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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 24 2018 15:28 GMT
#21
Katowice is going to be amazing. (hopfully) all the best Koreans, all the the best foreigners, and sorted into round robin groups. This will be the best picture we get all season of the relative strength of the foreigners. It will be glorious slaughter.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
February 24 2018 15:34 GMT
#22
On February 25 2018 00:17 OHGRinho wrote:
Good thing about "Power Rankings" is, they don't matter. They are based on someones opinion who did some analytics, of which we know nothing about. So I don't understand why so many people give a damn.

this is a starcraft forum hosted on a website for esports journalism, so running analytical articles about the current tournament and the players involved is pretty much exactly the kind of content i would expect here. the point is to stimulate discussion and hype?

what i don't understand is why people have to "discredit" power ranks as if the author is claiming they're important. it's just really basic sports journalism which you'll see in any major sport, it's for fun and to be informative to people who don't follow everything daily
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GothGirlGames
Profile Joined September 2017
167 Posts
February 24 2018 15:40 GMT
#23
Hu? top 6 is KR, 8 out of 10 is KR, I don't think this list says "foreigners are on par with koreans" at all.
But sure almost all casters have said that the gap seems to be getting smaller and smaller.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
February 24 2018 15:53 GMT
#24
On February 25 2018 00:40 GothGirlGames wrote:
Hu? top 6 is KR, 8 out of 10 is KR, I don't think this list says "foreigners are on par with koreans" at all.
But sure almost all casters have said that the gap seems to be getting smaller and smaller.

I think I'm the only one who put 3 of the 10 as foreigners. There were quite a few who only put 1, iirc.
Writermaru pls
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
February 24 2018 15:59 GMT
#25
why does it say hours away? sidebar says in 1d 18h?
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 24 2018 16:21 GMT
#26
On February 25 2018 00:08 Fango wrote:
Smh at putting Gumiho, Maru, Stats, and Dear below Serral and Scarlett

Yeah it's pretty ridiclous
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
February 24 2018 16:51 GMT
#27
rank 1 aligulac rank 8 in here. (christmassprit)
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 24 2018 17:17 GMT
#28
Wait will Maru be at IEM or not?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 24 2018 17:19 GMT
#29
On February 25 2018 02:17 Musicus wrote:
Wait will Maru be at IEM or not?


He is in the qualifiers, along with a number of other great players.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Mike L
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany162 Posts
February 24 2018 17:34 GMT
#30
On February 24 2018 23:11 Charoisaur wrote:
The WCS system is succeding in creating the illusion that foreigners are on par with koreans apparently.
Can't wait for the slaughter.

Reaching the GSL playoffs is apparently enough for Scarlett to get #7 but Maru who did the same in a harder group is somehow not even in the list??
Gumiho, Dear, Rogue, Trap and Impact should all be above Serral.


same case for Classic - he didn`t won any big tournament last year ( if i`d remember correct) but his recently monstrous results is apparently enough for earning #1 rank in this list.
and btw Maru recent results are little bit worse compared to Scarlett
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-24 17:56:48
February 24 2018 17:56 GMT
#31
On February 25 2018 02:34 Mike L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2018 23:11 Charoisaur wrote:
The WCS system is succeding in creating the illusion that foreigners are on par with koreans apparently.
Can't wait for the slaughter.

Reaching the GSL playoffs is apparently enough for Scarlett to get #7 but Maru who did the same in a harder group is somehow not even in the list??
Gumiho, Dear, Rogue, Trap and Impact should all be above Serral.
and btw Maru recent results are little bit worse compared to Scarlett


By what measure? Maru's GSL performance was better (both reached ro8 yes but Scarlett had an easier group), and results in the IEM/WeSG qualifiers were a lot better than Scarlett's.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
February 24 2018 18:32 GMT
#32
Scarlett and Serral are better than Rogue now, should have ranked dimaga ahead of Innovation too.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 24 2018 18:50 GMT
#33
On February 25 2018 02:19 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2018 02:17 Musicus wrote:
Wait will Maru be at IEM or not?


He is in the qualifiers, along with a number of other great players.

Okay, I know he hasn't done great for a while, but I'd still put him top 10 right now I think.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Mike L
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany162 Posts
February 24 2018 19:48 GMT
#34
On February 25 2018 02:56 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2018 02:34 Mike L wrote:
On February 24 2018 23:11 Charoisaur wrote:
The WCS system is succeding in creating the illusion that foreigners are on par with koreans apparently.
Can't wait for the slaughter.

Reaching the GSL playoffs is apparently enough for Scarlett to get #7 but Maru who did the same in a harder group is somehow not even in the list??
Gumiho, Dear, Rogue, Trap and Impact should all be above Serral.
and btw Maru recent results are little bit worse compared to Scarlett


By what measure? Maru's GSL performance was better (both reached ro8 yes but Scarlett had an easier group), and results in the IEM/WeSG qualifiers were a lot better than Scarlett's.


it wasn`t better in both stages Maru has not been even able to won his own group with always ranked second, plus that lose match against Keen didn`t spotted him in better light too. yes he did better performance at IEM quali but Scarlett had won IEM event not just simple quali, so at the end the consequence is that she defeated simply more formiddable opponents than Maru by recent time
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
February 24 2018 19:52 GMT
#35
On February 25 2018 03:32 Morbidius wrote:
Scarlett and Serral are better than Rogue now, should have ranked dimaga ahead of Innovation too.


Dimaga has not won any IEM tournaments recently iirc.

The last big tournament results were that Scarlett has beaten Rogue, Serral, Elazer (would have played Zest but Elazer knocked him out), SoS, Zest and Innovation in a row. 16-4 in games, hard to ignore that.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 24 2018 21:06 GMT
#36
On February 25 2018 04:48 Mike L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2018 02:56 Fango wrote:
On February 25 2018 02:34 Mike L wrote:
On February 24 2018 23:11 Charoisaur wrote:
The WCS system is succeding in creating the illusion that foreigners are on par with koreans apparently.
Can't wait for the slaughter.

Reaching the GSL playoffs is apparently enough for Scarlett to get #7 but Maru who did the same in a harder group is somehow not even in the list??
Gumiho, Dear, Rogue, Trap and Impact should all be above Serral.
and btw Maru recent results are little bit worse compared to Scarlett


By what measure? Maru's GSL performance was better (both reached ro8 yes but Scarlett had an easier group), and results in the IEM/WeSG qualifiers were a lot better than Scarlett's.


it wasn`t better in both stages Maru has not been even able to won his own group with always ranked second, plus that lose match against Keen didn`t spotted him in better light too. yes he did better performance at IEM quali but Scarlett had won IEM event not just simple quali, so at the end the consequence is that she defeated simply more formiddable opponents than Maru by recent time


Maru got second in the group to Classic, who is probably the best player in the world right now. While Scarlett had the easiest group in the ro16. In terms of IEM/WeSG events it's not even questinable that Maru has done better than Scarlett. The fact she won IEM doesn't mean much when you remember she qualified from NA and only beat one korean in the actual event.

Simply put, beating Solar/Dark/Dear/Gumiho in long macro games/series is more impressive than beating sOs and Inno with quick cheese. (How you choose to win doesn't really matter, but one method is more reliable than the other).
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland943 Posts
February 24 2018 21:25 GMT
#37
On February 24 2018 23:47 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2018 23:33 Elentos wrote:
On February 24 2018 23:11 Charoisaur wrote:
The WCS system is succeding in creating the illusion that foreigners are on par with koreans apparently.
Can't wait for the slaughter.

Reaching the GSL playoffs is apparently enough for Scarlett to get #7 but Maru who did the same in a harder group is somehow not even in the list??
Gumiho, Dear, Rogue, Trap and Impact should all be above Serral.

What has Rogue done this year?

Does the current world champion need results to be perceived highly?


Yes, absolutely.

Here's last year's PR:
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/519608-iem-katowice-preview-power-rank
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
Mike L
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany162 Posts
February 24 2018 21:51 GMT
#38
On February 25 2018 06:06 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2018 04:48 Mike L wrote:
On February 25 2018 02:56 Fango wrote:
On February 25 2018 02:34 Mike L wrote:
On February 24 2018 23:11 Charoisaur wrote:
The WCS system is succeding in creating the illusion that foreigners are on par with koreans apparently.
Can't wait for the slaughter.

Reaching the GSL playoffs is apparently enough for Scarlett to get #7 but Maru who did the same in a harder group is somehow not even in the list??
Gumiho, Dear, Rogue, Trap and Impact should all be above Serral.
and btw Maru recent results are little bit worse compared to Scarlett


By what measure? Maru's GSL performance was better (both reached ro8 yes but Scarlett had an easier group), and results in the IEM/WeSG qualifiers were a lot better than Scarlett's.


it wasn`t better in both stages Maru has not been even able to won his own group with always ranked second, plus that lose match against Keen didn`t spotted him in better light too. yes he did better performance at IEM quali but Scarlett had won IEM event not just simple quali, so at the end the consequence is that she defeated simply more formiddable opponents than Maru by recent time


Maru got second in the group to Classic, who is probably the best player in the world right now. While Scarlett had the easiest group in the ro16. In terms of IEM/WeSG events it's not even questinable that Maru has done better than Scarlett. The fact she won IEM doesn't mean much when you remember she qualified from NA and only beat one korean in the actual event.

Simply put, beating Solar/Dark/Dear/Gumiho in long macro games/series is more impressive than beating sOs and Inno with quick cheese. (How you choose to win doesn't really matter, but one method is more reliable than the other).


for me beating Rogue/soO/Elazer/Serral/sOs/Zest/Innovation in a row in two big tournaments, won IEM and ro16 GSL group is certainly much more impressive than beat Solar/Dark/Dear/Gumiho and achieve nothing
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
February 24 2018 22:03 GMT
#39
Massive Scarlett fan, but this is in my estimation the first REAL global tournament we’ve seen in years. I witnessed the foreigner bloodbaths of 2013-2014, and I know better than to get my hopes up here.

I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we get more than one foreigner in the top 12. I don’t think any will reach top 8.

(Really hoping I’m wrong, and there are foreigners here who have made deep runs before).
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
February 24 2018 22:08 GMT
#40
On February 25 2018 07:03 TheDougler wrote:
Massive Scarlett fan, but this is in my estimation the first REAL global tournament we’ve seen in years. I witnessed the foreigner bloodbaths of 2013-2014, and I know better than to get my hopes up here.

What about Katowice last year?
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