insane degree its gonna be sick!!!! why does the OP think we won't get another innovation vs taeja on newkirk?????

i'm ok if its a one sided stomp though, sc2 needs a dominant player. a lot of times games history looked very coin flippy and rock paper scissor, but there were players that transcended that. i hope maru becomes the god that we need.

but yah sad about how badly gumiho got rekt, and sad that with maru in the way soo will never win a finals until he elevates his own play to a similar level
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 16:16:36
September 14 2018 16:16 GMT
#34
Maru to fulfill the Legend.
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
September 14 2018 16:19 GMT
#35
On September 15 2018 00:49 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 23:08 jinroairwings wrote:
On September 14 2018 22:08 MockHamill wrote:
I hope Meru 4-0 TY so that Serral can 4-0 Maru at Blizzcon.


Maru is way better than Serral. Go watch WESG and you'll see why.

The only reason Maru lost in GSL vs. World was because he didn't take any of the games seriously, and I don't blame him.



The only reason I haven't won GSL is I don't take my games seriously!

Not a great argument. We'll see in Blizzcon. If Maru loses, I'm sure it'll be because he didn't take the thought of $200k seriously.


Mentality approaching a game and its psychology have very well known and understood effects on one's performance. I'm sure Maru didn't think of not talking the BO1 with Serral seriously, but there is no doubt in my mind that he wasn't as laser focused as he would be during a BOX at Blizzcon or GSL. No doubt. Also, a BO1 means absolutely nothing.
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
September 14 2018 16:20 GMT
#36
On September 14 2018 22:24 Lgnarrow wrote:
"Maru is one series away from winning a third consecutive Code S championship and being crowned the greatest SC2 player of all time."

C'mon, even if he wins this and blizzcon he will not be the greatest.


True, he hasn't found a cure for cancer yet or won a Nobel price.
Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
September 14 2018 17:10 GMT
#37
Great preview, had fun reading it
Stats, Dark, Maru <3
droppanda
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia176 Posts
September 14 2018 17:35 GMT
#38
Those that keep bringing up comparison with Serral and how it’s debatable if Serral is better than Maru, please, there is no debate. Not even close. Just wait until BlizzCon and we will all find out.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
September 14 2018 17:41 GMT
#39
Easy Maru - TY 4-1
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 18:03:54
September 14 2018 18:00 GMT
#40
On September 14 2018 22:24 Lgnarrow wrote:
"Maru is one series away from winning a third consecutive Code S championship and being crowned the greatest SC2 player of all time."

C'mon, even if he wins this and blizzcon he will not be the greatest.

Agreed but for some reason lots of people don't want to accept Inno as the Goat.
I don't know if they find him too boring or his playstyle isn't flashy enough or what but for some reason those people try everything to disregard his achievements and put other less accomplished players above him.
It's no surprise that they use this opportunity of Maru having a hot streak to advertise him as the new Goat and hope the recency bias is strong enough that people fall for it.
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