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Update from IEM on the PC NA Qualifier situation - Page 2

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Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
December 15 2017 19:04 GMT
#21
On December 16 2017 03:41 Nerchio wrote:
2 additional spots for NA hype meanwhile EU central has 1 spot


Well let's make it a 32 player tournament and double all the slots
Really well handled by iem and a better solution than I expected.
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
December 15 2017 19:05 GMT
#22
Yay for lizard people, well solved
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
December 15 2017 19:09 GMT
#23
Ro16 will still have only 2 from NA. This is a good resolution.
starcraft2.fi
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
December 15 2017 19:16 GMT
#24
Nice solution
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
December 15 2017 19:24 GMT
#25
I appreciate them trying to accommodate everyone and being fair towards the players. Really good save by IEM, hopefully everything works out as planned moving forward.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
December 15 2017 19:28 GMT
#26
Nice save Apollo/Carmac/IEM. That's a really great solution.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
December 15 2017 19:34 GMT
#27
well done
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10103 Posts
December 15 2017 19:37 GMT
#28
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 19:39:43
December 15 2017 19:39 GMT
#29
On December 16 2017 03:58 DieuCure wrote:
4 NA, 2 KR, lol


From what I understand the actual ro16 will end up being 2 NA 2 KR anyway
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
December 15 2017 19:43 GMT
#30
Good solution thanks to Apollo I assume. Such a great guy. Missing him as a host. I wish we can have him back as a host for BlizzCon 2018.

Will see how this IEM turns out. Not a fan of country/region quota thing.
curufinwe_wins
Profile Joined August 2017
68 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 20:04:45
December 15 2017 19:55 GMT
#31
On December 16 2017 03:55 ArtyK wrote:
Was checking the bracket for EU west qualifier, then central... basically only one top EU will go to korea vs 4 NA players... doesn't sound right...


EU is heavily over-represented compared to normal competition. 5 EU + Stephano. The country manip is real (admittedly, it does give the S Europe and African qualifiers better players).


Only 2 NA players get to be part of the top 16, so the others don't get diluted as a result. But anyways, I think maybe only two qualifiers for EU would have been better with two spots each (find the 5th somehow), but that is the drawback of getting more qualifiers than any other region.

I personally think the only region that will end up being heavily over-represented is South America, but it's also pretty harsh to just go all of that continent gets one person.


All of china gets exactly one spot... you know, the biggest esports country in the world.


Top 20 WSC last year 5 NA, 9 EU, 1 SA, 1 Oceania, 2/3 China, and True.
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 20:00:25
December 15 2017 19:59 GMT
#32
On December 16 2017 04:55 curufinwe_wins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 03:55 ArtyK wrote:
Was checking the bracket for EU west qualifier, then central... basically only one top EU will go to korea vs 4 NA players... doesn't sound right...


EU is heavily over-represented compared to normal competition. 5 EU + Stephano. The country manip is real (admittedly, it does give the S Europe and African qualifiers better players).


Only 2 NA players get to be part of the top 16, so the others don't get diluted as a result. But anyways, I think maybe only two qualifiers for EU would have been better with two spots each (find the 5th somehow), but that is the drawback of getting more qualifiers than any other region.


All of china gets exactly one spot... you know, the biggest esports country in the world.


My problem is who gets to represent EU because of this, i mean, netherlands is central europe? Like i said only one top EU will be in korea. No offense to the others but 4 of our 5 best are in that central qualifier.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 15 2017 20:07 GMT
#33
On December 16 2017 04:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 03:58 DieuCure wrote:
4 NA, 2 KR, lol


From what I understand the actual ro16 will end up being 2 NA 2 KR anyway

Yeah they basically extended the NA qualifier and added an offline portion in PyeongChang
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 15 2017 20:08 GMT
#34
On December 16 2017 04:59 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 04:55 curufinwe_wins wrote:
On December 16 2017 03:55 ArtyK wrote:
Was checking the bracket for EU west qualifier, then central... basically only one top EU will go to korea vs 4 NA players... doesn't sound right...


EU is heavily over-represented compared to normal competition. 5 EU + Stephano. The country manip is real (admittedly, it does give the S Europe and African qualifiers better players).


Only 2 NA players get to be part of the top 16, so the others don't get diluted as a result. But anyways, I think maybe only two qualifiers for EU would have been better with two spots each (find the 5th somehow), but that is the drawback of getting more qualifiers than any other region.


All of china gets exactly one spot... you know, the biggest esports country in the world.


My problem is who gets to represent EU because of this, i mean, netherlands is central europe? Like i said only one top EU will be in korea. No offense to the others but 4 of our 5 best are in that central qualifier.

Yeah it should have been a combined EU qualifier, but it will be 2 top EU players. Serral and whoever wins Central.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
December 15 2017 20:11 GMT
#35
Or a global one !

But I'm happy that they thought about it
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curufinwe_wins
Profile Joined August 2017
68 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 20:16:47
December 15 2017 20:14 GMT
#36
On December 16 2017 04:59 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 04:55 curufinwe_wins wrote:
On December 16 2017 03:55 ArtyK wrote:
Was checking the bracket for EU west qualifier, then central... basically only one top EU will go to korea vs 4 NA players... doesn't sound right...


EU is heavily over-represented compared to normal competition. 5 EU + Stephano. The country manip is real (admittedly, it does give the S Europe and African qualifiers better players).


Only 2 NA players get to be part of the top 16, so the others don't get diluted as a result. But anyways, I think maybe only two qualifiers for EU would have been better with two spots each (find the 5th somehow), but that is the drawback of getting more qualifiers than any other region.


All of china gets exactly one spot... you know, the biggest esports country in the world.


My problem is who gets to represent EU because of this, i mean, netherlands is central europe? Like i said only one top EU will be in korea. No offense to the others but 4 of our 5 best are in that central qualifier.



Serral, Snute both are arguably in that top 5, both in Northern, with Serral advancing.


I'll admit that the Southern Qualifiers were particularly anemic, and the eastern was basically only Bly for any one of note. But the Western didn't look too bad either. Denver has been carving up online, even against top competition, and DNS has really been looking on point as well (not to mention ptitdrogo).


When it comes down to it... only 2 NA players will get to participate in the Ro16, which at best gives 2 of the top 5 there as well.

I'd rather have the top 4 from N+SA, but it is what it is.
Yo_Man
Profile Joined May 2017
43 Posts
December 15 2017 20:14 GMT
#37
thanks dAppoloooooo

nice; major can stop complaining
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18576 Posts
December 15 2017 20:34 GMT
#38
wow great fix
amyamyamy
Profile Joined November 2017
76 Posts
December 15 2017 21:00 GMT
#39
Beautiful resolution of an ugly mistake
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 15 2017 21:10 GMT
#40
that was the longest few hours of my life
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