EPTOn October 25 2017 23:14 beepbeeeeeeep wrote:
75% win rate vs Z.....insane
75% win rate vs Z.....insane
And he still maintains that Zerg is OP. Innovation you crazy
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
And he still maintains that Zerg is OP. Innovation you crazy | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On October 26 2017 01:08 curufinwe_wins wrote: Who had a better year than Innovation? Stats. Overall a better year in SSL. (1st and 4th vs 1 and 5th Overall a better year in GSL (1st, top 4, top 8, vs 1st, top 8, top 16) Similar resumes in the other offline tournaments (Inno's win in GSL v World and Gyeonggi being counteracted by Stat's second in Gyeonggi, in the IEM Worlds, and similar consistency everywhere else.) And yet 2 trophies against 4. Also that VSL win was a good one. so 50% winrate in finals agasint 100% this year. (also since his defeat against Soulkey, INno is around 90% in final of big tournaments, you can hardly get more clutch. On October 26 2017 01:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: And he still maintains that Zerg is OP. Innovation you crazy That is just random numbers. | ||
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frazzle
United States468 Posts
On October 26 2017 01:07 Odoakar wrote: Eh, I still think you can't compare him to Mvp. Article was nice, but has a lot of fancy words, leaves a bit of a bloated feeling...but I might be wrong, English is not my native language. Out of curiosity, what was meant by the statement ."...when you take into account the Balkanization of the international scene"...is international scene fractured and at war with each other? Is the international scene dead like the hopes and dreams of us living in Balkans? I think he means the departure of KesPa, along with a slow exodus of big name foreign teams (EG?), leaving players on their own without the old support structure of KesPa/Team life. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On October 26 2017 01:16 Mun_Su wrote: And yet 2 trophies against 4. Also that VSL win was a good one. so 50% winrate in finals agasint 100% this year. (also since his defeat against Soulkey, INno is around 90% in final of big tournaments, you can hardly get more clutch. That is just random numbers. It's his winrate across all games in 2017, straight from Aligulac! | ||
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
Going through the rough times that he did, with himself admitting he was always thinking of his accomplishments or 'legacy' (cant remember exact words on his Signature Series vid) imo led to his renaissance in 2017. He probably realized that the effort he was attempting not to waste was actually greater than he could have predicted. It's like he upgraded himself from the T-800 to the T-1000, able to mold himself into whatever he needs to be to win. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On October 26 2017 01:26 Olli wrote: It's his winrate across all games in 2017, straight from Aligulac! "That's just a number." is the best INnoquote. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On October 26 2017 01:26 Olli wrote: It's his winrate across all games in 2017, straight from Aligulac! Inno's method call to calculateWinrate (T, Z) returned 10%. Therefore, Zerg OP. | ||
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nick00bot
326 Posts
Previous articles I think have been a little overly focused on writing around a concept more than the players, so they have a lacked a bit of the historical context and style analysis that this one had. They were still good articles but just overindulgent, and that flaw that I think prevented some of the newer folks from learning about the players. This article retained a lot of the best part of this concept-centered writing style, while still providing a lot of good information about the player and doing so in a pleasing narrative fashion. Number #1 in the Power rank article power rank | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13991 Posts
On October 26 2017 01:43 nick00bot wrote: Great article! I wanna say it's best one of the series. Previous articles I think have been a little overly focused on writing around a concept more than the players, so they have a lacked a bit of the historical context and style analysis that this one had. They were still good articles but just overindulgent, and that flaw that I think prevented some of the newer folks from learning about the players. This article retained a lot of the best part of this concept-centered writing style, while still providing a lot of good information about the player and doing so in a pleasing narrative fashion. Number #1 in the Power rank article power rank Oh you are doing on of those too? | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On October 26 2017 01:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: And he still maintains that Zerg is OP. Innovation you crazy To be fair I can understand him to some extent. Any top level player will have insane winrates if they play enough, but HLB has been looking OP against bio for a while now, the mech resurgance allowed Inno and Gumi to win GSLs, but it looks like that's figured out now as well | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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jpoiv
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ProKey
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stevemachine17
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nick00bot
326 Posts
On October 26 2017 02:01 Cricketer12 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 26 2017 01:43 nick00bot wrote: Great article! I wanna say it's best one of the series. Previous articles I think have been a little overly focused on writing around a concept more than the players, so they have a lacked a bit of the historical context and style analysis that this one had. They were still good articles but just overindulgent, and that flaw that I think prevented some of the newer folks from learning about the players. This article retained a lot of the best part of this concept-centered writing style, while still providing a lot of good information about the player and doing so in a pleasing narrative fashion. Number #1 in the Power rank article power rank Oh you are doing on of those too? You know, I looked through them again and briefly considered it, but then I realized most of my favorite articles were written by the same person, and my least favorite by another, so I figured it would just be unnecessarily mean to spend the bottom 4 shitting on mostly one guy lol, especially since I don't really dislike any of the articles anyways hahaha | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On October 26 2017 02:31 ProKey wrote: Horrible title. All 16 are on the "road to blizzcon". Uncreative, would have been a letdown as the title for number 16 two weeks back. I'm so glad you made an account just to post that. Thank you so much. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On October 26 2017 03:22 Olli wrote: I'm so glad you made an account just to post that. Thank you so much. All the title criticism is actually from the same person, who really, really didn't like your choice of title and so created multiple alts to spam how much he hated it  Still, I would have preferred a subtitle myself. Anything at all, even if only for consistency's sake. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On October 26 2017 03:24 pvsnp wrote: All the title criticism is actually from the same person, who really, really didn't like your choice of title and so created multiple alts to spam how much he hated it Still, I would have preferred a subtitle myself. Anything at all, even if only for consistency's sake. Fair enough. At least with you I'm quite confident you actually read the piece and that your criticism is not for the sake of criticism. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On October 26 2017 03:27 Olli wrote: Fair enough. At least with you I'm quite confident you actually read the piece and that your criticism is not for the sake of criticism. I rather liked the piece, especially how it stuck close to Inno's career and let the narrative develop naturally from there. Some of these articles barely mention the player's actual deeds and it feels as though they are trying to cram a fabricated narrative down our throats. So, congratulations for that. Just off the top of my head, because I have a fondness for pithy titles: something simple like "The Greatest of All Time?" or "The Empty Throne" gets the message across quite clearly. Something a bit more literary, like "The Machine Who Would Be King," or "Tῷ κρατίστῳ" could work but at the risk of going over people's heads. | ||
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