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keaneu
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)65 Posts
January 05 2018 16:39 GMT
#21
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.
Director, TitanEX1 Co., Ltd.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-05 18:23:48
January 05 2018 18:23 GMT
#22
On January 06 2018 01:39 keaneu wrote:
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.


Uhh... what?

What does this have to do with anything?
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 05 2018 18:29 GMT
#23
On January 06 2018 03:23 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 01:39 keaneu wrote:
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.


Uhh... what?

What does this have to do with anything?

I believe he's involved with the team
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 05 2018 18:31 GMT
#24
On January 06 2018 03:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 03:23 207aicila wrote:
On January 06 2018 01:39 keaneu wrote:
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.


Uhh... what?

What does this have to do with anything?

I believe he's involved with the team


As far as we know he is the team.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 05 2018 19:48 GMT
#25
yeah its 1 guy
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
MrFreeman
Profile Joined January 2015
207 Posts
January 05 2018 20:13 GMT
#26
On January 06 2018 01:39 keaneu wrote:
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.


That's very interesting. Few years ago, I was looking into developing some RTS agents, there was a lot of support and some nice API for SC1, so I've tried that, but since I don't know much about that game, debugging was a nightmare, it's really nice to see there is some groundwork laid out for SC2, I'll check it out, add something if I find the time, thanks a lot for all your efforts!
RoninKenshin
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada97 Posts
January 05 2018 23:31 GMT
#27
On January 06 2018 03:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 03:23 207aicila wrote:
On January 06 2018 01:39 keaneu wrote:
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.


Uhh... what?

What does this have to do with anything?

I believe he's involved with the team


Obviously naver translate or something was used and I don't fault you for that at all. I guess my question would be what kind of support are you giving the players? I understand if you don't want to give exact terms of contracts if there are any, but what are you doing for them? Do they get a team house provided? Meals? A small salary or stipend?

I understand gamer salaries can be incredibly low ($500-1000/month?), so it's not unbelievable for a relatively high net worth individual creating a team when the demand for players is low. However, I think the biggest tell of legitimacy is whether the players have been paid or have been receiving any sort of compensation yet. If keaneu or one of the players could confirm that, a lot of this thread will be put to rest and congratulations will be given without cease.
I'm with e-sports
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 06 2018 01:31 GMT
#28
On January 06 2018 08:31 RoninKenshin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 03:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 06 2018 03:23 207aicila wrote:
On January 06 2018 01:39 keaneu wrote:
Notwithstanding disbeliefs, I can understand where most of you come from. Been around here just for the scene about nearly 4 years now and have known rapid, tosis, et al quite a bit. Most of us when given a choice would prefer to telecommute with necessary tools now cheaply obtainable off-the-shelf. More about myself in relation to SC2 AI: http://starcraftgym.com and http://wiki.sc2ai.net/List_of_community_members . I skew opinions and amalgamate ideas of a Discord group backed by Blizzard, DeepMind, NVIDIA employees.


Uhh... what?

What does this have to do with anything?

I believe he's involved with the team


Obviously naver translate or something was used and I don't fault you for that at all. I guess my question would be what kind of support are you giving the players? I understand if you don't want to give exact terms of contracts if there are any, but what are you doing for them? Do they get a team house provided? Meals? A small salary or stipend?

I understand gamer salaries can be incredibly low ($500-1000/month?), so it's not unbelievable for a relatively high net worth individual creating a team when the demand for players is low. However, I think the biggest tell of legitimacy is whether the players have been paid or have been receiving any sort of compensation yet. If keaneu or one of the players could confirm that, a lot of this thread will be put to rest and congratulations will be given without cease.


Why would naver translate have been used?
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 06 2018 03:28 GMT
#29
Team gets prize money, doesn't pay players, then TL says, "GUYS WE COULDN'T HAVE KNOWN" calling it.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 04:02:09
January 06 2018 04:01 GMT
#30
Ok let's assume there isn't actually any money, even though the players thought there was some. What difference does it really make? It's not like they have a bunch of other opportunities waiting for them?

Edit:
I suppose, yes, it's possible if they are foolish and let their prize earnings go through the team first, then they can lose something out of it.
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 09:39:55
January 06 2018 09:38 GMT
#31
Posting a follow-up here: I met the guy from TitanEX1 today and talked with him for a while at GSL. I've known him for a while and he's a great guy who's super passionate about Starcraft. The sponsored players help test and work on their AI learning software for SC2. It's a pretty sweet deal that helps players like Leenock focus on just training for GSL.
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13321 Posts
January 06 2018 10:03 GMT
#32
On January 06 2018 18:38 rapidtransit247 wrote:
Posting a follow-up here: I met the guy from TitanEX1 today and talked with him for a while at GSL. I've known him for a while and he's a great guy who's super passionate about Starcraft. The sponsored players help test and work on their AI learning software for SC2. It's a pretty sweet deal that helps players like Leenock focus on just training for GSL.

That's really cool, thanks for the update Rapid
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 06 2018 20:26 GMT
#33
On January 06 2018 18:38 rapidtransit247 wrote:
Posting a follow-up here: I met the guy from TitanEX1 today and talked with him for a while at GSL. I've known him for a while and he's a great guy who's super passionate about Starcraft. The sponsored players help test and work on their AI learning software for SC2. It's a pretty sweet deal that helps players like Leenock focus on just training for GSL.

Great to hear that this team is legit. Thanks for verifying, Rapid.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 06 2018 20:34 GMT
#34
Very nice to hear.
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
January 07 2018 05:11 GMT
#35
With an artificial intelligence startup esports team, that's exactly what I expected would be the case. Cool to hear, hopefully good things come out of it all.
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