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INnoVation: The Road to BlizzCon - Rank 1 - Page 4

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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2212 Posts
October 25 2017 18:45 GMT
#61
I thought that this was the best article in the series, thanks.
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MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
October 25 2017 18:51 GMT
#62
I can't believe the entitled mentality of some posters. We get free quality content to keep our passion alive, and people nitpick about details, when the body of the article itself is pretty epic.

To everyone whining, why don't you get a mirror and then post your own 1000 words essay instead.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 25 2017 18:51 GMT
#63
inno is the best player and GOAT its not really open for debate. dislike the player and will always be a fan of MVP over him, but facts are facts
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 19:32:25
October 25 2017 19:31 GMT
#64
On October 26 2017 03:51 fishjie wrote:
inno is the best player and GOAT its not really open for debate. dislike the player and will always be a fan of MVP over him, but facts are facts

I admire your ability to separate your like/dislike of a player from recognizing how skilled/unskilled they are. It's a rare talent around here.

On October 26 2017 03:51 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
I can't believe the entitled mentality of some posters. We get free quality content to keep our passion alive, and people nitpick about details, when the body of the article itself is pretty epic.

To everyone whining, why don't you get a mirror and then post your own 1000 words essay instead.

Well said.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 19:32:14
October 25 2017 19:32 GMT
#65
Double post
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ProKey
Profile Joined October 2017
3 Posts
October 25 2017 19:34 GMT
#66
No actually many people don't like the title. Seems like it was "mailed in". Please edit for the sake of blizzcon hype. As well as consistency with the other 15 previous.
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FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
October 25 2017 19:37 GMT
#67
Great article, thanks for spending the time and effort doing these!

Much as I am obviously rooting for GuMigod, I cannot deny the insane form Innovation has shown this year - I can certainly understand why he gets the #1 spot.
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curufinwe_wins
Profile Joined August 2017
68 Posts
October 25 2017 19:39 GMT
#68
On October 26 2017 01:16 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2017 01:08 curufinwe_wins wrote:
Who had a better year than Innovation? Stats.

Overall a better year in SSL. (1st and 4th vs 1 and 5th
Overall a better year in GSL (1st, top 4, top 8, vs 1st, top 8, top 16)

Similar resumes in the other offline tournaments (Inno's win in GSL v World and Gyeonggi being counteracted by Stat's second in Gyeonggi, in the IEM Worlds, and similar consistency everywhere else.)



And yet 2 trophies against 4. Also that VSL win was a good one. so 50% winrate in finals agasint 100% this year. (also since his defeat against Soulkey, INno is around 90% in final of big tournaments, you can hardly get more clutch.


Show nested quote +
On October 26 2017 01:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 25 2017 23:14 beepbeeeeeeep wrote:
75% win rate vs Z.....insane

And he still maintains that Zerg is OP. Innovation you crazy



That is just random numbers.


I know people are kinda "obsessed" with titles... but consistency is much more impressive to me than title wins.

There is a reason why Stats is first in WCS standing.

But anyways, if you want to say that only Stats could challenge the year Innovation has had, that would be a fair assessment. After those two the next best is way down the list. But I just found it rather ludicrous to claim that Innovation had far and away the best year (or even close to the most consistent year, which just isn't true).
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 25 2017 19:47 GMT
#69
On October 26 2017 04:39 curufinwe_wins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2017 01:16 Mun_Su wrote:
On October 26 2017 01:08 curufinwe_wins wrote:
Who had a better year than Innovation? Stats.

Overall a better year in SSL. (1st and 4th vs 1 and 5th
Overall a better year in GSL (1st, top 4, top 8, vs 1st, top 8, top 16)

Similar resumes in the other offline tournaments (Inno's win in GSL v World and Gyeonggi being counteracted by Stat's second in Gyeonggi, in the IEM Worlds, and similar consistency everywhere else.)



And yet 2 trophies against 4. Also that VSL win was a good one. so 50% winrate in finals agasint 100% this year. (also since his defeat against Soulkey, INno is around 90% in final of big tournaments, you can hardly get more clutch.


On October 26 2017 01:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 25 2017 23:14 beepbeeeeeeep wrote:
75% win rate vs Z.....insane

And he still maintains that Zerg is OP. Innovation you crazy



That is just random numbers.


I know people are kinda "obsessed" with titles... but consistency is much more impressive to me than title wins.

There is a reason why Stats is first in WCS standing.

But anyways, if you want to say that only Stats could challenge the year Innovation has had, that would be a fair assessment. After those two the next best is way down the list. But I just found it rather ludicrous to claim that Innovation had far and away the best year (or even close to the most consistent year, which just isn't true).

Who had the better 2017 is arguable between Stats and Inno, depending on whether you value trophies or consistency. Though, most people don't fanatically track every finish of every player and the two-second argument of "this guy has a ton of big shiny trophies" tends to be more convincing than consistent semifinals or whatever.

I think it is safe to say that Inno has gotten a lot more attention in 2017, because trophies tend to do that, and also because he is nearing GOAT status, which draws even more attention.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15878 Posts
October 25 2017 19:55 GMT
#70
On October 26 2017 04:39 curufinwe_wins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2017 01:16 Mun_Su wrote:
On October 26 2017 01:08 curufinwe_wins wrote:
Who had a better year than Innovation? Stats.

Overall a better year in SSL. (1st and 4th vs 1 and 5th
Overall a better year in GSL (1st, top 4, top 8, vs 1st, top 8, top 16)

Similar resumes in the other offline tournaments (Inno's win in GSL v World and Gyeonggi being counteracted by Stat's second in Gyeonggi, in the IEM Worlds, and similar consistency everywhere else.)



And yet 2 trophies against 4. Also that VSL win was a good one. so 50% winrate in finals agasint 100% this year. (also since his defeat against Soulkey, INno is around 90% in final of big tournaments, you can hardly get more clutch.


On October 26 2017 01:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 25 2017 23:14 beepbeeeeeeep wrote:
75% win rate vs Z.....insane

And he still maintains that Zerg is OP. Innovation you crazy



That is just random numbers.


I know people are kinda "obsessed" with titles... but consistency is much more impressive to me than title wins.

There is a reason why Stats is first in WCS standing.

But anyways, if you want to say that only Stats could challenge the year Innovation has had, that would be a fair assessment. After those two the next best is way down the list. But I just found it rather ludicrous to claim that Innovation had far and away the best year (or even close to the most consistent year, which just isn't true).

Because 2 of the tournaments Inno won didn't give WCS points.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 25 2017 20:10 GMT
#71
Road to BlizzCon 2017: INnoVation: Road to Blizzcon
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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
October 25 2017 20:16 GMT
#72
On October 26 2017 05:10 Zealously wrote:
Road to BlizzCon 2017: INnoVation: Road to Blizzcon



: Reckoning... & Knuckles, featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series etc. etc.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 20:24:02
October 25 2017 20:23 GMT
#73
On October 26 2017 05:10 Zealously wrote:
Road to BlizzCon 2017: INnoVation: Road to Blizzcon

Writers: Olli, CosmicSpiral
Editor: CosmicSpiral, Olli

This is how you get away with titles like that, guys.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 25 2017 20:35 GMT
#74
On October 26 2017 05:23 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2017 05:10 Zealously wrote:
Road to BlizzCon 2017: INnoVation: Road to Blizzcon

Writers: Olli, CosmicSpiral
Editor: CosmicSpiral, Olli

This is how you get away with titles like that, guys.


Olli actually did everything himself and CosmicSpiral only insisted on the inclusion of the word "chiaroscuro" somewhere in the text.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 25 2017 20:53 GMT
#75
On October 26 2017 05:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2017 05:23 pvsnp wrote:
On October 26 2017 05:10 Zealously wrote:
Road to BlizzCon 2017: INnoVation: Road to Blizzcon

Writers: Olli, CosmicSpiral
Editor: CosmicSpiral, Olli

This is how you get away with titles like that, guys.


Olli actually did everything himself and CosmicSpiral only insisted on the inclusion of the word "chiaroscuro" somewhere in the text.

I love that word. My favorite after "sprezzatura."
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Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
October 25 2017 21:10 GMT
#76
On October 25 2017 22:51 Makro wrote:
i just hope innovation doesn't lose in the first round, would be really awkward
Unfortunately, it's absolutely not the first time he enters a competition, just to choke hard Either that, or he goes to the end.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
October 25 2017 21:12 GMT
#77
Come on INno, time to turn to legend.
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
October 25 2017 21:26 GMT
#78
On October 26 2017 06:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Come on INno, time to turn to legend.
^^^this!!! Rooting for Inno!
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nick00bot
Profile Joined November 2010
326 Posts
October 25 2017 21:35 GMT
#79
I actually like the title, it gives the impression that all the other pieces were leading up to this, and it really does ring true in light of Inno's career. He has passed nearly every hurdle imaginable on the road to GOAT, but blizzcon is the last one in his path.

Given the post count of the haters, it honestly seems more likely that its one neurotic person creating multiple account to appear to have a consensus than it is that people are creating new accounts just to shit on the title of a post lol
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Ensiferum8
Profile Joined March 2014
Canada103 Posts
October 25 2017 21:43 GMT
#80
On October 25 2017 22:39 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2017 22:38 Ej_ wrote:
On October 25 2017 22:36 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 25 2017 22:29 Olli wrote:
On October 25 2017 22:28 Charoisaur wrote:
Why does everyone have a statement about the player in the title (like TY: Second sunrise) but not Inno?


"The Road to BlizzCon" is the title of this article. Should perhaps read first.

Road to blizzcon stands there for every article. The other ones have an additional statement about the player though.

Because it's literally what the entire article is about. Excuse me, but what the actual fuck?


People who never contributed anything in their life have nothing better to do than find anything to shit on at all. What else is new?
You obviously know that he accomplished nothing in his life, because he made a comment that you didnt like.

I dont care that you are a mod, accept criticism, ore ignore if you disagree, but there is no reason to act like a douche.

Jesus, mods can be pathetic
WCS is a shitty joke, with racist rules. Support players who deserves it instead of foreigner scrubs who dont work half as much as koreans. JUN TAEYANG IS THE BEST <3
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