EPTMaru vs Zest - GSL Grand Finals Preview - Page 5
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
On June 23 2018 18:53 DreamOen wrote: It took Teamliquid writers longer to write this up than the finals took to be played. LOL. Brutal but true. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On June 22 2018 13:34 zealotstim wrote: Anyone who expects a 4-0 is seriously underestimating of of these players. Now the 4-0 for Maru that many expected happened though, I don't think it was a bold prediction. | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
On June 23 2018 18:56 HolydaKing wrote: Now the 4-0 for Maru that many expected happened though, I don't think it was a bold prediction. It is 4-0 in prediction and in reality but I don't think the writer expected this kind of "4-0". It took 33 mins for Maru to get this 4-0. Normally, with that amount of time, we should be at 2-0 max in GSL Final. | ||
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dicey
142 Posts
On June 23 2018 19:02 Vutalisk wrote:It took 33 mins for Maru to get this 4-0. Normally, with that amount of time, we should be at 2-0 max in GSL Final. There should be a deal where if a final is shorter than 1h:30 (production reels and all) they'll also stream a caster FFA or dare the 3rd or 4th placed players to cheese the champion for a 2% part of his winnings; all in good fun that is. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On June 23 2018 05:54 Olli wrote: The impressive names here are Zest, TY, Stats, Dark, Dear and Solar. That's exactly what I said. A handful of good players in Bo1s. Everyone else was bad. I've been to four HSCs. If you think the Koreans don't take it seriously you're wrong. They go straight home after their matches and spend the entire event practicing until they're eliminated. Plus the level of play was much higher than it was in 2016 for reasons I have highlighted multiple times. Anyway, you are still completely, 100% missing the point. Some guy tried to argue that Maru didn't go through a slump comparable to Zest's. Well, after his Proleague run Maru did literally nothing for the rest of 2016. And then did very little in 2017 too. He did a bit better than Zest in 2017, but also did very significantly worse in 2016. To suggest the two arent comparable is absurd. The impressive names are literally every good player in korea minus ByuN. You can't call Gumiho, aLive, Classic, Myungsik etc bad when they were making ro8/ro4 in starleagues. And even INno was good in proleague. As far as the original point goes, I think Zest and Maru both had amazing 2016s. Zest winning GSL and Maru having the best proleague run ever. In fact in terms of map score they were similar, 19-3 and 22-4. And in terms of opponents Maru played more maps against elite players. However neither did anything amazing in 2017, it was a slump year for both of them. And Maru did better in every korean tournament. To me (and I would assume the players), those are the events that really matter. 5-4 in SSL and ro4 in GSL, those are good results. Zest went 1-9 in SSL and his peak was GSL ro32, that is significantly worse. I love HSC, but it can't make up for lacking results in real championships. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
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necrosexy
451 Posts
On June 23 2018 23:44 [F_]aths wrote: I looked into this *preview* and the bracket at the bottom spoiled it the kludgerific "spoiler free" toggle fails again | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16030 Posts
On June 23 2018 23:44 [F_]aths wrote: I looked into this *preview* and the bracket at the bottom spoiled it click on "show spoiler" -complain about getting spoilered. genius | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On June 24 2018 01:13 Charoisaur wrote: click on "show spoiler" -complain about getting spoilered. genius I added the spoiler after seeing his post. Sorry that you got spoiled, mistake on my part | ||
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
On June 23 2018 10:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote: The UFC altered the starting time of their event so it comes on at 8 AM EST right after the GSL event is over. the UFC as in the United Fighting Championship? | ||
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Shathe
Hungary422 Posts
If it was a 0-4 with macro games would have it been any better for zest? No. | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
On June 24 2018 03:20 Shathe wrote: Its was short because Maru chose fast strategies and didnt let Zest reach mid game with aoe. If it was a 0-4 with macro games would have it been any better for zest? No. Are you serious? This is Maru. He is known for dropping left and right. At this high-level of TvP, either side will try to attack no matter what. No one will turtle at home. If they can't kill each other off then it will carry on to mid/late game. I mean game was mid-game, Zest had disruptors. | ||
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
On June 24 2018 04:01 Vutalisk wrote: Are you serious? This is Maru. He is known for dropping left and right. At this high-level of TvP, either side will try to attack no matter what. No one will turtle at home. If they can't kill each other off then it will carry on to mid/late game. I mean game was mid-game, Zest had disruptors. Maru's game is to stop them before the storms come out. He was successful in all that. | ||
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