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Serral defeats Has to win WCS Valencia 2018 - Page 2

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Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
215 Posts
July 15 2018 17:14 GMT
#21
Congratulations to Serral for the 3-piece, truly an astonishing achievement!

On another note, what a crazy finals that was. I think everyone was expecting Showtime to get to the finals. Has clearly looked at the upsets MaNa was pulling in Austin and went: "I can do better", because he really did put up a good fight against the man who on paper should 100-0 Has.

Also, I highly recommend everyone to check out Feardragon's video on Has and his playstyle: www.youtube.com
Ympulse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States287 Posts
July 15 2018 19:06 GMT
#22
Has = Ratings. If he could just learn to expand (Or even learn to take gas) while keeping the crazy aggression, he could redefine the meta.
PuddleZerg
Profile Joined August 2015
United States82 Posts
July 15 2018 19:19 GMT
#23
On July 15 2018 21:57 MockHamill wrote:
Serral is so good now that he needs better opponents in order to increase his skill.

I do not think foreigners provide much of a challenge for him any more.

He's played them before, he lost.

It's why he's not in the GSL. Good financial decision but poor competitive one. Ironic, its the same thing why we cried for region locking because the Koreans were taking all our money.
"Weapons grade autism" - Destiny
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 15 2018 19:30 GMT
#24
On July 16 2018 04:19 PuddleZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2018 21:57 MockHamill wrote:
Serral is so good now that he needs better opponents in order to increase his skill.

I do not think foreigners provide much of a challenge for him any more.

He's played them before, he lost.

It's why he's not in the GSL. Good financial decision but poor competitive one. Ironic, its the same thing why we cried for region locking because the Koreans were taking all our money.

Yawn. He also played them before and won. He has a pretty good record against them this year, except for the latest losses against soO which you seem to have in your memory. proof
saltis
Profile Joined September 2012
159 Posts
July 15 2018 20:59 GMT
#25
On July 15 2018 18:48 jahnesta wrote:
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On July 15 2018 18:42 Dumbledore wrote:
Serral won the tourny,
Has won my fandom.

Also why did they not use TaiWans flag in wcs for Has??


I assume that's because Blizzard want to continue to earn money from China


Because Taiwan is not recognized as independent country by UN. Thank's to USA who adopted diplomatic relationship with China by kicking Taiwan out of UN in 1971.
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-16 16:03:28
July 15 2018 21:34 GMT
#26
On July 16 2018 04:30 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2018 04:19 PuddleZerg wrote:
On July 15 2018 21:57 MockHamill wrote:
Serral is so good now that he needs better opponents in order to increase his skill.

I do not think foreigners provide much of a challenge for him any more.

He's played them before, he lost.

It's why he's not in the GSL. Good financial decision but poor competitive one. Ironic, its the same thing why we cried for region locking because the Koreans were taking all our money.

Yawn. He also played them before and won. He has a pretty good record against them this year, except for the latest losses against soO which you seem to have in your memory. proof


and maru was kind of toying around with serral at WESG... but with the raven nerf it might look diffent now. im sure he can keep up with top koreans. we'll find out soon.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-15 21:44:22
July 15 2018 21:42 GMT
#27
Serral did what was expected. But Has was the real mvp for making the tournament fun. I don't think I'd have watched much past the ro16 if not for him. It's a shame he made a couple mistakes in the final, because that series was winnable at time.

On July 16 2018 04:30 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2018 04:19 PuddleZerg wrote:
On July 15 2018 21:57 MockHamill wrote:
Serral is so good now that he needs better opponents in order to increase his skill.

I do not think foreigners provide much of a challenge for him any more.

He's played them before, he lost.

It's why he's not in the GSL. Good financial decision but poor competitive one. Ironic, its the same thing why we cried for region locking because the Koreans were taking all our money.

Yawn. He also played them before and won. He has a pretty good record against them this year, except for the latest losses against soO which you seem to have in your memory. proof

Beating Impact, Trust, and Zest isn't exactly shocking.

The only results I'd give weight to were him winning a close series against Trap (3-2), and beating Classic in the 3rd place match of wesg (3-1). Other than that he basically doesn't have any relevent results.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-15 21:59:10
July 15 2018 21:56 GMT
#28
Beating Rogue is pretty good I'd say. And Zest is good too usually, I don't know how he good he was at the time of IEM but he was pretty good at some points this year.

I haven't seen his last matches against Maru, but Serral's "weakness" is Terran and you know how Maru is decimating everyone atm. His matches against soO were pretty close and could've ended different, soO was just slightly better that day.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55583 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-15 21:57:53
July 15 2018 21:57 GMT
#29
On July 16 2018 06:56 HolydaKing wrote:
Beating Rogue is pretty good I'd say. And Zest is good too usually, I don't know how he good he was at the time of IEM but he was pretty good at some points this year.

Zest's PvZ is like upper mid-tier WCS level in offline matches.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
PuddleZerg
Profile Joined August 2015
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-15 22:54:53
July 15 2018 22:53 GMT
#30
On July 16 2018 04:30 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2018 04:19 PuddleZerg wrote:
On July 15 2018 21:57 MockHamill wrote:
Serral is so good now that he needs better opponents in order to increase his skill.

I do not think foreigners provide much of a challenge for him any more.

He's played them before, he lost.

It's why he's not in the GSL. Good financial decision but poor competitive one. Ironic, its the same thing why we cried for region locking because the Koreans were taking all our money.

Yawn. He also played them before and won. He has a pretty good record against them this year, except for the latest losses against soO which you seem to have in your memory. proof

I was referring to his games losing to Maru that were mentioned on stream at Valencia, good to know he lost to soO too. Stop trying to pretend you know what people think, you don't have that ability.
"Weapons grade autism" - Destiny
Sphairos
Profile Joined July 2018
22 Posts
July 15 2018 23:05 GMT
#31
I feel that if Has simply was consistent in cheesing , he would have made it to the finals much easier. Just cannon rush the zergs third, not only the natural. Cannon rush Showtimes new nexus etc. He definitely threw a lot of games. He tapped out with Serral when corruptors reached his 2 nexai , instead he should have warped a bunch of stalkers at each one and sniped 5 corruptors, he had like 9+ gates ... He would be Ok even if they destroyed the nexai.

So if he could improve , he will be terrifying.
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain886 Posts
July 15 2018 23:25 GMT
#32
How would an hybrid of Has and sOs play?
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 15 2018 23:30 GMT
#33
Good writeup but it doesn't really convey the phenomenal level of play that Has was showing. Sure, not enough to beat Serral, but the execution, micro, and for the most part the decisionmaking were all incredibly impressive.
spritzz
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada331 Posts
July 16 2018 02:42 GMT
#34
What Has made it to finals??! :D Time to find the vods.
zugzug
GreatTrash
Profile Joined December 2017
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-16 05:56:23
July 16 2018 05:51 GMT
#35
On July 16 2018 06:42 Fango wrote:
Serral did what was expected. But Has was the real mvp for making the tournament fun. I don't think I'd have watched much past the ro16 if not for him. It's a shame he made a couple mistakes in the final, because that series was winnable at time.

Show nested quote +
On July 16 2018 04:30 HolydaKing wrote:
On July 16 2018 04:19 PuddleZerg wrote:
On July 15 2018 21:57 MockHamill wrote:
Serral is so good now that he needs better opponents in order to increase his skill.

I do not think foreigners provide much of a challenge for him any more.

He's played them before, he lost.

It's why he's not in the GSL. Good financial decision but poor competitive one. Ironic, its the same thing why we cried for region locking because the Koreans were taking all our money.

Yawn. He also played them before and won. He has a pretty good record against them this year, except for the latest losses against soO which you seem to have in your memory. proof

Beating Impact, Trust, and Zest isn't exactly shocking.

The only results I'd give weight to were him winning a close series against Trap (3-2), and beating Classic in the 3rd place match of wesg (3-1). Other than that he basically doesn't have any relevent results.


He also beat Rogue in Katowice. I know people in these parts are toxic Korean supremacists, but you're doing it based on lies now. Serral's won more against high level Koreans than lost this year. Serral was top 4 in Katowice, a tournament full of top Koreans, some of whom didn't even make it to ro32.

People here lying about results to belittle Serral are just miserable, racist pieces of shit. If TL feels the need to ban me for speaking the truth, good. Bathing among this sewage filth isn't good for the soul anyway.

User was banned for this post.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-16 06:02:52
July 16 2018 06:00 GMT
#36
On July 16 2018 08:05 Sphairos wrote:
I feel that if Has simply was consistent in cheesing , he would have made it to the finals much easier. Just cannon rush the zergs third, not only the natural. Cannon rush Showtimes new nexus etc. He definitely threw a lot of games. He tapped out with Serral when corruptors reached his 2 nexai , instead he should have warped a bunch of stalkers at each one and sniped 5 corruptors, he had like 9+ gates ... He would be Ok even if they destroyed the nexai.

So if he could improve , he will be terrifying.

the battery-robo rushes against Serral were also poorly done. not to take away anything from either, it s probably the nerves, but never seen a robo rush getting un-powered before due to poor pylon placement before. Also he forgot to remake a canon at least to protect against ling surrounds.

Also, to the people trying to discredit Serral's wins against koreans this year, just get a grip on reality...

You could do the same mental gymnastics and discredit Maru's GSL wins, well he only beat Zest, Rogue and Classic, it s not like he s beating the best
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
vyzion87
Profile Joined July 2018
17 Posts
July 16 2018 07:10 GMT
#37
I loved watching Serral for exceptional play. I loved watching Has for excitement and also good play...I think he has a ton of potential.
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
July 16 2018 09:32 GMT
#38
On July 16 2018 14:51 GreatTrash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2018 06:42 Fango wrote:
Serral did what was expected. But Has was the real mvp for making the tournament fun. I don't think I'd have watched much past the ro16 if not for him. It's a shame he made a couple mistakes in the final, because that series was winnable at time.

On July 16 2018 04:30 HolydaKing wrote:
On July 16 2018 04:19 PuddleZerg wrote:
On July 15 2018 21:57 MockHamill wrote:
Serral is so good now that he needs better opponents in order to increase his skill.

I do not think foreigners provide much of a challenge for him any more.

He's played them before, he lost.

It's why he's not in the GSL. Good financial decision but poor competitive one. Ironic, its the same thing why we cried for region locking because the Koreans were taking all our money.

Yawn. He also played them before and won. He has a pretty good record against them this year, except for the latest losses against soO which you seem to have in your memory. proof

Beating Impact, Trust, and Zest isn't exactly shocking.

The only results I'd give weight to were him winning a close series against Trap (3-2), and beating Classic in the 3rd place match of wesg (3-1). Other than that he basically doesn't have any relevent results.


He also beat Rogue in Katowice. I know people in these parts are toxic Korean supremacists, but you're doing it based on lies now. Serral's won more against high level Koreans than lost this year. Serral was top 4 in Katowice, a tournament full of top Koreans, some of whom didn't even make it to ro32.

People here lying about results to belittle Serral are just miserable, racist pieces of shit. If TL feels the need to ban me for speaking the truth, good. Bathing among this sewage filth isn't good for the soul anyway.


oh man... cant you american restrict this to your politics? noone outside america likes to discuss on this level.
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
July 16 2018 10:05 GMT
#39
Congrats to Serral! It's amazing how dominant he is outside of Korea and how long of a period it has been. He said it's unlikely to get yet another trophy but at this point I think it's almost expected.
starcraft2.fi
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
July 16 2018 12:22 GMT
#40
Wow, looks like he crushed the tournament just based on the scores. Also speaks well of Scarlett for being a game away from beating him.
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