• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:53
CEST 06:53
KST 13:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202512Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder2EWC 2025 - Replay Pack2Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced27BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Shield Battery Server New Patch BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 639 users

Power Rank: IEM Katowice - Page 6

Forum Index > SC2 General
126 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 Next All
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 27 2018 18:08 GMT
#101
On February 28 2018 03:02 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 02:46 D-light wrote:
On February 27 2018 06:47 pNRG wrote:
Ranks 7 & 8 on this "top 10" are eliminated Day 1. Whoops.

And now #5 gone.

The tl writers sure dropped the ball with this power rank.


Unfortunately the community PR was never finished, so I can't link it to you and laugh

It will be done tomorrow
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12874 Posts
February 27 2018 20:34 GMT
#102
Scarlett was eliminated right before qualifying so her classement isn't that bad, especially since she beat decent players to her way there and lost in a mirror.
Stats on the other hand, losing to souL :x.

Bo3 all the way kinda sucks tho, you should be rewarded by a bo5 if you manage to go to the qualifying rounds.
WriterMaru
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
February 27 2018 20:38 GMT
#103
On February 28 2018 02:46 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 06:47 pNRG wrote:
Ranks 7 & 8 on this "top 10" are eliminated Day 1. Whoops.

And now #5 gone.

The tl writers sure dropped the ball with this power rank.


Well, soo was really disapointing, but in general with these brackets its obvious that some top players will fall early. and between the top players the gap are that close. with the hindsight bias its always easy...


wow... group a is gonna be awesome!
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
February 27 2018 20:51 GMT
#104
On February 28 2018 03:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:02 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 02:46 D-light wrote:
On February 27 2018 06:47 pNRG wrote:
Ranks 7 & 8 on this "top 10" are eliminated Day 1. Whoops.

And now #5 gone.

The tl writers sure dropped the ball with this power rank.


Unfortunately the community PR was never finished, so I can't link it to you and laugh

It will be done tomorrow

Yeah, we should take from you guys and release the PR after the tournament. :^)
Writermaru pls
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 27 2018 20:57 GMT
#105
On February 28 2018 05:51 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:02 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 02:46 D-light wrote:
On February 27 2018 06:47 pNRG wrote:
Ranks 7 & 8 on this "top 10" are eliminated Day 1. Whoops.

And now #5 gone.

The tl writers sure dropped the ball with this power rank.


Unfortunately the community PR was never finished, so I can't link it to you and laugh

It will be done tomorrow

Yeah, we should take from you guys and release the PR after the tournament. :^)

I just wanted to give the community the gsl ro16 results at least. Also i wasn't sure if i would even do one, but seeing the official one motivated me. The real tournament starts in 2 days anyway
But sure the timing isn't perfect
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
February 27 2018 21:00 GMT
#106
On February 28 2018 05:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 05:51 Soularion wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:02 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 02:46 D-light wrote:
On February 27 2018 06:47 pNRG wrote:
Ranks 7 & 8 on this "top 10" are eliminated Day 1. Whoops.

And now #5 gone.

The tl writers sure dropped the ball with this power rank.


Unfortunately the community PR was never finished, so I can't link it to you and laugh

It will be done tomorrow

Yeah, we should take from you guys and release the PR after the tournament. :^)

I just wanted to give the community the gsl ro16 results at least. Also i wasn't sure if i would even do one, but seeing the official one motivated me. The real tournament starts in 2 days anyway
But sure the timing isn't perfect

Oh it's cool, but it 100% renders a comparison between it and our PR irrelevant, especially regarding the players who played in open bracket.
Writermaru pls
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 27 2018 21:02 GMT
#107
I wouldn't say 100% useless tbh, i for example won't change my soO at 4th just because he had a really bad day. Also it's not actually a competition even if some people who tease the writers might create that illusion
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
pNRG
Profile Joined February 2012
United States333 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 15:28:17
February 28 2018 15:27 GMT
#108
I'm not talking negatively on the writers, just find it interesting that these top "favorites" or "heavyweights" are getting eliminated early. Major reason why I've always loved the bigger player pool IEM's (old IPL's & MLG's, etc).

/e Yes, the community will release our PR immediately after the tournament. You'll notice we're never wrong ;-)
"He's like a Kakuna with Flamestrike." - Artosis 25.7.2014 \\ "Sometimes you gotta' be manly to get out of the group stage, Reynad." -Artosis 17.10.2014 \\ “There goes your dream of a frivolous lawsuit with a brewing company.” – Tasteless 26.8.2015
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 28 2018 16:02 GMT
#109
StarCraft is a volatile game, these things have happened for years, especially in such stacked weekenders. All we can do is look at how well people have done recently and rank them in order of who we think is the best. We can't tell the future.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 18:43:06
February 28 2018 18:42 GMT
#110
Once again, for all that the community criticized this PR, the Community PR is still very similar. Aside from swapping Inno and sOs (3rd and 4th, respectively), the only difference was replacing the foreigners with Maru and Gumiho.

Foreigners being in the PR was the biggest criticism anyhow, and that seems to have played out correspondingly in the community's ranking.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
March 03 2018 19:39 GMT
#111
On February 26 2018 06:00 zealotstim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2018 23:11 Charoisaur wrote:
The WCS system is succeding in creating the illusion that foreigners are on par with koreans apparently.
Can't wait for the slaughter.

Reaching the GSL playoffs is apparently enough for Scarlett to get #7 but Maru who did the same in a harder group is somehow not even in the list??
Gumiho, Dear, Rogue, Trap and Impact should all be above Serral.


I agree about Serral though. Him making the list is pretty generous.


Just signing in to eat my words. Serral has been very strong.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
March 03 2018 23:00 GMT
#112
When this first hit I absolutely agreed that Classic was #1, he's in SCARY form atm. Guess it's easy to say now before the ro4 but his recent results did really justify his rank here. No rose tinted glasses, just straight results.
hi. big fan.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
March 03 2018 23:23 GMT
#113
Just peeking in to note how underestimated jin air was in this power rank =P
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
March 03 2018 23:42 GMT
#114
In particular, Maru not in a TOP10 of any PR is blasphemy.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 04 2018 00:15 GMT
#115
On March 04 2018 08:42 xongnox wrote:
In particular, Maru not in a TOP10 of any PR is blasphemy.


Maru wasn't really relevant in 2017
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
March 04 2018 01:30 GMT
#116
On March 04 2018 09:15 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 08:42 xongnox wrote:
In particular, Maru not in a TOP10 of any PR is blasphemy.


Maru wasn't really relevant in 2017

Please, Maru placed top 8 in 2/3 GSLs and in 2 SSLs.

In the korean WCS rankings he was 10th place, sure didn't go to blizzcon. But 10th best in korea by WCS points means you were pretty much top 10 in the world. If by "relevant" you mean he wasn't top 5 in the world you are right. Language wise not relevant pretty much means not qualifying for GSL, which Maru sure did, went deep too.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 04 2018 03:14 GMT
#117
On March 04 2018 10:30 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 09:15 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 04 2018 08:42 xongnox wrote:
In particular, Maru not in a TOP10 of any PR is blasphemy.


Maru wasn't really relevant in 2017

Please, Maru placed top 8 in 2/3 GSLs and in 2 SSLs.

In the korean WCS rankings he was 10th place, sure didn't go to blizzcon. But 10th best in korea by WCS points means you were pretty much top 10 in the world. If by "relevant" you mean he wasn't top 5 in the world you are right. Language wise not relevant pretty much means not qualifying for GSL, which Maru sure did, went deep too.

He wasn't super relevant at the end of the year when he was eliminated from his GSL group in last place, was functionally eliminated from SSL playoff contention after week 2, and lost in the first round of the GSL Super Tournament.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 04 2018 06:18 GMT
#118
He was never really a championship contender last year is the problem, never looked good enough.

Apart from WESG right at the start I suppose.
435
Profile Joined March 2018
39 Posts
March 04 2018 13:51 GMT
#119
And Rogue is not even in this list. Why? Becouse he has been bad in gsl lately. Its obvious after WCS championship he wanted to have holiday. Well might have been surpirse for many Seems that we have so short memory and only some months ago he won blizzcon and now isnt even in list. LOL
scartissue555
Profile Joined December 2017
7 Posts
March 04 2018 14:19 GMT
#120
Hey guys question ...

You know how they show the game from Maru's point of view earlier, and or from Rogue's in this last game. Like what they're doing, what they're clicking on.

Is it possible to get replays like that? Or nah. I'd like to watch a full game from Maru's point of view, what he's clicking on and how he's microing and such.
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 276
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4639
PianO 591
Leta 456
Nal_rA 155
zelot 79
Sexy 59
JulyZerg 45
Sacsri 44
Bale 39
Aegong 39
[ Show more ]
GoRush 34
Noble 21
Icarus 10
League of Legends
JimRising 826
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K205
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox622
Westballz20
Other Games
summit1g15120
shahzam1150
WinterStarcraft312
Maynarde179
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1359
BasetradeTV29
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta69
• practicex 36
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift7060
• Rush1518
• Stunt592
Other Games
• Scarra4327
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5h 7m
WardiTV European League
11h 7m
PiGosaur Monday
19h 7m
OSC
1d 7h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 11h
The PondCast
2 days
Online Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Online Event
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.